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  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Anyway back to politics - did anyone see the rumor on News.com.au that Mathias Corrman is set to quit after the Eden-Monaro by-election tomorrow?
To quote Sir Humphrey, "Well let's not worry about it until it becomes something more than a rumour."
Valvegear
Why wouldn’t Aussie Arnie go?
Networking complete, cushy job lined up.
Grifting exhausted. Parliamentary pension.
Scrutiny from a potential federal ICAC to be avoided.
And the upcoming budget, it’s all in the timing.

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  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Anyway back to politics - did anyone see the rumor on News.com.au that Mathias Corrman is set to quit after the Eden-Monaro by-election tomorrow?
To quote Sir Humphrey, "Well let's not worry about it until it becomes something more than a rumour."
Why wouldn’t Aussie Arnie go?
Networking complete, cushy job lined up.
Grifting exhausted. Parliamentary pension.
Scrutiny from a potential federal ICAC to be avoided.
And the upcoming budget, it’s all in the timing.
michaelgm
Like Christopher Pyne, why hang around making a paltry $350,000 a year with allowances when you can make the really big money in the private sector advising them on how best to rip off the government?
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The Eden-Monaro by-election has reached the point where Antony Green would be calling it for the ALP to hold (with a positive swing in the order of +2%) if it were a general election, but he doesn't have that confidence with the pre-poll voting centres not having returned any results yet.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Looking at the Eden-Monaro by election numbers, it's a tight race, so far the ALP are at 36.2, the LNP are 35.3.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The two candidate preferred is the number that counts, and that is 52.9 / 47.1 at the moment.

ALP getting a positive swing despite losing a very high profile MP (Mike Kelly, hope his recovery from illness goes well) is a massive result. It's good news for the ALP, as it shows the 2022 election will be winnable if they get a more popular leader than Albanese - though I expect there will be a major correction to the preferred PM poll results once politics as usual resumes and Morrison has to start doing the job instead of just taking credit for the work of the state premiers.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The two candidate preferred is the number that counts, and that is 52.9 / 47.1 at the moment.

ALP getting a positive swing despite losing a very high profile MP (Mike Kelly, hope his recovery from illness goes well) is a massive result. It's good news for the ALP, as it shows the 2022 election will be winnable if they get a more popular leader than Albanese - though I expect there will be a major correction to the preferred PM poll results once politics as usual resumes and Morrison has to start doing the job instead of just taking credit for the work of the state premiers.
justapassenger
I actually think Morrison has done a reasonable job so far in this Coronavirus Pandemic, it's a 1/100 year Pandemic, it ain't easy.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The two candidate preferred is the number that counts, and that is 52.9 / 47.1 at the moment.

ALP getting a positive swing despite losing a very high profile MP (Mike Kelly, hope his recovery from illness goes well) is a massive result. It's good news for the ALP, as it shows the 2022 election will be winnable if they get a more popular leader than Albanese - though I expect there will be a major correction to the preferred PM poll results once politics as usual resumes and Morrison has to start doing the job instead of just taking credit for the work of the state premiers.
I actually think Morrison has done a reasonable job so far in this Coronavirus Pandemic, it's a 1/100 year Pandemic, it ain't easy.
lsrailfan
Is that anything like the 1/100 year floods, or heatwaves, which now seem to routinely happen at less than ten year intervals?
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

It is getting grubby between KK* and Susan Leys on the Eden Monaro by-election commentary. KK is accused of preference deals with SFF. Anti-guns ALP in bed with Shooters (nothing is sacred in politics).

But earlier, the Shooters said this (quoted in news.com.au):

“If Labor was in power we would go against them too if their leader was in Hawaii while the District they claimed to care about was burning to the ground.”

* not Kim Kardashian
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The two candidate preferred is the number that counts, and that is 52.9 / 47.1 at the moment.

ALP getting a positive swing despite losing a very high profile MP (Mike Kelly, hope his recovery from illness goes well) is a massive result. It's good news for the ALP, as it shows the 2022 election will be winnable if they get a more popular leader than Albanese - though I expect there will be a major correction to the preferred PM poll results once politics as usual resumes and Morrison has to start doing the job instead of just taking credit for the work of the state premiers.
I actually think Morrison has done a reasonable job so far in this Coronavirus Pandemic, it's a 1/100 year Pandemic, it ain't easy.
Is that anything like the 1/100 year floods, or heatwaves, which now seem to routinely happen at less than ten year intervals?
duttonbay
So when was the last Global Pandemic then?
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
It is getting grubby between KK* and Susan Leys on the Eden Monaro by-election commentary. KK is accused of preference deals with SFF. Anti-guns ALP in bed with Shooters (nothing is sacred in politics).

But earlier, the Shooters said this (quoted in news.com.au):

“If Labor was in power we would go against them too if their leader was in Hawaii while the District they claimed to care about was burning to the ground.”

* not Kim Kardashian
ANR
Senator Kristina Keneally and Susan Ley were certainly going at it hammer and tongs when I looked earlier.

There's been a swing against Labor though and if they do win the seat it will be with preferences from a party that is surely the antithesis of everything they stand for... at the moment it could still go to the LNP because they'll have to rely on absentee and postal votes and those normally favor the Coalition.

This is not the clear-cut victory that either side were hoping for.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
The two candidate preferred is the number that counts, and that is 52.9 / 47.1 at the moment.

ALP getting a positive swing despite losing a very high profile MP (Mike Kelly, hope his recovery from illness goes well) is a massive result. It's good news for the ALP, as it shows the 2022 election will be winnable if they get a more popular leader than Albanese - though I expect there will be a major correction to the preferred PM poll results once politics as usual resumes and Morrison has to start doing the job instead of just taking credit for the work of the state premiers.
I actually think Morrison has done a reasonable job so far in this Coronavirus Pandemic, it's a 1/100 year Pandemic, it ain't easy.
Is that anything like the 1/100 year floods, or heatwaves, which now seem to routinely happen at less than ten year intervals?
So when was the last Global Pandemic then?
lsrailfan
Well the Brisbane River floods were supposedly a one-in-a-hundred-year event... that was Anna Bligh's reason for mis-managing the Wivenhoe Dam anyway.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Anyway back to politics - did anyone see the rumor on News.com.au that Mathias Corrman is set to quit after the Eden-Monaro by-election tomorrow? I'm not sure how serious it is but they claim he can't stand working with ScoMo and has called him a 'control' freak' in cabinet meetings.
don_dunstan

Announced this morning; Cormann is quitting at the end of the year. Gee; I hope he has something to do after he quits; we don't want him to get bored, do we!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Anyway back to politics - did anyone see the rumor on News.com.au that Mathias Corrman is set to quit after the Eden-Monaro by-election tomorrow? I'm not sure how serious it is but they claim he can't stand working with ScoMo and has called him a 'control' freak' in cabinet meetings.
Announced this morning; Corrman is quitting at the end of the year. Gee; I hope he has something to do after he quits; we don't want him to get bored, do we!
Valvegear
I'm thinking Macquarie Bank or similar, the same as Anna Bligh and Nathan Rees.

News is that Labor will squeak into Eden-Monaro with a handful of votes thanks to preferences from the Shooters and Fishers and the National Party; although that could change because absentee votes are yet to be counted and they usually favor the LNP. Strange bedfellows for the Labor Party...

Really not good news for Albo - the Labor primary vote has dropped and it wasn't the clear endorsement of his leadership he was looking for. Scotty is still by far and away the preferred PM and the LNP are ahead 52/48 nationally.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Anyway back to politics - did anyone see the rumor on News.com.au that Mathias Corrman is set to quit after the Eden-Monaro by-election tomorrow?
To quote Sir Humphrey, "Well let's not worry about it until it becomes something more than a rumour."
Valvegear
Confirmed. End of the year.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Well the Brisbane River floods were supposedly a one-in-a-hundred-year event...
don_dunstan
The Brisbane River has had many major floods during my considerably less than 100 year lifetime. I'm pretty sure Anna Bligh wasn't responsible for all of them!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Well the Brisbane River floods were supposedly a one-in-a-hundred-year event...
The Brisbane River has had many major floods during my considerably less than 100 year lifetime. I'm pretty sure Anna Bligh wasn't responsible for all of them!
Graham4405
The Wivenhoe Dam was mis-managed during that crisis - we can talk till the cows come home about who was responsible but ultimately Anna Bligh was the one in charge. Wasn't she?
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Labor's Kirsty McBain has claimed victory in the Eden-Monaro race with 20% of the votes still left to count - the Liberal Party hasn't conceded defeat yet. The key factor has been preference flows from the Shooters & Fishers and the National Party - I still think this is a disaster for Albo's leadership, there's only going to be a matter of a few hundred votes in it so in reality Labor have had a swing away from them of around 3%.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Well the Brisbane River floods were supposedly a one-in-a-hundred-year event...
The Brisbane River has had many major floods during my considerably less than 100 year lifetime. I'm pretty sure Anna Bligh wasn't responsible for all of them!
The Wivenhoe Dam was mis-managed during that crisis - we can talk till the cows come home about who was responsible but ultimately Anna Bligh was the one in charge. Wasn't she?
don_dunstan
I'm not getting into that. My point was simply that Anna Bligh wasn't responsible for every major flooding of the Brisbane River in my lifetime and that it has flooded many more times than once in the past 100 years..
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Well the Brisbane River floods were supposedly a one-in-a-hundred-year event...
The Brisbane River has had many major floods during my considerably less than 100 year lifetime. I'm pretty sure Anna Bligh wasn't responsible for all of them!
The Wivenhoe Dam was mis-managed during that crisis - we can talk till the cows come home about who was responsible but ultimately Anna Bligh was the one in charge. Wasn't she?
I'm not getting into that. My point was simply that Anna Bligh wasn't responsible for every major flooding of the Brisbane River in my lifetime and that it has flooded many more times than once in the past 100 years..
Graham4405
Well the completion of the Wivenhoe was supposedly going to stop the flooding forever and ever - amen. But it wasn't managed right - they were still on a drought footing. Ultimately the Premier is where the buck stops.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/libs-hire-exicac-boss-to-probe-branch-of-pms-righthand-man/news-story/ccc7683f43924e38b4652195ae5c9c38
Rapture on the way, or nothing to see here, move along?
michaelgm
Paywall prevents me from reading this.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/libs-hire-exicac-boss-to-probe-branch-of-pms-righthand-man/news-story/ccc7683f43924e38b4652195ae5c9c38
Rapture on the way, or nothing to see here, move along?
Paywall prevents me from reading this.
Graham4405
Sorry, Graham. Just checked, this was “free to air” when I posted the link.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Can you give us the synopsis please Michael?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Can you give us the synopsis please Michael?
don_dunstan
Sure, federal member for Mitchell, one Alex Hawke, is to be subject to a investigation of alleged doctoring of party meeting minutes, and branch stacking, find the latter curious as not sure how that can occur under their system.

Timing is a mystery as it seems to have occurred a couple of years back.
And it was published in the terrorgraph, today.
Rumours abound of him having some kind of involvement in the Ruby Princess thing, Twitter sources, so take it with a grain of salt. I have no direct knowledge. Releasing the passenger manifest may be enlightening.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The other one going around is that Cormann could be headed for the top job at the OECD.

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