T6 Carlingford Line closure for Parramatta Light Rail

 
  viaprojects Train Controller

I'm pretty sure Rosehill's Foorbridge is heritage listed as well, but I'm not too sure if it'll be retained or not: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=4801762
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should stay - all up to the metro project to what happens to Rosehill station etc ...

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  DCook Train Controller

Location: The standard state
I'm pretty sure Rosehill's Foorbridge is heritage listed as well, but I'm not too sure if it'll be retained or not: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=4801762



should stay - all up to the metro project to what happens to Rosehill station etc ...
viaprojects
From what I understand Rosehill will be completely demolished as the plan to have a metro station there was removed recently
  C3765 Train Controller

Update-May 2020 Rydalmere station is confirmed to have be demolished, Telopea has reportedly been demolished, work has started on preparing Carlingford and Camellia for demolition, the Sandown line has been completely removed and Rosehill is set to be demolished in the near future although no work has been undertaken as of yet The only remnants of the line that will be left are Dundas station, Rydalmere bridge and Clyde platform 1
DCook

Corridor - Track/overhead wiring removed except between the Clyde end of Rosehill and Parramatta Rd, earthworks currently being carried out
Parramatta Road Crossing - Partly removed
Rosehill - Traffic Hut will be removed
Camellia - Demolished (Not sure if cleared)
Rydalmere - Completely gone
Dundas - Not much has happened
Telopea - Completely gone
Carlingford - Demolished, clearing of site to commence soon (removal of rubble, etc)
  Transtopic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney
As the level crossing at Parramatta Rd is now being removed and part of the corridor being used to access the metro service and maintenance centre, that would rule out any possibility of a new freight line being built to the south of the racecourse to service the remaining industrial area as proposed under the original Camellia Precinct plan.  In the light of severe contamination, which would be costly to remediate, future plans for the whole of the Camellia Precinct will have to be re-evaluated.
  viaprojects Train Controller

As the level crossing at Parramatta Rd is now being removed and part of the corridor being used to access the metro service and maintenance centre, .
"Transtopic"


wentworth st is posted ..as it one of three existing roads to the planned complex ..  ie don't need to build a new driveway when one is in place ..
  Transtopic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney
As the level crossing at Parramatta Rd is now being removed and part of the corridor being used to access the metro service and maintenance centre, .


wentworth st is posted ..as it one of three existing roads to the planned complex ..  ie don't need to build a new driveway when one is in place ..
viaprojects
I wasn't referring to road access, but to a proposed new freight line which was to branch from the existing line to the industrial area south of Rosehill Gardens Racecourse, effectively replacing the Sandown branch.  It would still have required the retention of the Parramatta Rd level crossing, which is now being removed.

My reference to access to the metro service and maintenance centre was in respect of the use of the remnant of the existing line for the metro trains to gain access from Metro West.
  viaprojects Train Controller

I wasn't referring to road access, but to a proposed new freight line which was to branch from the existing line to the industrial area south of Rosehill Gardens Racecourse, effectively replacing the Sandown branch.  It would still have required the retention of the Parramatta Rd level crossing, which is now being removed.

My reference to access to the metro service and maintenance centre was in respect of the use of the remnant of the existing line for the metro trains to gain access from Metro West.
"Transtopic"



think you have mess up with projects ...

Parramatta light rail is  Sandown line including camellia to Carlingford ..

Western metro is south of Camellia including Rosehill station to the area of the speedway..

AFIK - the was old plans for a freight project at the speedway area but it died due to issues about the road crossing ...  

at the current time the land north of the crossing should be a stock pile area and the crossing a construction zone for the rest of the week..
  Transtopic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I wasn't referring to road access, but to a proposed new freight line which was to branch from the existing line to the industrial area south of Rosehill Gardens Racecourse, effectively replacing the Sandown branch.  It would still have required the retention of the Parramatta Rd level crossing, which is now being removed.

My reference to access to the metro service and maintenance centre was in respect of the use of the remnant of the existing line for the metro trains to gain access from Metro West.



think you have mess up with projects ...

Parramatta light rail is  Sandown line including camellia to Carlingford ..

Western metro is south of Camellia including Rosehill station to the area of the speedway..

AFIK - the was old plans for a freight project at the speedway area but it died due to issues about the road crossing ...  

at the current time the land north of the crossing should be a stock pile area and the crossing a construction zone for the rest of the week..
viaprojects
I'm sorry, but you're the one who is "messing up with projects" as you put it.  You obviously haven't understood a word I've said.

The Parramatta Light Rail is only using that part of the former Sandown line to gain access to its stabling and maintenance centre.  The rest of the route to Carlingford is within the existing Carlingford Line rail corridor.

You're quite correct, the Western Metro will connect via tunnel with the existing Carlingford Line south of Camellia to gain access to the proposed speedway maintenance centre, which is what I said.

The formerly proposed freight line which I referred to was to branch from the Carlingford Line to run to the south of the racecourse, but that is obviously no longer feasible since part of the route is to be used for the metro access to its maintenance centre and the Parramatta Rd level crossing has closed.  I wasn't suggesting that it would use the Sandown line.
  viaprojects Train Controller


The Parramatta Light Rail is only using that part of the former Sandown line to gain access to its stabling and maintenance centre.  The rest of the route to Carlingford is within the existing Carlingford Line rail corridor.
"Transtopic"


all of the Sandown line is going - should be fenced off  - per ( PLR ) - http://www.parramattalightrail.nsw.gov.au/library/notifications



You're quite correct, the Western Metro will connect via tunnel with the existing Carlingford Line south of Camellia to gain access to the proposed speedway maintenance centre, which is what I said.

The formerly proposed freight line which I referred to was to branch from the Carlingford Line to run to the south of the racecourse, but that is obviously no longer feasible since part of the route is to be used for the metro access to its maintenance centre and the Parramatta Rd level crossing has closed.  I wasn't suggesting that it would use the Sandown line.
"Transtopic"


the speedway is south of the race course ( metro ) .. https://v2.communityanalytics.com.au/tfnsw/sydmetrowest/map
  C3765 Train Controller

So I guess there won’t be a need to demolish Rosehill Racecourse Station as the Metro would simply use the existing alignment through the station and the heritage listed footbridge could come in handy to those who would like to access to racecourse. All they would have to do is block off platform 1 and install a fence along the length of the platform 2 in order to prevent people from falling. I think platform 1 could be demolished but platform 2 should definitely stay for obvious reasons.
  DCook Train Controller

Location: The standard state
So I guess there won’t be a need to demolish Rosehill Racecourse Station as the Metro would simply use the existing alignment through the station and the heritage listed footbridge could come in handy to those who would like to access to racecourse. All they would have to do is block off platform 1 and install a fence along the length of the platform 2 in order to prevent people from falling. I think platform 1 could be demolished but platform 2 should definitely stay for obvious reasons.
C3765
Rosehill station will be demolished at some point soon, the planned metro station was cancelled recently, either way that part would be underground, and I believe the footbridge may be moved elsewhere, if not then it will be demolished
  C3765 Train Controller


Rosehill station will be demolished at some point soon, the planned metro station was cancelled recently, either way that part would be underground, and I believe the footbridge may be moved elsewhere, if not then it will be demolished.
DCook
Do you know why they are going to demolish it? The Metro is supposedly going to use the existing alignment to get to the maintenance depot so couldn’t they just leave it as is and add minor safety precautions. The people who want to get to the racecourse are going to need to cross the rail line anyway so why not save money, time and heritage as well as minimise disruptions by not demolishing and rebuilding an already functional entrance to the racecourse. I know it wasn’t your decision but judging from the information on this thread it doesn’t really make sense to demolish it.

Edit: Also, I don’t remember any plans for a metro station at Rosehill. Did you mean Rydalmere?
  Transtopic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney

The Parramatta Light Rail is only using that part of the former Sandown line to gain access to its stabling and maintenance centre.  The rest of the route to Carlingford is within the existing Carlingford Line rail corridor.

all of the Sandown line is going - should be fenced off  - per ( PLR ) - http://www.parramattalightrail.nsw.gov.au/library/notifications



You're quite correct, the Western Metro will connect via tunnel with the existing Carlingford Line south of Camellia to gain access to the proposed speedway maintenance centre, which is what I said.

The formerly proposed freight line which I referred to was to branch from the Carlingford Line to run to the south of the racecourse, but that is obviously no longer feasible since part of the route is to be used for the metro access to its maintenance centre and the Parramatta Rd level crossing has closed.  I wasn't suggesting that it would use the Sandown line.

the speedway is south of the race course ( metro ) .. https://v2.communityanalytics.com.au/tfnsw/sydmetrowest/map
viaprojects
Not all of the Sandown Line corridor is going.  As I said, part of the corridor is to be used to gain access from Camellia to the stabling and maintenance centre on Grand Ave immediately to the east of the racecourse.  The rest of the line is closed.  Have another look at the map.

I know the speedway is south of the racecourse and I never said otherwise.  So what's your point?
  DCook Train Controller

Location: The standard state

The Parramatta Light Rail is only using that part of the former Sandown line to gain access to its stabling and maintenance centre.  The rest of the route to Carlingford is within the existing Carlingford Line rail corridor.

all of the Sandown line is going - should be fenced off  - per ( PLR ) - http://www.parramattalightrail.nsw.gov.au/library/notifications



You're quite correct, the Western Metro will connect via tunnel with the existing Carlingford Line south of Camellia to gain access to the proposed speedway maintenance centre, which is what I said.

The formerly proposed freight line which I referred to was to branch from the Carlingford Line to run to the south of the racecourse, but that is obviously no longer feasible since part of the route is to be used for the metro access to its maintenance centre and the Parramatta Rd level crossing has closed.  I wasn't suggesting that it would use the Sandown line.

the speedway is south of the race course ( metro ) .. https://v2.communityanalytics.com.au/tfnsw/sydmetrowest/mapNot all of the Sandown Line corridor is going.  As I said, part of the corridor is to be used to gain access from Camellia to the stabling and maintenance centre on Grand Ave immediately to the east of the racecourse.  The rest of the line is closed.  Have another look at the map.

I know the speedway is south of the racecourse and I never said otherwise.  So what's your point?
Transtopic
All of the Sandown line is gone, look at some of these pictures
https://medium.com/@brenden.wood/sydneys-newest-ghost-train-platforms-cdeabba97da
  C3765 Train Controller

There is only one picture showing the current state of the Sandown Line on the article you have provided and it only shows the short section closest the station. That is not ALL of the Sandown Line. Some sections of the Sandown Line still remain for now.

Also, the source you have posted assumes that the Rosehill platforms will be demolished. They refer to this source which does not mention anything about the Rosehill platforms. Although you may be correct, you cannot be so sure.
Supporting services and Infrastructure
A stabling and maintenance facility is proposed to be located in the Clyde and Rosehill industrial estate bounded by James Ruse Drive, Western Motorway (the M4), Unwin Street and Shirley Street. Inside the facility, a traction substation would provide power to the metro line and a water treatment plant would treat and recycle all wastewater from the tunnels, stations and underground facilities. The facility would also house offices, parking and storage.
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