Where am I Victoria? - Non Cryptic - #3

 
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Not Fairfield or Wodonga but both had the right idea.

I was located at a junction which served a dedicated siding.
I am in the western half of the State, outside the Metro area.

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  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Not Fairfield or Wodonga but both had the right idea.

I was located at a junction which served a dedicated siding.
I am in the western half of the State, outside the Metro area.
Valvegear
Bacchus Marsh
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Not Bacchus Marsh.

I was located at a junction which served a dedicated siding.
I am in the western half of the State, outside the Metro area.
Go a lot further north.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Not Bacchus Marsh.

I was located at a junction which served a dedicated siding.

I am in the western half of the State, outside the Metro area. Note: I said Western half of the state - not the Western District.

Go a lot further north.

I am about 165 mm slimmer than I used to be.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
So it's a location which was changed from BG to SG.  There are any number of "sidings" on the Mildura line, but I think we are looking for a junction location which led to a siding.  So I suggest Nowingi, where there was a junction leading to the Brunswick Plaster Mills Siding.
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Thanks, DH.

I was located at a junction which served a dedicated siding.
Valvegear
I'm confused about the terminology. Is it a siding or a junction? A siding (usually within a yard, but not necessarily) is just that, but junction implies a branch line, (which almost invariably leads to sidings).
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
As a wild guess, I would throw in Bung Bong, which, I understand, was a junction for a ballast siding.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Lad Porter has it with Nowingi.

The line was originally owned by VR, but was sold to Brunswick Plaster Mills. It is shown as Brunswick Plaster Mills Siding on maps.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Thanks Valvegear.  Now for something a bit different

A derailment near me caused a passenger train to take a different route.

Where am I, what train, and where did it go?
  david harvey Chief Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale
Thanks Valvegear.  Now for something a bit different

A derailment near me caused a passenger train to take a different route.
Where am I, what train, and where did it go?
Where am I,                 Bungaree   The Overland derailed   August 1971 ?
What train, the derailment caused the  passenger train  The Vinelander to take  a different route
Where did it go?  to take a different route.To travel to Mildura via the Castlemaine to Maryborough branch?


Lad_Porter
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Right idea, but wrong line and wrong train.

It was triggered by a derailment at a station on a main line in Victoria.  The passenger train was unable to pass the derailment site, so it was diverted at an earlier point, to take an alternate route.  After a big loop around through unfamiliar territory, it reached its destination eventually.

Name of the station where the derailment occurred?
Name of the train?
What was the alternate route?

It happened in 1953.
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
I believe that the Overland was diverted through Mount Gambier in March 1953 because of derailment, not at a Victorian station, but at Coonalpyn, S.A.
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
I believe that the Overland was diverted through Mount Gambier in March 1953 because of derailment, not at a Victorian station, but at Coonalpyn, S.A.
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
Sorry, didn't mean to send a duplicate.  I can find only one example of a derailment in 1953, not two.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I have a vague memory that the Overland left Melbourne and went via Cressy and Maroona on one occasion but, try as I might, I can't verify it. If it's true, presumably the derailment would have been somewhere between Warrenheip and Ararat.
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
Valvegear, were you thinking of the overland's derailment at Bungaree in 1971?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Valvegear, were you thinking of the overland's derailment at Bungaree in 1971?
"Faredodger"
Possibly but, as I said, it's a vague memory from a long time ago.
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
I'm not sure who has won here, probably Faredodger is closest, but the incident I am mentioning was a derailment at Kiata in 1953.  In those days the Overland was God, like the SOP, not to be messed with and must go through.  As the line was blocked at Kiata, the Overland was diverted via Hamilton to eventually arrive at Mt Gambier.  The SAR had recently upgraded the line from Mt Gambier to Wolseley, from NG to BG, so the Overland was able to go that way and rejoin the main line at Wolseley.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Well, Lad_Porter; you did say a big loop through unfamiliar territory and it sure was. It certainly isn't the occasion which I could vaguely recall. I'm happy for Faredodger to put up the next quiz if you are.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I'm not sure who has won here, probably Faredodger is closest, but the incident I am mentioning was a derailment at Kiata in 1953.  In those days the Overland was God, like the SOP, not to be messed with and must go through.  As the line was blocked at Kiata, the Overland was diverted via Hamilton to eventually arrive at Mt Gambier.  The SAR had recently upgraded the line from Mt Gambier to Wolseley, from NG to BG, so the Overland was able to go that way and rejoin the main line at Wolseley.
Lad_Porter
Very interesting Lad_Porter, what a scenic trip, you wouldn't have wanted to be in a hurry.

BigShunter.
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
I couldn't find anything on the Kiata derailment until I knew what the place was.  It appears that there were two derailments in 1953 that resulted in the Overland's being diverted through Mount Gambier, one in March and one in September.

Well, more than 24 hours have elapsed, and no-one has objected to the suggestion that I put up the next post, so here I go.  I'm new at this....

Hmmm!  Here's an easy one to start me off.

I was the main intermediate station on a long closed rural branch line.

The town I served was the birthplace of an opera singer of international renown.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Deans Marsh?
  Faredodger Train Controller

Location: Ferntree Gully
I said it was going to be an easy one.  There goes my moment of glory.

It was indeed Deans Marsh, or more correctly, Dean Marsh.  (My next clue was going to be that the station name was one of the more ridiculous examples of the V.R.'s policy of abbreviating station names.)

The opera singer was, of course, Marjorie Lawrence (although the Hollywood biopic would have us believe she came from Winchelsea - and the station shown therein bore little visual resemblance to the real Winchelsea station).  I find it gratifying that we have cultured individuals subscribing to this thread.

Well done, Valvegear.  Your turn, I believe.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The opera singer was, of course, Marjorie Lawrence (although the Hollywood biopic would have us believe she came from Winchelsea - and the station shown therein bore little visual resemblance to the real Winchelsea station).  I find it gratifying that we have cultured individuals subscribing to this thread.
"Faredodger"
. Thanks Faredodger. The opera singer was the dead giveaway - I don't know about "cultured", but I'm certainly an opera lover! I'll be back as soon as I can think of something. (Exits stage left whistling "bella figlia dell amore").

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