Andrews Government unveils $2.7 billion building blitz including road and rail upgrades

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 18 May 2020 09:21
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This is interesting on where the money will be spent

Public transport infrastructure will get a $192 million boost, including $90.5 million to upgrade and replace signalling, sleepers and ballast on regional tracks to ensure smoother commuter trips and quicker freight movement.
ALP

This adds up to $192m.  Signalling could be Bendigo?

Another $62.6 million will be spent improving the maintenance of tram and V/line rolling stock, and $23.3 million will be used to upgrade 15 railway stations and stops with new toilets, better seats and improved disability access.
Somebody

This adds up to $86m.  In total $278m.  Yes you guessed it 10% of the total amount of funds allocated at a time when the system needs much much more.


Andrews Government unveils $2.7 billion building blitz including road and rail upgrades

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  Carnot Minister for Railways

My understanding is that the NW BG lines (Sea Lake & Manangatang) need heaps of sleeper replacement, along with trying to get the Echuca line up to Class 2 standard.

More here: https://www.3aw.com.au/3s1andrews-government-to-splash-2-7b-on-projects-to-get-victoria-working/
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
The Echuca line should have been finished 2 years ago is the remaining work just sleepers?

Will the line between Echuca and Toolamba also get maintenance?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
This is interesting on where the money will be spent

Another $62.6 million will be spent improving the maintenance of tram and V/line rolling stock, and $23.3 million will be used to upgrade 15 railway stations and stops with new toilets, better seats and improved disability access.

This adds up to $86m.  In total $278m.  Yes you guessed it 10% of the total amount of funds allocated at a time when the system needs much much more.


Andrews Government unveils $2.7 billion building blitz including road and rail upgrades
bevans

I never guessed it...could you please elaborate further...

M.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Will the line between Echuca and Toolamba also get maintenance?
"NSWGR8022"
Does anybody in authority either know or care that it's needed?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The Echuca line should have been finished 2 years ago is the remaining work just sleepers?

Will the line between Echuca and Toolamba also get maintenance?
NSWGR8022
The Echuca line was meant to upgraded to Class 2 in 2019.  But apparently it was in a much worse state than they thought it was in, so it got put on the backburner.  (And rumour has it that Ballarat rail upgrade cost over-runs used up the $$)

Echuca-Toolamba will be needed in 2021 if there's a big rice crop in the Riverina this coming summer (highly likely I reckon).
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
My understanding is that the NW BG lines (Sea Lake & Manangatang) need heaps of sleeper replacement, along with trying to get the Echuca line up to Class 2 standard.

More here: https://www.3aw.com.au/3s1andrews-government-to-splash-2-7b-on-projects-to-get-victoria-working/
Carnot
Agree Carnot, would be great to get moving on the Swan Hill line.

There certainly has been some $$$ splashed around over the last few years and now this package, can't imagine don is going to be too pleased about this Razz

Another $62.6 million will be spent improving the maintenance of tram and V/line rolling stock, and $23.3 million will be used to upgrade 15 railway stations and stops with new toilets, better seats and improved disability access.

That's a bit strange, what's wrong with the Dunny Seats ?

BigShunter.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
My understanding is that the NW BG lines (Sea Lake & Manangatang) need heaps of sleeper replacement, along with trying to get the Echuca line up to Class 2 standard.

More here: https://www.3aw.com.au/3s1andrews-government-to-splash-2-7b-on-projects-to-get-victoria-working/
Carnot

Well that was an education about why I've never listened to Neil Mitchell or 3AW.

Jacinta Allan wasn't perfect either, no doubt annoyed by Mitchells condescending views. Allan said she had a long list of projects ready to go now, out in the east and Mt Alexander Rd etc. so apparently it's new money and it wasn't ALL spin....but that's not good enough for Mitchell as it's OUR taxpayer dollars being spent etc.

However with ads to start the piece and Mitchell sighing audibly into the microphone to placate the listeners no doubt. Then to quote a famous PM of a few decades ago a 'silly old bugger' most likely a conservative voter calls to have a whinge about how badly the government is handling the pandemic etc.
Fortunately most people know the Andrews government in particular, and in all cases in Australia, governmernts of both colours are doing a pretty good job of fighting this pandemic and it's because so few people have died that the whingers have started.

Perhaps some of these whingers should pay more attention to the unfolding train wrecks that are USA and Brazil and then consider themselves lucky they are in Australia...but that's unlikely.

Mike.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

My understanding is that the NW BG lines (Sea Lake & Manangatang) need heaps of sleeper replacement, along with trying to get the Echuca line up to Class 2 standard.

More here: https://www.3aw.com.au/3s1andrews-government-to-splash-2-7b-on-projects-to-get-victoria-working/
Agree Carnot, would be great to get moving on the Swan Hill line.

There certainly has been some $$$ splashed around over the last few years and now this package, can't imagine don is going to be too pleased about this Razz

Another $62.6 million will be spent improving the maintenance of tram and V/line rolling stock, and $23.3 million will be used to upgrade 15 railway stations and stops with new toilets, better seats and improved disability access.

That's a bit strange, what's wrong with the Dunny Seats ?

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Well apparently 300 km of line is going to get some work done.  As for V/line rolling stock - perhaps they're going to hang on to the H and N-sets a bit longer than originally anticipated, along with playing catch-up on V/Los?

I'm keen to see the list of railway stations needing an upgrade.  They could start with Shepparton....
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
My understanding is that the NW BG lines (Sea Lake & Manangatang) need heaps of sleeper replacement, along with trying to get the Echuca line up to Class 2 standard.

More here: https://www.3aw.com.au/3s1andrews-government-to-splash-2-7b-on-projects-to-get-victoria-working/
Carnot

Mentioned in this article:

Among those projects will be resurfacing roads, strengthening bridges, improving roads in bushfire-affected areas, regional rail maintenance, enhanced maintenance of trams and V/line trains, upgrading 15 train stations and even graffiti removal.
3AW

Roads being resurfaced am assuming this is coming down to rural roads torn up by the ever increasing cost of trucks?

More than $300 million of the overall package will go to transport projects.
3AW

$278m is allocated to rail projects it seems out of an overall $300m?
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Another $62.6 million will be spent improving the maintenance of tram and V/line rolling stock, and $23.3 million will be used to upgrade 15 railway stations and stops with new toilets, better seats and improved disability access.

That's a bit strange, what's wrong with the Dunny Seats ?

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Too many places for redbacks to hide.
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
If the predicted forecast of great rains and the bumper crop season materializes, then yes those two BG branches will need urgent work. I'm surprised they're still open, I know the Manangatang line received urgent repairs late last year. Both these lines have seen relatively constant traffic this year compared to last.
Were there any specific details on how and where the money was being spent within the system?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Peter Parker over at Melbourne On Transit emailed the Premier’s office and got some more detail on the rail upgrades. The stations are

Metropolitan stations:
  • Aircraft
  • Heathmont
  • Huntingdale
  • Anstey
  • Moonee Ponds
  • Royal Park
  • Jordanville
  • Footscray
  • South Kensington
                               
Regional Stations:
  • North Geelong
  • Kilmore East
  • Lara
  • Melton
  • North Shore
  • Broadford

Note: Melton station is a larger upgrade which will be delivered in phases to improve the customer experience following swapping of platforms as part of the Ballarat Line Upgrade  

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https://melbourneontransit.blogspot.com/2020/05/government-announces-station-upgrades.html?m=1

So that all seems like good news. Particularly Melton. As for the 300 km of track upgrades one would hope the significant sections of the Gippsland line currently running at a class below their usual specification are returned to good quality (1/2M/2 in sections).
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
It is about time North Shore was upgraded as recently discussions on RP will support.  I hope they look to completely rebuild the station including the Standard Gauge platform which is too short.

Moonee Ponds I thought was passable?
  stooge spark Chief Train Controller

Location: My House
Moonee Ponds is OK, biggest gripe is that Platform 2 is very narrow, it's very hard to walk around people on that platform.

I assume for Moonee Ponds that the toilets might get an upgrade, and there might be more shelter for Platform 2
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Footscray had several upgrades over the past 5 years with the RRL why do we need to spend more money there?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

My understanding is that the NW BG lines (Sea Lake & Manangatang) need heaps of sleeper replacement, along with trying to get the Echuca line up to Class 2 standard.

More here: https://www.3aw.com.au/3s1andrews-government-to-splash-2-7b-on-projects-to-get-victoria-working/
Agree Carnot, would be great to get moving on the Swan Hill line.

There certainly has been some $$$ splashed around over the last few years and now this package, can't imagine don is going to be too pleased about this Razz

Another $62.6 million will be spent improving the maintenance of tram and V/line rolling stock, and $23.3 million will be used to upgrade 15 railway stations and stops with new toilets, better seats and improved disability access.

That's a bit strange, what's wrong with the Dunny Seats ?

BigShunter.
Well apparently 300 km of line is going to get some work done.  As for V/line rolling stock - perhaps they're going to hang on to the H and N-sets a bit longer than originally anticipated, along with playing catch-up on V/Los?

I'm keen to see the list of railway stations needing an upgrade.  They could start with Shepparton....
Carnot
That would be terrible, because the H-Type carriages are well over 50 years old. They should be scrapped now.

Michael
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Regional Stations:
  • North Geelong
  • Kilmore East
  • Lara
  • Melton
  • North Shore
  • Broadford
potatoinmymouth
Probably Barking up the wrong tree here and splitting hairs but these station are more like outer urban stations really.

Beyond Bacchus Marsh, hmm Woodend, Kilmore your getting into the sticks.

And was it it North Shore or North Geelong they gave up renovating because as soon as they did the Crims would smash it up or flog everything.

BigShunter.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

That’s true, Shunter, but on the other hand they’re very obvious candidates for upgrade precisely because they have barely-adequate “regional” facilities serving quasi-suburban traffic.

The recent jobs at Donnybrook and Wallan are excellent examples of the kind of thing that should be done to bring the entire commuter region up to scratch over the next five years or so: improving platform accessibility, shelter areas, and ticketing facilities, and addressing any localised problems that affect train running (there it was short platforms, might be simple things elsewhere like the location of conductor assistance zones etc).
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

As for V/line rolling stock - perhaps they're going to hang on to the H and N-sets a bit longer than originally anticipated, along with playing catch-up on V/Los?


There are 9 6-car H sets in their various flavours rostered at the moment.

It’s still anticipated there will be a new WTT issued in August/September, by which time at least 5 3-car VLocity sets will have been delivered since the last WTT, for a total of 10 or more since the last WTT that increased the peak fleet requirement.

I would really be getting your photos of the H sets now because it seems extremely likely that 2020 will see some of them retired or at the very least placed on much-reduced duties.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Probably Barking up the wrong tree here and splitting hairs but these station are more like outer urban stations really.

Beyond Bacchus Marsh, hmm Woodend, Kilmore your getting into the sticks.

And was it it North Shore or North Geelong they gave up renovating because as soon as they did the Crims would smash it up or flog everything.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
It was North Shore, Shunter, as mentioned in the below Thread.

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11400282.htm

North Geelong has been on the cards for more than a decade, but nothing has come of it. kuldalai might be able to shed more light on why nothing has been done.
  Maximas Station Master

Location: Geelong
It was North Shore, Shunter, as mentioned in the below Thread.

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11400282.htm

North Geelong has been on the cards for more than a decade, but nothing has come of it. kuldalai might be able to shed more light on why nothing has been done.
Jack Le Lievre

There was a recent upgrade to fit the place out with a bike parking station, but certainly with the entire north of Geelong using that station (to avoid North Shore and particularly Corio) a more significant upgrade is needed to expand its capacity at least. For example although it has a neat little coffee stand it would have been handy some mornings if I could have had more choice than a chocolate bar or packet of chips after running out the door to catch my train. As with most of the main train stations in Geelong the car park simply isn't big enough to house the amount of people it services, perhaps with the upgrade to North Shore some of the stress on this station can be alleviated.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

A North Shore station upgrade is really a no-brainer.  It's the closest that Public transport gets to the pier where the Spirit of Tasmania will soon be berthing at.

Jacinta had a big press con this morning.  This was mentioned in the accompanying press release:
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/victorias-big-build-to-heat-up-during-winter/

"A range of track renewal and maintenance works will take place in the CBD and on the regional train network – on the Bendigo, Swan Hill and Echuca lines."
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Probably Barking up the wrong tree here and splitting hairs but these station are more like outer urban stations really.

Beyond Bacchus Marsh, hmm Woodend, Kilmore your getting into the sticks.

And was it it North Shore or North Geelong they gave up renovating because as soon as they did the Crims would smash it up or flog everything.

BigShunter.
It was North Shore, Shunter, as mentioned in the below Thread.

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11400282.htm

North Geelong has been on the cards for more than a decade, but nothing has come of it. kuldalai might be able to shed more light on why nothing has been done.
Jack Le Lievre

Jack thanks for finding this a very useful thread.

When I took the Overland in March of this year it was clear just what an inconvenience the short platform is for the SG service and this really should be addressed.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Now is the time to spend $0.5 million on North Shore.  


Just in time for The Overland to end.


Public Service mantra - upgrade before closure!

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