Welcome to Trump town

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
At Trump Towers had could hire and fire at will, which includes getting rid of anyone who failed to say, "Yes Mr Trump; anything you say. Mr Trump."  His colossal ego means that if you don't kiss him between the big toes, you just don't get anywhere.

You can do that when you own the business; it's a little difficult to carry the same concept into the Presidency.  For example, he has consistently failed to heed expert medical advice. Even as recently as yesterday he was bad mouthing an expert epidemiologist and, as bingley has pointed out, the death toll is 86,500 and counting.

As michaelgm has rightly said, the best thing he's done is what he hasn't done, to wit, gone to war.
Valvegear
Indeed, Don just doesn't get it, when you openly give a backhander to you're top medical official, you know that there's something wrong, Fauci gets advice from other people and he shares it with the President, if Trump doesn't want to listen, see Bingley's post.

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  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Right on cue here's all the whingers from the whinge squad crying like the little babies that they are.

I didn't even read mejhammers rant on the last page, there's no need to - I already know what it will say.

Wahhh wahhh.... Trump is still President. Waaahhhhhh....
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Right on cue here's all the whingers from the whinge squad crying like the little babies that they are.

I didn't even read mejhammers rant on the last page, there's no need to - I already know what it will say.

Wahhh wahhh.... Trump is still President. Waaahhhhhh....
don_dunstan
Yes, we clearly know that you are a little baby.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Right on cue here's all the whingers from the whinge squad crying like the little babies that they are.

I didn't even read mejhammers rant on the last page, there's no need to - I already know what it will say.

Wahhh wahhh.... Trump is still President. Waaahhhhhh....
"don_dunstan"



Fark me,  has RP hit a new low?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Don; what is it with you?  Why can't you tolerate people disliking Trump?
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Don; what is it with you?  Why can't you tolerate people disliking Trump?
Valvegear
No, Valvegear - it's the perpetual whinging about the President of the United States. It's repetitive and boring.

"He's a liar, he's got a poor character, he's two-faced". Who cares? You could be describing pretty much any of the last four or five Presidents.

And so what if he's not the most morally upstanding or ethical President ever? At least he's not promising false hope like Obama (remember that? "Change you can believe in" - what a joke that was) or dragging the USA into yet more foreign quagmires like that Clinton war-monger.

It's nearly four years since he won and the incessant whinging about the man just doesn't stop... why? Who has the energy to keep hating the leader of a foreign nation that we didn't vote for and have no control over?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Don; what is it with you?  Why can't you tolerate people disliking Trump?
No, Valvegear - it's the perpetual whinging about the President of the United States. It's repetitive and boring.

"He's a liar, he's got a poor character, he's two-faced". Who cares? You could be describing pretty much any of the last four or five Presidents.

And so what if he's not the most morally upstanding or ethical President ever? At least he's not promising false hope like Obama (remember that? "Change you can believe in" - what a joke that was) or dragging the USA into yet more foreign quagmires like that Clinton war-monger.

It's nearly four years since he won and the incessant whinging about the man just doesn't stop... why? Who has the energy to keep hating the leader of a foreign nation that we didn't vote for and have no control over?
don_dunstan
So then why does Trump needlessly attack anyone that disagrees with him? we never saw Obama doing that, Trump just behaves like a bully whenever someone dares to criticize him, even in these Coronavirus Senate hearings, there are some experts giving their testimony, if Trump doesn't like what's being said, he just lashes out at them.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Don; what is it with you?  Why can't you tolerate people disliking Trump?
No, Valvegear - it's the perpetual whinging about the President of the United States. It's repetitive and boring.

"He's a liar, he's got a poor character, he's two-faced". Who cares? You could be describing pretty much any of the last four or five Presidents.

And so what if he's not the most morally upstanding or ethical President ever? At least he's not promising false hope like Obama (remember that? "Change you can believe in" - what a joke that was) or dragging the USA into yet more foreign quagmires like that Clinton war-monger.

It's nearly four years since he won and the incessant whinging about the man just doesn't stop... why? Who has the energy to keep hating the leader of a foreign nation that we didn't vote for and have no control over?
don_dunstan
Which more than matched by your incessant bellyaching about many criticising the git, criticism of which is 100 % deserved.

"He's a liar, he's got a poor character, he's two-faced". Who cares? You could be describing pretty much any of the last four or five Presidents.

If you think that is why a lot cannot stand that man, then you are missing the point. All presidents lie from time to time, all have procrastinated, but all with the exception of Clinton are of good character. he really does not have to be the most morally upstanding president at all. All I ask that he is not a crook, and this president is a crooked twit who has filled his cabinet with racists, dishonest cronies and incompetent fools.

We can even send you video evidence, but you will dismiss it as illogical bias, because Don you have absolutely nothing positive in which to argue his case except, well he has not led the US into wars. What the last 4 or 5 presidents have done pales into absolute insignificance as to what Trump has done but hey he is your guy.  

So Obama gave false hope, true. Did not meet expectations at all, especially for the Black Community. At least you can point to one policy positive. He saved the automobile industry. And has created some sort of affordable care.

And Trump has given the US ....Well he has given the ex Grand Wizard David Duke encouragement.

Yep Clinton went into wars, got it. And Trump has condemned US Allies (The Kurds) who has helped the US offensive against ISIS, to slaughter from Turkish forces, because he loves Erdogan.



Michael
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Which more than matched by your incessant bellyaching about many criticising the git, criticism of which is 100 % deserved.

"He's a liar, he's got a poor character, he's two-faced". Who cares? You could be describing pretty much any of the last four or five Presidents.

If you think that is why a lot cannot stand that man, then you are missing the point. All presidents lie from time to time, all have procrastinated, but all with the exception of Clinton are of good character. he really does not have to be the most morally upstanding president at all. All I ask that he is not a crook, and this president is a crooked twit who has filled his cabinet with racists, dishonest cronies and incompetent fools.
mejhammers1
All that is just a matter of opinion, it really is. It comes down to a personal dislike of the man and his style - you don't like him and that's fair enough.
We can even send you video evidence, but you will dismiss it as illogical bias, because Don you have absolutely nothing positive in which to argue his case except, well he has not led the US into wars. What the last 4 or 5 presidents have done pales into absolute insignificance as to what Trump has done but hey he is your guy. So Obama gave false hope, true. Did not meet expectations at all, especially for the Black Community. At least you can point to one policy positive. He saved the automobile industry. And has created some sort of affordable care. And Trump has given the US ....Well he has given the ex Grand Wizard David Duke encouragement. Yep Clinton went into wars, got it. And Trump has condemned US Allies (The Kurds) who has helped the US offensive against ISIS, to slaughter from Turkish forces, because he loves Erdogan. Michael
mejhammers1
Yeah again, it's just all your idea of how history should be represented, comparative history. You think the United States should be ashamed of electing someone like Trump; I say they should be proud. It simply wouldn't be possible in the other competitor for world hegemony's system - if someone genocidal like Stalin or Mao got 'elected' in a dictatorship then there would be NO ESCAPING. In those places if you are a dissenter you might be up against some of the most deadly genocidal campaigns in human history ever.

An outsider from the mainstream celebrity got elected - why? Because the Demmy-crats are STUPID. That's why. And they've decided to go with "Sleepy" Joe Biden this time - why again? Electoral suicide - they may as well have thrown Crooked Hillary up again.

People like you think that the public actually deciding for themselves on the President of the United States (as opposed to institutional communism) is a bad idea.

Why?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Which more than matched by your incessant bellyaching about many criticising the git, criticism of which is 100 % deserved.

"He's a liar, he's got a poor character, he's two-faced". Who cares? You could be describing pretty much any of the last four or five Presidents.

If you think that is why a lot cannot stand that man, then you are missing the point. All presidents lie from time to time, all have procrastinated, but all with the exception of Clinton are of good character. he really does not have to be the most morally upstanding president at all. All I ask that he is not a crook, and this president is a crooked twit who has filled his cabinet with racists, dishonest cronies and incompetent fools.
All that is just a matter of opinion, it really is. It comes down to a personal dislike of the man and his style - you don't like him and that's fair enough.
We can even send you video evidence, but you will dismiss it as illogical bias, because Don you have absolutely nothing positive in which to argue his case except, well he has not led the US into wars. What the last 4 or 5 presidents have done pales into absolute insignificance as to what Trump has done but hey he is your guy. So Obama gave false hope, true. Did not meet expectations at all, especially for the Black Community. At least you can point to one policy positive. He saved the automobile industry. And has created some sort of affordable care. And Trump has given the US ....Well he has given the ex Grand Wizard David Duke encouragement. Yep Clinton went into wars, got it. And Trump has condemned US Allies (The Kurds) who has helped the US offensive against ISIS, to slaughter from Turkish forces, because he loves Erdogan. Michael
Yeah again, it's just all your idea of how history should be represented, comparative history. You think the United States should be ashamed of electing someone like Trump; I say they should be proud. It simply wouldn't be possible in the other competitor for world hegemony's system - if someone genocidal like Stalin or Mao got 'elected' in a dictatorship then there would be NO ESCAPING. In those places if you are a dissenter you might be up against some of the most deadly genocidal campaigns in human history ever.

An outsider from the mainstream celebrity got elected - why? Because the Demmy-crats are STUPID. That's why. And they've decided to go with "Sleepy" Joe Biden this time - why again? Electoral suicide - they may as well have thrown Crooked Hillary up again.

People like you think that the public actually deciding for themselves on the President of the United States (as opposed to institutional communism) is a bad idea.

Why?
don_dunstan
Yet again, you are reading into something that just isn't there Don, because you have no argument. I am just stating facts, pure and simple, we are talking about past and present US Presidents and you throw complete red herrings like Mao and Stalin.  No $hit sherlock about Mao and Stalin. Point being? Mao and Stalin is irrelevant in this conversation.

You think the United States should be ashamed of electing someone like Trump

No I do not, they are your words. I am merely pointing out that the man is a hypocritical dick that's all. Sorry that it offends you.

All that is just a matter of opinion, it really is. It comes down to a personal dislike of the man and his style

If he was just an abrasive man like Paul Keating, fair enough, but he has filled his cabinet with racists, dishonest cronies and incompetent fools. The man is pathetic and childish who cannot even bear the mildest of criticisms. Called COVID-19 a hoax, then lied about being on top of the virus and because he has been found to be so pathetic in his response and there are 86,000 dead on his watch, he is trying to disown any responsibility. That is not the actions of a leader. That is the actions of a complete a$$hole. And then you are trying to equate Obama's broken promises and uttering Change you can believe in, to that clusterf..k.  One of many. Really, have a word with yourself Don.

The man is a complete fraud. A barely awake Joe Biden would be better than that pathetic fool. And I don't care for Biden. If Biden does not have a black woman as a running mate then the Democrats are stupid.

People like you think that the public actually deciding for themselves on the President of the United States (as opposed to institutional communism) is a bad idea.

What are you on about? Now you are accusing me of not liking the idea of voting. Where did you get that idea? Nowhere have I even intimated that. Barking up the wrong tree as per usual. Just because I have criticised Trump. It is a pity that your beloved GOP are engaging in voter suppression in states such as Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc, etc . Governors such as Brian Kemp are actively purging voters off the roll.


Michael
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

I didn't realise I would spark such controversy yesterday with my post about Trump being 'different". I was asked about fake news and the only comment I would like to make about it is that any news from mainstream media is largely "cultivated". Even your ABC.

The internet is a great source of knowledge, that should allow each of us to disseminate information and create our own picture of what is real v contrived. Unfortunately, even this is no longer reliable. Useful and informative videos e.g. on YouTube are either buried, or taken down very quickly. YouTube has become a part of mainstream media.

Who controls the mainstream media? It is one large broadcast of smoke and mirrors, paid advertorial, veiled cash for comment, seldom interspersed with real stories for added plausibility.


Fake news. Switched off.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Yet again, you are reading into something that just isn't there Don, because you have no argument. I am just stating facts, pure and simple, we are talking about past and present US Presidents and you throw complete red herrings like Mao and Stalin.  No $hit sherlock about Mao and Stalin. Point being? Mao and Stalin is irrelevant in this conversation.

You think the United States should be ashamed of electing someone like Trump

No I do not, they are your words. I am merely pointing out that the man is a hypocritical dick that's all. Sorry that it offends you.

All that is just a matter of opinion, it really is. It comes down to a personal dislike of the man and his style

If he was just an abrasive man like Paul Keating, fair enough, but he has filled his cabinet with racists, dishonest cronies and incompetent fools. The man is pathetic and childish who cannot even bear the mildest of criticisms. Called COVID-19 a hoax, then lied about being on top of the virus and because he has been found to be so pathetic in his response and there are 86,000 dead on his watch, he is trying to disown any responsibility. That is not the actions of a leader. That is the actions of a complete a$$hole. And then you are trying to equate Obama's broken promises and uttering Change you can believe in, to that clusterf..k.  One of many. Really, have a word with yourself Don.

The man is a complete fraud. A barely awake Joe Biden would be better than that pathetic fool. And I don't care for Biden. If Biden does not have a black woman as a running mate then the Democrats are stupid.

People like you think that the public actually deciding for themselves on the President of the United States (as opposed to institutional communism) is a bad idea.

What are you on about? Now you are accusing me of not liking the idea of voting. Where did you get that idea? Nowhere have I even intimated that. Barking up the wrong tree as per usual. Just because I have criticised Trump. It is a pity that your beloved GOP are engaging in voter suppression in states such as Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc, etc . Governors such as Brian Kemp are actively purging voters off the roll.


Michael
mejhammers1
You didn't like who the public voted for - you clearly don't like the result of an election. I'd say that's pretty anti-democratic. Do you also hate people who voted for Trump on purpose? Seems likely to me that you do - you probably think they're deplorable just like Hillary said.

To me it's a breath of fresh air and evidence that DEMOCRACY WORKS. Hillary had the endorsement of Wall Street, she had the mainstream media, she had more money than the Republican campaign, she had oceans of celebrities declaring her moral righteousness and the fact that she was the natural heir to the throne... and what happens? People decided instead to vote for someone with no political experience whatsoever, despite being told over and over and (by people like you) that he was despicable, that you were a horrible person if you even wanted to vote for him.

This is the fundamental point that you and all the other Trump-haters still don't seem to get - you keep telling everyone how deplorable the man is (and by extension how people who voted for him are also deplorable). That just makes them want to vote for him even more.

COVID19 was a state AND federal responsibility just like it was here. Do you seriously think someone like Clinton or Obama would have done any better? You're delusional if you think that, the federal government is stymied even worse by their system than ours is here. Trying to blame the misery of COVID19 on Trump is about the lowest point you've scraped to in your pathological hatred of the man... if you want to hate someone for COVID19 then hate China, they're the ones who lied to the rest of the world about it until it was too late.

The people of the United States voted for Donald John Trump as their President and in another few months they'll do it again. None of your incessant whinging about how much you despise the man will make a fig of difference to that reality. In fact it's probably the incessant perpetually offended Trump-haters that will ensure he'll get back into office again.

You keep telling the deplorables not to vote for Trump? Then that's exactly what they'll do.

Suck it up, Michael, Trump will be President for another four years. You have four more years to perfect your facile whinging...
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

I didn't realise I would spark such controversy yesterday with my post about Trump being 'different". I was asked about fake news and the only comment I would like to make about it is that any news from mainstream media is largely "cultivated". Even your ABC.

The internet is a great source of knowledge, that should allow each of us to disseminate information and create our own picture of what is real v contrived. Unfortunately, even this is no longer reliable. Useful and informative videos e.g. on YouTube are either buried, or taken down very quickly. YouTube has become a part of mainstream media.

Who controls the mainstream media? It is one large broadcast of smoke and mirrors, paid advertorial, veiled cash for comment, seldom interspersed with real stories for added plausibility.


Fake news. Switched off.
ANR
I didn't realise I would spark such controversy yesterday with my post about Trump being 'different". I was asked about fake news and the only comment I would like to make about it is that any news from mainstream media is largely "cultivated". Even your ABC.

There is nothing wrong with being different ANR. It is the fact it he is a childish, thin-skinned, hypocritical man-baby is what I object to. Drain the Swamp and I am anti-establishment and then he hires Roger Stone, Scott Pruitt and Betsy DeVos. You could not get more swampy or establishment if you tried. Lets be honest ANR, you could not care if Trump was different. He just beats to your side of politics.

I do not like the presentation of news by the ABC on occasions either. but there is a difference between largely cultivated and telling lies. The ABC and other mainstream outlets, 98% of the time base their news on observable facts.

The internet is a great source of knowledge, that should allow each of us to disseminate information and create our own picture of what is real v contrived. Unfortunately, even this is no longer reliable. Useful and informative videos e.g. on YouTube are either buried, or taken down very quickly. YouTube has become a part of mainstream media.

That is just a poor, roundabout way of saying "Ï believe in Conspiracy Theories". The ABC and other mainstream outlets, base their news on observable facts. There is some really dangerous BS peddled by angry people on the Internet, spewing dangerous rhetoric with no basis at all. There maybe loads of opinions, but there is only one truth. And that is the problem, the footballification of politics. I do not care, he is on my side of politics. And that is why Jo Cox MP was murdered in the UK, that is why Greta Thunberg is copping vile abuse, including death threats. And that is why in the UK for instance Women are reluctant to go into to politics.

Who controls the mainstream media? It is one large broadcast of smoke and mirrors, paid advertorial, veiled cash for comment, seldom interspersed with real stories for added plausibility.

Yes the media can do with an increased diversity of ownership. Smoke and Mirrors? You support a president who is a master of that (and lies, and deceit and hypocrisy)

Ponder this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCgnvSlSoZ8

Are you one of those who James O'Brien described?

Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Yet again, you are reading into something that just isn't there Don, because you have no argument. I am just stating facts, pure and simple, we are talking about past and present US Presidents and you throw complete red herrings like Mao and Stalin.  No $hit sherlock about Mao and Stalin. Point being? Mao and Stalin is irrelevant in this conversation.

You think the United States should be ashamed of electing someone like Trump

No I do not, they are your words. I am merely pointing out that the man is a hypocritical dick that's all. Sorry that it offends you.

All that is just a matter of opinion, it really is. It comes down to a personal dislike of the man and his style

If he was just an abrasive man like Paul Keating, fair enough, but he has filled his cabinet with racists, dishonest cronies and incompetent fools. The man is pathetic and childish who cannot even bear the mildest of criticisms. Called COVID-19 a hoax, then lied about being on top of the virus and because he has been found to be so pathetic in his response and there are 86,000 dead on his watch, he is trying to disown any responsibility. That is not the actions of a leader. That is the actions of a complete a$$hole. And then you are trying to equate Obama's broken promises and uttering Change you can believe in, to that clusterf..k.  One of many. Really, have a word with yourself Don.

The man is a complete fraud. A barely awake Joe Biden would be better than that pathetic fool. And I don't care for Biden. If Biden does not have a black woman as a running mate then the Democrats are stupid.

People like you think that the public actually deciding for themselves on the President of the United States (as opposed to institutional communism) is a bad idea.

What are you on about? Now you are accusing me of not liking the idea of voting. Where did you get that idea? Nowhere have I even intimated that. Barking up the wrong tree as per usual. Just because I have criticised Trump. It is a pity that your beloved GOP are engaging in voter suppression in states such as Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc, etc . Governors such as Brian Kemp are actively purging voters off the roll.


Michael
You didn't like who the public voted for - you clearly don't like the result of an election. I'd say that's pretty anti-democratic. Do you also hate people who voted for Trump on purpose? Seems likely to me that you do - you probably think they're deplorable just like Hillary said.

To me it's a breath of fresh air and evidence that DEMOCRACY WORKS. Hillary had the endorsement of Wall Street, she had the mainstream media, she had more money than the Republican campaign, she had oceans of celebrities declaring her moral righteousness and the fact that she was the natural heir to the throne... and what happens? People decided instead to vote for someone with no political experience whatsoever, despite being told over and over and (by people like you) that he was despicable, that you were a horrible person if you even wanted to vote for him.

This is the fundamental point that you and all the other Trump-haters still don't seem to get - you keep telling everyone how deplorable the man is (and by extension how people who voted for him are also deplorable). That just makes them want to vote for him even more.

COVID19 was a state AND federal responsibility just like it was here. Do you seriously think someone like Clinton or Obama would have done any better? You're delusional if you think that, the federal government is stymied even worse by their system than ours is here. Trying to blame the misery of COVID19 on Trump is about the lowest point you've scraped to in your pathological hatred of the man... if you want to hate someone for COVID19 then hate China, they're the ones who lied to the rest of the world about it until it was too late.

The people of the United States voted for Donald John Trump as their President and in another few months they'll do it again. None of your incessant whinging about how much you despise the man will make a fig of difference to that reality. In fact it's probably the incessant perpetually offended Trump-haters that will ensure he'll get back into office again.

You keep telling the deplorables not to vote for Trump? Then that's exactly what they'll do.

Suck it up, Michael, Trump will be President for another four years. You have four more years to perfect your facile whinging...
don_dunstan
Don,  I have said I do not dislike you or any other supporters of Trump. Why would I dislike voters. I dislike Trump. Never said that everyone who voted for him was deplorable. They are your words uttered by someone who either lacks comprehension or just boneheaded. I have said on many occasions that I can understand why people voted for him. He is a disrupter, he is someone different. But despite constantly being lied to be that git, that some of his supporters are seduced by racism and lies. Because that is all he has. I have completely understand Trump won the election, he is still a tw*t.  For your constant bellyaching about any criticism whilst sometimes claiming that you do not care is utter BS Don. The fact that you cannot either offer a fig of a counter argument speaks volumes.

Yes Obama and Clinton would have done better. Definitely without a shadow of a doubt. For a start, they would not try and con the American Public stating that the virus was a hoax. A conspiracy planted by the Democrats. That statement alone makes him somewhat responsible. he can blame China all he likes, but nearly all countries dealt with the virus more successfully that the US. If he hadn't of tried to diss it off as a hoax or a conspiracy, and knuckled down and tried to deal with COVID-19 instead of making utterly stupid statements, ignoring medical experts, scoring political points and encouraging people to march to and disrupt Democratically elected state houses he might garner some sympathy. He did also remove the very agency that was set up to deal with pandemics such as this.

So what you are saying is that to deal with the lies and deceit of the Chinese Government is to Lie and Deceive the US Public. How far up your rear your head has to be not to see that is full of hypocrisy.

To me it's a breath of fresh air and evidence that DEMOCRACY WORKS. Hillary had the endorsement of Wall Street, she had the mainstream media, she had more money than the Republican campaign, she had oceans of celebrities declaring her moral righteousness and the fact that she was the natural heir to the throne... and what happens? People decided instead to vote for someone with no political experience whatsoever, despite being told over and over and (by people like you) that he was despicable.

So Trump is not beholden to Wall Street? He has an ex Wall Street man in Steve Mnuchin. So what are you going to say if  Biden wins the election? If you feel that my criticism of Trump is somewhat being anti democratic, well I cannot help you there. I just feel he is a vile git and have listed why. I am what you can call Centrist-left, but I will call out when something is wrong, like Biden's opposition to bussing. You on the other hand would support Trump if he took a crap on your dining table. Celebrities supporting Hillary is wrong, but Trump lying to the US people is OK.

It would be a nice change if you could give me a policy to support your claim that Trump is great instead parroting democracy. I have already stated that politics is geared to the rich. yeah like Hillary (who I do not like) has been the only one.

I hope for your sake Biden does not win. I would not wish any to come to you, I can just imagine your reaction.


Michael
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.

COVID19 was a state AND federal responsibility just like it was here. Do you seriously think someone like Clinton or Obama would have done any better? You're delusional if you think that, the federal government is stymied even worse by their system than ours is here. Trying to blame the misery of COVID19 on Trump is about the lowest point you've scraped to in your pathological hatred of the man... if you want to hate someone for COVID19 then hate China, they're the ones who lied to the rest of the world about it until it was too late.
don_dunstan

Obama didn't dismantle America's pandemic response systems, he actually worked on improving them after Ebola was seen to be a concern so the USA would be better prepared in the event of another disease outbreak. Trump cut all of it and look at what's since happened.

That simple fact right there makes your entire argument that Trumps' predecessors wouldn't have done any better flat out wrong, but I'm going to assume you'll come back blathering some waffle about "Obama this, the Chinese that" because Orange Man God.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
You didn't like who the public voted for - you clearly don't like the result of an election. I'd say that's pretty anti-democratic.
"don_dunstan"
Nonsense. What you're quite clearly implying is that people in Australia who voted Labor are anti-democratic because they didn't like the election result. That is arrant nonsense. To dislike an election result, but accept it without rioting, civil disobedience or an attempted coup is the very essence of democracy.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Michael, thanks for such a quick blathering tirade - it'll be easy to shoot down all of your weak arguments.

I hope for your sake Biden doesn't win.

I love it when you (and others here) ascribe emotions to me that I don't have. LOL, why would I care who wins? It isn't my country. I really don't care - none of you seem to get that I don't have an emotional stake in who is the President of the United States, but I do get sick of the constant belly-aching and facile whinging about someone on the other side of the planet that none of us voted for. You people are pathetic sooks and you can't see it because you think you have moral righteousness on your side.

You on the other hand would support Trump if he took a crap on your dining table.

Truly, you're delusional. I'll repeat it for you (again) because you obviously have problems with reading and comprehension: I DON'T CARE. I don't care about Trump, it doesn't affect me. I'm not a citizen of the United States, I didn't vote in that election - I didn't vote for Trump. I don't care! It seems that it doesn't matter how many times I repeat this I still get accused of being a Trump-lover.

I just don't hate the man like you people do, it lacks purpose and has no point.

How far up your rear your head has to be not to see that is full of hypocrisy.

Why is that your business? Why is the Trump administration your apparent number one concern? How does the Trump administration affect your everyday life so badly that you feel the need to come here and whinge about it with long tirades? And more importantly - what difference does your belly-aching make?

Yes Obama and Clinton would have done better. Definitely without a shadow of a doubt.

So you can see into alternative universes where alternative scenarios are being played out? Wow, you have super-human powers don't you.

But despite constantly being lied to be that git, that some of his supporters are seduced by racism and lies.

So you hate Trump supporters - there it is.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
You didn't like who the public voted for - you clearly don't like the result of an election. I'd say that's pretty anti-democratic.
Nonsense. What you're quite clearly implying is that people in Australia who voted Labor are anti-democratic because they didn't like the election result. That is arrant nonsense. To dislike an election result, but accept it without rioting, civil disobedience or an attempted coup is the very essence of democracy.
Valvegear
You mean like Barry Cassidy telling an ABC panel after that stonking loss 12 months ago that we should excise Queensland because they voted the wrong way?

By and large the Labor Party were a pack of sooks when they lost last year - they wanted to blame everyone but themselves.

Here's a novel idea: Take policies to the election that people can vote for.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
For someone who doesn't care, Don sure puts out a lot of verbiage and I notice that he still continues to break his own rules.

So you hate Trump supporters - there it is.
"don_dunstan"
He's still ascribing to others emotions which they may not have, but don't anyone dare to do so about our Don. Good to see that hypocrisy is alive and well.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
You mean like Barry Cassidy telling an ABC panel after that stonking loss 12 months ago that we should excise Queensland because they voted the wrong way?

By and large the Labor Party were a pack of sooks when they lost last year - they wanted to blame everyone but themselves.

Here's a novel idea: Take policies to the election that people can vote for.
"don_dunstan"
All completely irrelevant to the question of being anti-democratic, but that's ok. We're all used to you ignoring the point and going off on a tangent somewhere else. I answered your point; why can't you answer mine? ( or at least admit that your anti-democratic comment was complete tripe.)
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
You mean like Barry Cassidy telling an ABC panel after that stonking loss 12 months ago that we should excise Queensland because they voted the wrong way?

By and large the Labor Party were a pack of sooks when they lost last year - they wanted to blame everyone but themselves.

Here's a novel idea: Take policies to the election that people can vote for.
All completely irrelevant to the question of being anti-democratic, but that's ok. We're all used to you ignoring the point and going off on a tangent somewhere else. I answered your point; why can't you answer mine? ( or at least admit that your anti-democratic comment was complete tripe.)
Valvegear
You'll have better luck getting blood from a stone
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Yep only Don can counter an argument about US Presidents by talking about Mao, Stalin and Democracy. A supreme master of the art of red herrings and irrelevance.

By the way Don the reason why I think that Obama and Clinton would do better is because they are a lot smarter than that imbecile. Not too hard a conclusion to draw.


Michael
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I actually think that Trump is trying to get unelected in November, how can a man of supposed such highly intelligence come out and say such stupid and dumb things, especially during this Coronavirus Pandemic, btw, nearly 89,000 and still going Razz
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Yep only Don can counter an argument about US Presidents by talking about Mao, Stalin and Democracy. A supreme master of the art of red herrings and irrelevance.

By the way Don the reason why I think that Obama and Clinton would do better is because they are a lot smarter than that imbecile. Not too hard a conclusion to draw.


Michael
mejhammers1
Nah Michael, you just don't want to accept the fact that you complaining doesn't alter anything.

And that great mind Hillary Clinton was beaten by an imbecile? Goes to show she must be even dumber than him; and there's lots of evidence that she was. Didn't even bother to campaign in the states that turned against the Demmy-crats.

Stoopid old Hillie - thought that she was a shoo-in.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Methinks he doth complain too much; particularly for one who finds this discussion (quote) "repetitive and boring" (unquote).

Imagine how he'd go on a subject that he actually liked!

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