NSW Rail Served Dairy Thoughts

 
  noirilae Station Master

I’ve recently been looking into ways I could make a rail served dairy in a NSW country branch line setting. Using a bit of creative license I was wondering if you all could offer some thoughts on using the following walthers factory kit as a suitable building to do so.

https://www.walthers.com/factory-kit

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  M636C Minister for Railways

I’ve recently been looking into ways I could make a rail served dairy in a NSW country branch line setting. Using a bit of creative license I was wondering if you all could offer some thoughts on using the following walthers factory kit as a suitable building to do so.

https://www.walthers.com/factory-kit
noirilae
There were many variations of dairy loading points in NSW.
The Walthers kit looks suitable for one of the smaller points.
The last ones were on the Illawarra line in the late 1980s maybe early 1990s.
Most of the larger points were brick.
The smaller and older stations were wooden and not dissimilar to the Walthers kit, although I don't think the external tanks were used in NSW.

There were dairy loading points at Moss Vale, Camden, Picton, and Campbelltown that I recall and photos should be able to be found in a number of publications and websites.

Peter
  noirilae Station Master

Thanks Peter, I wasn’t sure myself on the external tanks but I may keep them anyways.

I’ve done some extensive googling and I find it hard to find anything other than photos of the main milk depots around the areas you mentioned. I did see Tumut had a more American (in my opinion) style depot (Although I believe this was a butter factory).

Any suggestions for kitbash edits would be appreciated!

it will be nice to have a destination for my SDS BMTs and future four wheel LV and MLK acquisitions.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
No need to assume all dairy companies built to the same design, remembering there were different companies / co-operatives in different regions, each with a manager that thought they were better than the competition, so maybe built structures to suit their own needs. So you do likewise with how you modify that Walthers kit to suit what you think is better than other designs.
Regarding you remarks about the external tanks; work out what purpose they would serve in real life then decide if that matches your plans.

I take it you are working on the fresh milk market. There are or were big heavy long fresh milk tank trains operating across the lower north island in NZ, so google might show the loading or unloading arrangements and factory styles.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Thanks Peter, I wasn’t sure myself on the external tanks but I may keep them anyways.

I’ve done some extensive googling and I find it hard to find anything other than photos of the main milk depots around the areas you mentioned. I did see Tumut had a more American (in my opinion) style depot (Although I believe this was a butter factory).

Any suggestions for kitbash edits would be appreciated!

it will be nice to have a destination for my SDS BMTs and future four wheel LV and MLK acquisitions.
noirilae
What you need to understand is that NSW milk depots were in many ways similar, many were built with brick others with concrete walls.  Depending on where you live, when going to google earth, you can search for those locations that had milk depots on the rail.  Some according to google earth are still there, so here are some that you could look at

North Coast & Main North. Oak factory at Muswelbrook, Singleton is gone, but Hexham still exists. NC, Dungog. Gloucester, Taree Wauchope.
Illawarra, Albian Park, Gerringong & Berri.  Bomaderry is still there but taken over by other business but the dead end siding still is in use for the freight that is busy.  Gerringong building also is still there & a co-op though right opposite the station. Albian Park is still there.

Bowral on the Main South the siding aspect and building is still there as well.

If in the Sydney area, and drive a round trip down to  Bomaderry, and look at each of the buildings, Berri is about opposite the station, you could also drive up to Bowral and have a look there, its on the down main.

More adventurous but typical of the old dairy sidings is Dungog, Gloucster and Wauchope, the latter is/was timber.  

None look like the Walthers kit and few had outside visible vats, best bet would be to look at the locations and take pics, then check the walthers range and sure you will find something, I have converted two kits for other NSW buildings. One that interested me was a Orange/citrus building.
  4309 Beginner

I’ve recently been looking into ways I could make a rail served dairy in a NSW country branch line setting. Using a bit of creative license I was wondering if you all could offer some thoughts on using the following walthers factory kit as a suitable building to do so.

https://www.walthers.com/factory-kit
noirilae
Hi Mate
If you google NSW Rail Ramble sidings its a blog and has a few photos of milk factories and bit of a story, may help.
  noirilae Station Master

Thanks Peter, I wasn’t sure myself on the external tanks but I may keep them anyways.

I’ve done some extensive googling and I find it hard to find anything other than photos of the main milk depots around the areas you mentioned. I did see Tumut had a more American (in my opinion) style depot (Although I believe this was a butter factory).

Any suggestions for kitbash edits would be appreciated!

it will be nice to have a destination for my SDS BMTs and future four wheel LV and MLK acquisitions.
What you need to understand is that NSW milk depots were in many ways similar, many were built with brick others with concrete walls.  Depending on where you live, when going to google earth, you can search for those locations that had milk depots on the rail.  Some according to google earth are still there, so here are some that you could look at

North Coast & Main North. Oak factory at Muswelbrook, Singleton is gone, but Hexham still exists. NC, Dungog. Gloucester, Taree Wauchope.
Illawarra, Albian Park, Gerringong & Berri.  Bomaderry is still there but taken over by other business but the dead end siding still is in use for the freight that is busy.  Gerringong building also is still there & a co-op though right opposite the station. Albian Park is still there.

Bowral on the Main South the siding aspect and building is still there as well.

If in the Sydney area, and drive a round trip down to  Bomaderry, and look at each of the buildings, Berri is about opposite the station, you could also drive up to Bowral and have a look there, its on the down main.

More adventurous but typical of the old dairy sidings is Dungog, Gloucster and Wauchope, the latter is/was timber.  

None look like the Walthers kit and few had outside visible vats, best bet would be to look at the locations and take pics, then check the walthers range and sure you will find something, I have converted two kits for other NSW buildings. One that interested me was a Orange/citrus building.
a6et

I'm now down the rabbit hole a bit with the New Zealand Milk trains, certainly wish it was still economically viable here in Aus on that scale!

Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to have this as close to real life operations I would need a Receiving Warehouse for the BMTs and a Dispatch Warehouse for the finished product?

a6et thanks for the other locations you've mentioned I didn't see some of them mentioned in the old Railpage forums for rail served dairy. So I'll have to download google earth and check them out! google images and maps only give you so much!

I grew up in Paterson and kicking myself I didn't take up this hobby whilst I had the chance to go to Dungog to record and photograph the remaining rail infrastructure. Hopefully once COVID settles I can convince the other half to take a road trip to Tumut or Bowral as I'm now in Canberra.

As this is my main focus for a future plank layout I think I'll have to change from what was to be a NSW country branchline inspired to a more industrious one.



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  a6et Minister for Railways

Thanks Peter, I wasn’t sure myself on the external tanks but I may keep them anyways.

I’ve done some extensive googling and I find it hard to find anything other than photos of the main milk depots around the areas you mentioned. I did see Tumut had a more American (in my opinion) style depot (Although I believe this was a butter factory).

Any suggestions for kitbash edits would be appreciated!

it will be nice to have a destination for my SDS BMTs and future four wheel LV and MLK acquisitions.
What you need to understand is that NSW milk depots were in many ways similar, many were built with brick others with concrete walls.  Depending on where you live, when going to google earth, you can search for those locations that had milk depots on the rail.  Some according to google earth are still there, so here are some that you could look at

North Coast & Main North. Oak factory at Muswelbrook, Singleton is gone, but Hexham still exists. NC, Dungog. Gloucester, Taree Wauchope.
Illawarra, Albian Park, Gerringong & Berri.  Bomaderry is still there but taken over by other business but the dead end siding still is in use for the freight that is busy.  Gerringong building also is still there & a co-op though right opposite the station. Albian Park is still there.

Bowral on the Main South the siding aspect and building is still there as well.

If in the Sydney area, and drive a round trip down to  Bomaderry, and look at each of the buildings, Berri is about opposite the station, you could also drive up to Bowral and have a look there, its on the down main.

More adventurous but typical of the old dairy sidings is Dungog, Gloucster and Wauchope, the latter is/was timber.  

None look like the Walthers kit and few had outside visible vats, best bet would be to look at the locations and take pics, then check the walthers range and sure you will find something, I have converted two kits for other NSW buildings. One that interested me was a Orange/citrus building.

I'm now down the rabbit hole a bit with the New Zealand Milk trains, certainly wish it was still economically viable here in Aus on that scale!

Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to have this as close to real life operations I would need a Receiving Warehouse for the BMTs and a Dispatch Warehouse for the finished product?

a6et thanks for the other locations you've mentioned I didn't see some of them mentioned in the old Railpage forums for rail served dairy. So I'll have to download google earth and check them out! google images and maps only give you so much!

I grew up in Paterson and kicking myself I didn't take up this hobby whilst I had the chance to go to Dungog to record and photograph the remaining rail infrastructure. Hopefully once COVID settles I can convince the other half to take a road trip to Tumut or Bowral as I'm now in Canberra.

As this is my main focus for a future plank layout I think I'll have to change from what was to be a NSW country branchline inspired to a more industrious one.

Gaz3801 on youtube used brick as well and has given me a bit of inspiration only wish I'd been a bit more patient before buying the walthers kit.
noirilae
The siding with the two oak wagons in it, really is pretty much typical of NSW milk sidings, as milk was primarily bulk and some sidings short, the sidings were not that long, Berry used to have access to the siding from both ends, the down train to Bomaderry dropped off empties at the Bomaderry end and on return with the up train which was all milk it picked up at the Sydney end of the siding, same at Albian Park, Gerringong was a jiffy shunt with the empty's though.
  sm-at-eden Station Master

The Walthers Kit is probably a good building if you are after a small dairy in the country somewhere.  I worked at the Jacaranda Dairy in Ipswich for four years, until I was made redundant caused through amalgamation with the Dairy in Caboolture.

However, here are some observations that may help you with this kit.  

I would make the exterior of the building brick, there are many sources where you can get sheets of bricks to be used for the walls.  Ask your local Hobby Shop for their assistance here, failing that, there is plenty available on Ebay.

The taller of the two chimneys would be there because this section of your installation is the Powerhouse which supplies steam, a vital commodity if the Management of your Dairy wants to keep their internal piping, milk vats and all of their milk processing processes spotlessly clean and hygienic.  Steam was used in many Dairies to also generate electricity to keep the incredibly high cost of electricity down.  Dairies use an awful lot of power!  You could add a small bunker adjacent to the entry into the Powerhouse to keep a supply of coal on hand to run the boilers used to generate the steam and also add a small portion of roadway here to permit a tip truck to be able to deliver the bulk coal used in the boilers.

The External Vats would have to be either made of, or lined with, stainless steel as all fittings, machinery etc have to be made from stainless steel to keep everything hygienic, the wooden vats could be suitably camouflaged if you painted them with Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver (from your local Hobby Shop, again) to make them look like stainless steel.

The main portion of the building could be utilised to house all of the pasteurising plant, refrigeration plant and pumping equipment needed to handle the milk in its various processes before it is finally pumped into Rail Tankers to begin its next journey.

You would have to construct a small unloading area for Road Tankers to unload milk, collected from the Dairies' Farmer Suppliers, to be transferred into the main part of the Factory, by pipeline, to be pasteurised prior to being chilled and stored in the vats until required to be loaded into Rail Milk Tankers, as required, and forwarded on to the big city/town processing factory where it is turned into packaged and flavoured milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt, powder etc.

You would also need to construct appropriate roadways and parking facilities for use by the small number of necessary workers and visitors.

All of this could have you ending up with a really super country milk receivals/basic processing/transfer depot.

I would wish you well with this project and, I assume, that many others on here would to like to see the result of your labours.  

Cheers!
  noirilae Station Master

The Walthers Kit is probably a good building if you are after a small dairy in the country somewhere.  I worked at the Jacaranda Dairy in Ipswich for four years, until I was made redundant caused through amalgamation with the Dairy in Caboolture.

However, here are some observations that may help you with this kit.  

I would make the exterior of the building brick, there are many sources where you can get sheets of bricks to be used for the walls.  Ask your local Hobby Shop for their assistance here, failing that, there is plenty available on Ebay.

The taller of the two chimneys would be there because this section of your installation is the Powerhouse which supplies steam, a vital commodity if the Management of your Dairy wants to keep their internal piping, milk vats and all of their milk processing processes spotlessly clean and hygienic.  Steam was used in many Dairies to also generate electricity to keep the incredibly high cost of electricity down.  Dairies use an awful lot of power!  You could add a small bunker adjacent to the entry into the Powerhouse to keep a supply of coal on hand to run the boilers used to generate the steam and also add a small portion of roadway here to permit a tip truck to be able to deliver the bulk coal used in the boilers.

The External Vats would have to be either made of, or lined with, stainless steel as all fittings, machinery etc have to be made from stainless steel to keep everything hygienic, the wooden vats could be suitably camouflaged if you painted them with Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver (from your local Hobby Shop, again) to make them look like stainless steel.

The main portion of the building could be utilised to house all of the pasteurising plant, refrigeration plant and pumping equipment needed to handle the milk in its various processes before it is finally pumped into Rail Tankers to begin its next journey.

You would have to construct a small unloading area for Road Tankers to unload milk, collected from the Dairies' Farmer Suppliers, to be transferred into the main part of the Factory, by pipeline, to be pasteurised prior to being chilled and stored in the vats until required to be loaded into Rail Milk Tankers, as required, and forwarded on to the big city/town processing factory where it is turned into packaged and flavoured milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt, powder etc.

You would also need to construct appropriate roadways and parking facilities for use by the small number of necessary workers and visitors.

All of this could have you ending up with a really super country milk receivals/basic processing/transfer depot.

I would wish you well with this project and, I assume, that many others on here would to like to see the result of your labours.  

Cheers!
sm-at-eden

That information was amazing and the edit suggestions really sparked an image of what it could look like.

I'll attempt to camouflage the tanks with the Tamiya As-12 or similar, but if that fails I'll just find a suitable way to wrap them. Or maybe I'll just replace them entirely.

With the powerhouse side I was thinking in addition to the bunker I will detail the inside of the power house side like this double boiler house from Anton's Trains
Double Boiler

I'll have to do some more research into suitable inspiration for the road tanker unloading area.
Maybe a small drive through style farm shed off to the side with its' own tall stainless steel tanks connected to the main building via piping.

I must stress this is a creative license build so I'm not hoping to be 100% prototypical but more something that can definitely pass as a potential NSW country dairy plant.

I'll probably make this industry the main focus, as I really do love the look of the SDS milk tankers.

Throw on maybe an A3 or A4 style station with capacity for 2-3 carriages and have a G3 goods and a loading bank to seperate it enough from the dairy. but I feel I may be trying to fit too much into what can only be a 3m max in length (not including the reversible sector plate fiddle yard)

But hey if all I can have is a small platform station and this industry so be it!
  noirilae Station Master

Anyone know of the best way to glue the paper brick texture onto the plastic?

I've thought about contact cement but this is a one shot glue with no second chances to correct before drying.
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
All I can think of is PVA
  Moses Wong Station Master

Anyone know of the best way to glue the paper brick texture onto the plastic?

I've thought about contact cement but this is a one shot glue with no second chances to correct before drying.
noirilae
Aleene's Clear Gel Tacky Glue spread thinly on the styrene.

Most craft stores like Spotlight should stock it.

Cheers
MJW
  railmod Chief Train Controller

Don't know if its been mentioned but there was also a rail served Dairy @ Windsor (just Sydney side of the station) - I think the building is still there but not sure what it used for.

Also consider a spray contact adhesive to glue the brick paper to styrene - less wrinkles but not much working time (if any) - maybe consider brick embossed styrene sheet (from Slaters, SE Finecast, Walthers etc)

Cheers Alex
  alexk Locomotive Driver

Location: Not far from Thornleigh
Have a look at this photo on the Penrith local history site showing the Nepean Dairy Co-Op. Photo is mid-way down the page but could provide some useful detail.

https://penrithhistory.com/industries/industrial-history-of-the-penrith-region/

Also, I think Byways of Steam volume 14 on the Morpeth branch may have some photos of the Bowthorne Butter & Milk Factory at Morpeth that could provide an idea of the scale of the buildings and the rail layout. The building was at the terminus of the Morpeth branch. The Bowthorne Butter Co-op was taken over by Oak since it was a fairly small co-op in the 1950's. The Camden Dairy Farmers building (on Argyle St, Camden?) was a fairly small scale building and also features in several photos. I think the building is still in-situ but repurposed now.

Hopefully that helps out a little.
  noirilae Station Master

For anyone interested in my progress....

Progress has been slow preparing all the parts so that they'll be more fitting to a NSW theme, due to the fact this kit bashing thing is new to me.

Especially utilising some techniques that'll be handy for when I endeavour to custom make some card kit structures in the future.

I've covered all the main building components in a brick texture I found on ScaleScenes website and scaled from OO to HO. The little power building which was suggested if I add a coal bunker to the side has been given a corrugated iron texture covering, that I found on an O scale Queensland card kit site and again scaled it to HO when printing.

Noting there's not really the space I will refrain from adding the boilers from Antons trains. But I'll be ordering some Milk pots and the coal bunker hopefully soon (waiting to see if my efforts are a total flop first).

I intend to also cover the main buildings roof in this corrugated iron texture.



The next step is to get some evergreen styrene strips and cover them in brick to add some depth and detail to the building. If anyone has some tips for the best size to use I'm all ears as my local hobby shop doesn't have the wealth of knowledge to offer some advice or tips as in Canberra we only have a Super Toy world since Monaro Hobbies closed up shop.

The camouflage of the wooden tanks with the bare metal spray paint was a winner! I think they're definitely passable now. I'm hoping with current progress to at least be done in the next few weeks!

But that won't include decorating the base plate to fit onto a layout as I've not yet decided on the colour of grasses etc yet.
  noirilae Station Master

I certainly do wish I went for the Walthers Orange/Citrus building kit.... It really does bare some similarities to a fair few NSW examples.

It's a shame I jumped into buying this factory kit so quickly but I'm hoping the end result will be satisfactory and at least bring me enough joy when running my BMT tankers.
  a6et Minister for Railways

I certainly do wish I went for the Walthers Orange/Citrus building kit.... It really does bare some similarities to a fair few NSW examples.

It's a shame I jumped into buying this factory kit so quickly but I'm hoping the end result will be satisfactory and at least bring me enough joy when running my BMT tankers.
noirilae
Its easy to make fundamental mistakes or wrong choices in the early stages of layout creation, I know I made quite a few and those mistakes have been altered, some successfully others? I'll leave that alone.  What I have found after the many errors and wrong purchases is that I now do not buy any items until the area on the layout is finished and in need of items to complete it, I then look at the various options as to what is most correct for the spot and cost is always a factor.

Enjoy what you are doing, and maybe you will find other items that can make up for this.

One thing I had mentioned but just to repeat is that most if not all of the dairy sidings and their buildings only had the one track going in to them, the wagons came in empty, and the tanks checked and usually washed out to ensure no impurities got into the tanks on the way.  The dairy would have pullies and a large set of heavy duty wire that was used to pull the wagons into the loading positions.  In most cases, the wagons were pushed in one end empty, and picked up loaded from the other end. If they were at a dead end siding, then the wagons often had to be re-marshalled onto the train and empties left in the siding.  Places such as Dungog, Albion Park, Berry, were had access both ends off the main lines. Bowral was similar but the empties on the down were placed on the Southern end of the siding and the pick train on the up had to cross to the Sydney end to pick up the loaded pots.
  noirilae Station Master

So here's how it's turned out so far still a ways to go and some edges to cover up... Certainly not a professional looking job but I reckon I'll be happy with the end result in the mean time.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/187292023@N07/49969118462/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/187292023@N07/49968850966/in/dateposted-public/

It still needs the awning to be glued on along with other roof aspects

I will cover the tanks soon as they're not glued in place

I've enjoyed playing around with this kit so far and learning new things to up my hobby skills for the future and I definitely wouldn't be afraid of card kits in the future as opposed to doing what I've done here which is modify a plastic kit.
  noirilae Station Master
  DJPeters Deputy Commissioner

Looks great and if in the future you want to do an upgrade on it the tanks especially use some PVC plumbing/drainage/sewerage pipes for the tanks under the end roof and glue a piece of say 40 thou sheet styrene onto the top ends of them and build a domed top to them on that piece of sheet to make a domed top for both.  Most stainless steel sheet type tanks were welded together so all you need do is then paint the tanks a silver colour. If anyone asks why a old wooden dairy has modern tanks just say to them it was upgraded and give them some plausible date that it was done.
  sm-at-eden Station Master

The Walthers Kit is probably a good building if you are after a small dairy in the country somewhere.  I worked at the Jacaranda Dairy in Ipswich for four years, until I was made redundant caused through amalgamation with the Dairy in Caboolture.

However, here are some observations that may help you with this kit.  

I would make the exterior of the building brick, there are many sources where you can get sheets of bricks to be used for the walls.  Ask your local Hobby Shop for their assistance here, failing that, there is plenty available on Ebay.

The taller of the two chimneys would be there because this section of your installation is the Powerhouse which supplies steam, a vital commodity if the Management of your Dairy wants to keep their internal piping, milk vats and all of their milk processing processes spotlessly clean and hygienic.  Steam was used in many Dairies to also generate electricity to keep the incredibly high cost of electricity down.  Dairies use an awful lot of power!  You could add a small bunker adjacent to the entry into the Powerhouse to keep a supply of coal on hand to run the boilers used to generate the steam and also add a small portion of roadway here to permit a tip truck to be able to deliver the bulk coal used in the boilers.

The External Vats would have to be either made of, or lined with, stainless steel as all fittings, machinery etc have to be made from stainless steel to keep everything hygienic, the wooden vats could be suitably camouflaged if you painted them with Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver (from your local Hobby Shop, again) to make them look like stainless steel.

The main portion of the building could be utilised to house all of the pasteurising plant, refrigeration plant and pumping equipment needed to handle the milk in its various processes before it is finally pumped into Rail Tankers to begin its next journey.

You would have to construct a small unloading area for Road Tankers to unload milk, collected from the Dairies' Farmer Suppliers, to be transferred into the main part of the Factory, by pipeline, to be pasteurised prior to being chilled and stored in the vats until required to be loaded into Rail Milk Tankers, as required, and forwarded on to the big city/town processing factory where it is turned into packaged and flavoured milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt, powder etc.

You would also need to construct appropriate roadways and parking facilities for use by the small number of necessary workers and visitors.

All of this could have you ending up with a really super country milk receivals/basic processing/transfer depot.

I would wish you well with this project and, I assume, that many others on here would to like to see the result of your labours.  

Cheers!

That information was amazing and the edit suggestions really sparked an image of what it could look like.

I'll attempt to camouflage the tanks with the Tamiya As-12 or similar, but if that fails I'll just find a suitable way to wrap them. Or maybe I'll just replace them entirely.

With the powerhouse side I was thinking in addition to the bunker I will detail the inside of the power house side like this double boiler house from Anton's Trains
Double Boiler

I'll have to do some more research into suitable inspiration for the road tanker unloading area.
Maybe a small drive through style farm shed off to the side with its' own tall stainless steel tanks connected to the main building via piping.

I must stress this is a creative license build so I'm not hoping to be 100% prototypical but more something that can definitely pass as a potential NSW country dairy plant.

I'll probably make this industry the main focus, as I really do love the look of the SDS milk tankers.

Throw on maybe an A3 or A4 style station with capacity for 2-3 carriages and have a G3 goods and a loading bank to seperate it enough from the dairy. but I feel I may be trying to fit too much into what can only be a 3m max in length (not including the reversible sector plate fiddle yard)

But hey if all I can have is a small platform station and this industry so be it!
noirilae
I have found this on Ebay, it is much cheaper that the Walthers Kit.  As far as I can see, it is an exact copy, or, perhaps, it is Walthers which is the copy:-

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HO-Gauge-Modelpower-MP465-Klassic-Pickle-Factory-1-87-Scale/324149675051?hash=item4b78d3842b:g:v4YAAOSwGdJeqNMk

I might just have to have a small dairy processing facility on my own layout.
  sm-at-eden Station Master

The Walthers Kit is probably a good building if you are after a small dairy in the country somewhere.  I worked at the Jacaranda Dairy in Ipswich for four years, until I was made redundant caused through amalgamation with the Dairy in Caboolture.

However, here are some observations that may help you with this kit.  

I would make the exterior of the building brick, there are many sources where you can get sheets of bricks to be used for the walls.  Ask your local Hobby Shop for their assistance here, failing that, there is plenty available on Ebay.

The taller of the two chimneys would be there because this section of your installation is the Powerhouse which supplies steam, a vital commodity if the Management of your Dairy wants to keep their internal piping, milk vats and all of their milk processing processes spotlessly clean and hygienic.  Steam was used in many Dairies to also generate electricity to keep the incredibly high cost of electricity down.  Dairies use an awful lot of power!  You could add a small bunker adjacent to the entry into the Powerhouse to keep a supply of coal on hand to run the boilers used to generate the steam and also add a small portion of roadway here to permit a tip truck to be able to deliver the bulk coal used in the boilers.

The External Vats would have to be either made of, or lined with, stainless steel as all fittings, machinery etc have to be made from stainless steel to keep everything hygienic, the wooden vats could be suitably camouflaged if you painted them with Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver (from your local Hobby Shop, again) to make them look like stainless steel.

The main portion of the building could be utilised to house all of the pasteurising plant, refrigeration plant and pumping equipment needed to handle the milk in its various processes before it is finally pumped into Rail Tankers to begin its next journey.

You would have to construct a small unloading area for Road Tankers to unload milk, collected from the Dairies' Farmer Suppliers, to be transferred into the main part of the Factory, by pipeline, to be pasteurised prior to being chilled and stored in the vats until required to be loaded into Rail Milk Tankers, as required, and forwarded on to the big city/town processing factory where it is turned into packaged and flavoured milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt, powder etc.

You would also need to construct appropriate roadways and parking facilities for use by the small number of necessary workers and visitors.

All of this could have you ending up with a really super country milk receivals/basic processing/transfer depot.

I would wish you well with this project and, I assume, that many others on here would to like to see the result of your labours.  

Cheers!

That information was amazing and the edit suggestions really sparked an image of what it could look like.

I'll attempt to camouflage the tanks with the Tamiya As-12 or similar, but if that fails I'll just find a suitable way to wrap them. Or maybe I'll just replace them entirely.

With the powerhouse side I was thinking in addition to the bunker I will detail the inside of the power house side like this double boiler house from Anton's Trains
Double Boiler

I'll have to do some more research into suitable inspiration for the road tanker unloading area.
Maybe a small drive through style farm shed off to the side with its' own tall stainless steel tanks connected to the main building via piping.

I must stress this is a creative license build so I'm not hoping to be 100% prototypical but more something that can definitely pass as a potential NSW country dairy plant.

I'll probably make this industry the main focus, as I really do love the look of the SDS milk tankers.

Throw on maybe an A3 or A4 style station with capacity for 2-3 carriages and have a G3 goods and a loading bank to seperate it enough from the dairy. but I feel I may be trying to fit too much into what can only be a 3m max in length (not including the reversible sector plate fiddle yard)

But hey if all I can have is a small platform station and this industry so be it!
noirilae
  noirilae Station Master

The Walthers Kit is probably a good building if you are after a small dairy in the country somewhere.  I worked at the Jacaranda Dairy in Ipswich for four years, until I was made redundant caused through amalgamation with the Dairy in Caboolture.

However, here are some observations that may help you with this kit.  

I would make the exterior of the building brick, there are many sources where you can get sheets of bricks to be used for the walls.  Ask your local Hobby Shop for their assistance here, failing that, there is plenty available on Ebay.

The taller of the two chimneys would be there because this section of your installation is the Powerhouse which supplies steam, a vital commodity if the Management of your Dairy wants to keep their internal piping, milk vats and all of their milk processing processes spotlessly clean and hygienic.  Steam was used in many Dairies to also generate electricity to keep the incredibly high cost of electricity down.  Dairies use an awful lot of power!  You could add a small bunker adjacent to the entry into the Powerhouse to keep a supply of coal on hand to run the boilers used to generate the steam and also add a small portion of roadway here to permit a tip truck to be able to deliver the bulk coal used in the boilers.

The External Vats would have to be either made of, or lined with, stainless steel as all fittings, machinery etc have to be made from stainless steel to keep everything hygienic, the wooden vats could be suitably camouflaged if you painted them with Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver (from your local Hobby Shop, again) to make them look like stainless steel.

The main portion of the building could be utilised to house all of the pasteurising plant, refrigeration plant and pumping equipment needed to handle the milk in its various processes before it is finally pumped into Rail Tankers to begin its next journey.

You would have to construct a small unloading area for Road Tankers to unload milk, collected from the Dairies' Farmer Suppliers, to be transferred into the main part of the Factory, by pipeline, to be pasteurised prior to being chilled and stored in the vats until required to be loaded into Rail Milk Tankers, as required, and forwarded on to the big city/town processing factory where it is turned into packaged and flavoured milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt, powder etc.

You would also need to construct appropriate roadways and parking facilities for use by the small number of necessary workers and visitors.

All of this could have you ending up with a really super country milk receivals/basic processing/transfer depot.

I would wish you well with this project and, I assume, that many others on here would to like to see the result of your labours.  

Cheers!

That information was amazing and the edit suggestions really sparked an image of what it could look like.

I'll attempt to camouflage the tanks with the Tamiya As-12 or similar, but if that fails I'll just find a suitable way to wrap them. Or maybe I'll just replace them entirely.

With the powerhouse side I was thinking in addition to the bunker I will detail the inside of the power house side like this double boiler house from Anton's Trains
Double Boiler

I'll have to do some more research into suitable inspiration for the road tanker unloading area.
Maybe a small drive through style farm shed off to the side with its' own tall stainless steel tanks connected to the main building via piping.

I must stress this is a creative license build so I'm not hoping to be 100% prototypical but more something that can definitely pass as a potential NSW country dairy plant.

I'll probably make this industry the main focus, as I really do love the look of the SDS milk tankers.

Throw on maybe an A3 or A4 style station with capacity for 2-3 carriages and have a G3 goods and a loading bank to seperate it enough from the dairy. but I feel I may be trying to fit too much into what can only be a 3m max in length (not including the reversible sector plate fiddle yard)

But hey if all I can have is a small platform station and this industry so be it!
I have found this on Ebay, it is much cheaper that the Walthers Kit.  As far as I can see, it is an exact copy, or, perhaps, it is Walthers which is the copy:-

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HO-Gauge-Modelpower-MP465-Klassic-Pickle-Factory-1-87-Scale/324149675051?hash=item4b78d3842b:g:v4YAAOSwGdJeqNMk

I might just have to have a small dairy processing facility on my own layout.
sm-at-eden

Wow that is identical I reckon the Walthers is probably the copy!

Also just incase you're interested Hobbyrama is where I bought my kit from and with postage isn't much more expensive than that eBay kit, if not cheaper if they have a sale on.

http://www.hobbyrama.com.au/Trainline-HO-Factory-Plastic-Kit-931-917-WAL931-917-654998/

If you do buy it post some pictures here!
I'd certainly be keen to see your version all done and on your layout!
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
I have found this on Ebay, it is much cheaper that the Walthers Kit.  As far as I can see, it is an exact copy, or, perhaps, it is Walthers which is the copy:-

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HO-Gauge-Modelpower-MP465-Klassic-Pickle-Factory-1-87-Scale/324149675051?hash=item4b78d3842b:g:v4YAAOSwGdJeqNMk





Wow that is identical I reckon the Walthers is probably the copy!
noirilae

OR......

Maybe Model Power has gone out of business and Walthers acquired the rights to that kit or perhaps the entire Business.

(Walthers have acquired a number of businesses over the years.....)

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