Oaklands line re-activation

 
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Wasent aware it had been deactivated, but with little to no grain for a while in that area its no surprise.

ARTC via their facebook have announced re-activation of the line to Oaklands


Train services to resume on Benalla to Oaklands line. Our Benalla to Oaklands rail line extending across the Victorian-NSW border is set to re-open to support local farmers. For your safety, we remind road users and pedestrians to look out for trains and follow the road rules when crossing the railway line, which means coming to a complete stop, looking and listening for trains and only crossing when it’s safe to do so. For more information about ARTC and our network, please visit:
ARTC


https://www.facebook.com/australianrailtrackcorporation/posts/1709304559220956

Plan to have a look up that way over the coming week, assuming we don't get locked down again. Suspect the line is in a pretty poor state and will need a good deal of work in parts to bring it up to scratch. Anyone been poking about that way of late and can report of the track condition? The track north of Yarawonga was always in the worst state, with the latest WON having a good chunk of the line with 20 kph speed limit, admittedly with a note suggesting that will be lifted 30/6

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  Carnot Minister for Railways

It's already just had a fair bit of work done to it. Glad to hear it's reopening. It'll be needed a lot for the coming harvest.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
It's already just had a fair bit of work done to it. Glad to hear it's reopening. It'll be needed a lot for the coming harvest.
Carnot
That's good to hear. Whenever I've been up there chasing trains, its always a worry listing to the track and sleepers complaining under the weight of even a T class, and if I'm going to be unfortunate to capture a major derailment. Always keep my eyes out for broken rails after a train has passed in that country.
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
There's a track inspection vehicle going to Oaklands starting in Benalla tomorrow.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There's a track inspection vehicle going to Oaklands starting in Benalla tomorrow.
Fatty

Any ideas on first train as I will be in the area over the weekend
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
No, I've only seen train notices for the rail inspection vehicle. I'm tipping there won't be any trains until the ultrasonic testing its doing is complete.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
There's a track inspection vehicle going to Oaklands starting in Benalla tomorrow.
Fatty
guessing its the hi-rail truck making the trip rather than somthing like the AK Cars? not sure where they are these days.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Thanks for the post Galron, I'm in the same basket, was unaware the line was not active. You could nearly say ARTC are being proactive in giving the line a freshen up, in readiness for the harvest.

Just a recap, GrainCoprp & GrainFlow have quite substantial recieval sites at Oaklands, the GrainCorp site is listed as a Primary site and GrainFlow is on a par with the site at Dimboola, two of their largest. Can't exactly remeber I think Dimboola may have a slightly more storage.
So I would expect if both the sites at Oaklands where close to capacity, there would be 3 - 400,000 tonnes of grain. Well worth having a decent line to shift the grain.

As Carnot has alluded too, the Riverina and right up through Central NSW has had a terrific start to the cropping season, as has the majority of Victoria, so it can, at this stage look forward or at least, prepare for a rather large harvest.
Also, Carnot could you elaborate on what work has been done on the line ?

BigShunter.

while i'm on my speaking platform, the Oaklands branch is Another substantial grain line, that could well do with a systematic up-grade to low profile concrete sleepers, suitable rail, for a 23tal and 80kph running speed, both up & down directions and dare Isay it again 60 wagon consit's, please !
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Yep, hi-rail.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
OT slightly what about the line from Barnes to the west to Wakool which also has several 100,000's of tonnes of grain?
  david harvey Chief Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale
Its interesting  to read the forecasts and comments of the arm chair lobby (no offence intended). Everybody is getting excited of the possibility of a train on the Oaklands line. I believe  that the Portland line received its first grain train in two years, now the attention is on the Oaklands line that hasn't seen a train since ???? who nose when. It wasn't so many years ago passenger trains were being cancelled and their crews were being roosted on wheat trains at Ararat .The Portland Line was chock O block with wheat trains ,  same goes for the North East Line and the OakLands Line. We cant go back to 4 wheeled wagons and canvas covers, Privatisation is here to stay.Years ago we had dozens of grain trains to photograph, chase,hug or just watch,  so when the private company want to run a grain train, the grape vine seems to get so excited its more like a celebration.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic

while i'm on my speaking platform, the Oaklands branch is Another substantial grain line, that could well do with a systematic up-grade to low profile concrete sleepers, suitable rail, for a 23tal and 80kph running speed, both up & down directions and dare Isay it again 60 wagon consit's, please !
BigShunter
very much agreed. Another nearby line currently closed is the Dookie line that would easily come under the same description. 120,000 tonnes of storage at least there as best as i can find quickly. i have recollections of the actual number being much more than that (possibly 4 or 5 times), but cant find it specifically.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
OT slightly what about the line from Barnes to the west to Wakool which also has several 100,000's of tonnes of grain?
bevans
I suspect that if the line was re-activated and maintained it would be used. those freight lines should be run on a full cost recovery basis. Problems arise where the access charges are not put back into the lines upkeep, but into "general revenue", and then we get into a situation like now where the line probably needs a full rebuild, its to expensive for the consumers to pay for, and road wins. Government needs to put the infrastructure in, and the users pay for the upkeep.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.

while i'm on my speaking platform, the Oaklands branch is Another substantial grain line, that could well do with a systematic up-grade to low profile concrete sleepers, suitable rail, for a 23tal and 80kph running speed, both up & down directions and dare Isay it again 60 wagon consit's, please !very much agreed. Another nearby line currently closed is the Dookie line that would easily come under the same description. 120,000 tonnes of storage at least there as best as i can find quickly. i have recollections of the actual number being much more than that (possibly 4 or 5 times), but cant find it specifically.
Galron
And when I say, systematic, I'm thinking ( starting to foam a fair bit Wink ) if GrainCorp/GrainFlow swilled in half a $mill between them to at least pull the track speed up to at least something respectable, even 60 - 70kph would be a good start.

The Dookie situation is a Balls Up, about 5 years ago when GrainCorp was closing it's smaller sites and up grading some to larger sites, which Dookie was going to be a large 1, they wanted the line reconnected and even put $$$ on the table to do so and zip zilch happened, no movement from the Gov't. GrainCorp also swilled $$$ for the Murrayville line and up grades, so they are, at least willing to put their hand in their pocket for improved infrastructure.

BigShunter.
  KiwiTiger12 Beginner

There's a track inspection vehicle going to Oaklands starting in Benalla tomorrow.
guessing its the hi-rail truck making the trip rather than somthing like the AK Cars? not sure where they are these days.
Galron

I was in Yarrawonga a fortnight ago and noticed a hi-rail vehicle crossing the rail bridge at Yarrawonga. The line through Mulwala appears to my untrained eye as rather bumpy through the sandy parts by the golf course.

Cheers
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Its interesting  to read the forecasts and comments of the arm chair lobby (no offence intended). Everybody is getting excited of the possibility of a train on the Oaklands line. I believe  that the Portland line received its first grain train in two years, now the attention is on the Oaklands line that hasn't seen a train since ???? who nose when. It wasn't so many years ago passenger trains were being cancelled and their crews were being roosted on wheat trains at Ararat .The Portland Line was chock O block with wheat trains ,  same goes for the North East Line and the OakLands Line. We cant go back to 4 wheeled wagons and canvas covers, Privatisation is here to stay.Years ago we had dozens of grain trains to photograph, chase,hug or just watch,  so when the private company want to run a grain train, the grape vine seems to get so excited its more like a celebration.
david harvey
We may have got rid of the 4 wheeled wagons and canvas tarps but not a lot else has improved, especially the condition of line.

25kph line speed, 19tal doesn't scream productive use of equipment, time management and efficient movement of goods in 2020.

BigShunter.
  damo64 Beginner

OT slightly what about the line from Barnes to the west to Wakool which also has several 100,000's of tonnes of grain?
bevans
Well the rail inspection had better be undertaken by a hi-rail as it will have to put its wheels down to get across the 50m gap in the rails at the Barham-Deni Rd crossing. Junction signalling removed at Barnes, so not much prospect of trains any time soon.
Once again, you seem to have Wakool mixed up with the larger storages at Moulamein and Burraboi. At the moment I would think there is little grain at any storage given the poor seasons of 2018 and 2019. The '100,000 tonnes' is a dream of the days gone by when water was plentiful. A lot of water has been sold out of the district and so potential production is reduced. Low/no allocation has seen low production and even if we get good allocations next season, I bet it will go towards rice.
Damian
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Is Oaklands the only location on the line to load grain on rail? Is Yarrawonga still used?
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Is Oaklands the only location on the line to load grain on rail? Is Yarrawonga still used?
Gman_86
i belive when the line last was in use, Yarrawonga was also used for loading, and may have even been loaded out of most recently
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

I seem to recall a grain train loading in yarrawonga within the last 12 months, other than the  AK Test train the only vehicles that have been seen are the Hi-rail inspection cars.
  steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wodonga, VIC
OT slightly what about the line from Barnes to the west to Wakool which also has several 100,000's of tonnes of grain?
Well the rail inspection had better be undertaken by a hi-rail as it will have to put its wheels down to get across the 50m gap in the rails at the Barham-Deni Rd crossing. Junction signalling removed at Barnes, so not much prospect of trains any time soon.
Once again, you seem to have Wakool mixed up with the larger storages at Moulamein and Burraboi. At the moment I would think there is little grain at any storage given the poor seasons of 2018 and 2019. The '100,000 tonnes' is a dream of the days gone by when water was plentiful. A lot of water has been sold out of the district and so potential production is reduced. Low/no allocation has seen low production and even if we get good allocations next season, I bet it will go towards rice.
Damian
amo64
The points have also been removed at Barnes.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Doesn't vline/victrack do a stirling job.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Doesn't vline/victrack do a stirling job.
bevans
You may be partially right, why disconnect the track but the line isn't being used, so what difference does it make.

Yes at times there has been a mountain of grain at Burraboi but where is the grains destination ? I think there's a number of feed lots in the area, how much grain goes  to the PoM. Knowing where the majority of the grain goes first would be a good idea before getting all steamed up.

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Doesn't vline/victrack do a stirling job.
You may be partially right, why disconnect the track but the line isn't being used, so what difference does it make.

Yes at times there has been a mountain of grain at Burraboi but where is the grains destination ? I think there's a number of feed lots in the area, how much grain goes  to the PoM. Knowing where the majority of the grain goes first would be a good idea before getting all steamed up.
BigShunter

The grain goes to the Port for export according to the local council which I spoke to last year. They have been highly frustrated trying to deal with the government on rail access.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Dumb question incoming.
When did the Oaklands line close in the first place?

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