I reckon you can pull your head in justarider. Obviously do not use the 'service' that has even the low fruit ignored. Then there is the strategic aspects that have been criminally missed, skyrail. Opportunities blown.
Its great to see that Gippy has not missed out on the over inflated sense of self importance.
A point of order, nothing maintains the time table on the Gippsland line.The overservicing of hamlets 5km apart with minimal patronage completely devalues the Gippsland service - many of the travellers commute to railheads from more distant towns beyond Traralgon and their journeys are unnecessarily delayed at those small places. In a more perfect world, every second local train should run express Drouin-Pakenham.
The service structure is ludicrous with almost all service stopping all stations. The fore ever dogs breakfast, after its been thrown up all over the floor.
Maybe there is a case for having some peak period trains originate at Warragul and stop everywhere?
The whole idea of regional fast rail was to facilitate speedy movement of passengers in the major regional centres to Melbourne. 15 years on, it takes longer to get to the city than it did in the mid 2000s.
Sure it would be wonderful if "my" trip from Traralgon was super fast express all the way.
Stiff sh#t for everybody else along the way, they can walk maybe? Little hamlets, pigs ar#e, they pay their fares and taxes too.
"Unneccesarily delayed" ?? How about put a number on that 10,15 minutes ?
As I said over inflated opinion of importance compared to the hundreds of thousands of metro pax with a daily commute not much better.
Gippslander is right, the service does require augmentation to have local service originate at Warragul and run the commuter service more efficiently. A local could originate at Warragul and combine with a following express at the outer suburban limit and vice versa. There is scope to service both but not every service every time.
The 'me too' aspect is the death of run-time and this incessant focus on frequency.
15 minutes you say? Twice a day, five days a week. Adds up. Not forgetting that a typical afternoon run sees average speed out to Pakenham as low as 40km/hr. Ive said before that with a clear run at the Monash emergency lane that my 1963 Fergie TRACTOR has a chance of beating a Velocity to Pakenham. How modern are we as we drive past concrete structure built with no capacity or strategic allowance for the obvious addition tracks? Just stupid.
pull head in - but then I couldn't even read the time-table that you conveniently overlook.
The discussion was about the "hamlets" and yet you bang on about Dandenong down.
Reality check -
IF the Gippy line warranted the additional $2B+ to have additional tracks on SkyRail - as per the RRL project -
then it would have similar traffic demand as Geelong + Ballarat + Bendigo.
It DOES NOT. Get over it, not enough pax in the next 30 years to come even close. Not an opportunity missed, it's wastage saved.
6 full V/Los (approx 3000 pax) in the morning peak over-taking the requirements of 30+ packed Metro (approx 40,000) - soon to be extended HCMT. That IS overblown self-importance.
I didn't say 15 minutes. I posed an unanswered question, but since you are so het up about it, some facts:
Mon-Fri UP from Traralgon to Dandenong 4:31, 5:56, 7:19 SAS = 1 hr 33, 1hr 35, 1hr 31.
Mon-Fri UP from Traralgon to Dandenong 5:26, 6:36, 7:34 limited EX = 1hr 21, 1hr 25, 1hr 35
SAS inter-peak = 1hr:30
that's approx 10 minutes difference. Tough titty, suck it up for living so far away.
BUT you could as suggested by Gippslander, just by-pass the "hamlets" of Morwell, Moe, Warragul, Drouin and run half empty - good luck with the angry mob.
Some short-starters from Warragul sounds good, BUT are there enough pax to fill it? Dubious. I don't even get how you would do an SAS in front of an EX. Wait for 2nd train to run up the backside of the front-runner ?
As for being no better than the good old days - prior RRR - then just go back to 4
trains per day (now 20), SAS @ 2hrs 09
Some people just don't know how to say thank you for what they get.