Border Lockdown - An Opportunity for freight to shift to rail?

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Listening to regional ABC Radio, interstate truck operators are scratching their heads about the logistics of getting freight across the border between Wodonga and Albury by truck. Something like 150 trucks a day is just for Coles Supermarkets!

Rail freight operators should see this as an opportunity to take away business from the conga line of trucks that will block the Hume Hwy...

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Listening to regional ABC Radio, interstate truck operators are scratching their heads about the logistics of getting freight across the border between Wodonga and Albury by truck. Something like 150 trucks a day is just for Coles Supermarkets!
Carnot

Do coles really run 150 b-doubles per day between Sydney and Melbourne?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Easily 150 per day.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Shouldn't freight on the Hume Freeway flow more freely without all the personal transport that won't be allowed to cross the border?

Sounds more like an opportunity for road operators to undercut rail and win some business while rail industry leaders stand around scratching their heads.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

I work in the transport industry, they get special exemptions from the Governmnets to keep freight moving. (Essential services) and they do checked regulary for the COVID.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Shouldn't freight on the Hume Freeway flow more freely without all the personal transport that won't be allowed to cross the border?

Sounds more like an opportunity for road operators to undercut rail and win some business while rail industry leaders stand around scratching their heads.
justapassenger

Yep there is definitely a lack of good solid leadership in Australia's rail companies many of which still think business comes to them.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I work in the transport industry, they get special exemptions from the Governmnets to keep freight moving. (Essential services) and they do checked regulary for the COVID.
trainbrain
Agree trainbrain, it sounds like a load of hot cock to me ! My mate lives in Kaniva and works out of Boardertown, he runs trucks to Keith back to Horsham, swap drivers, truck continues on to Melbourne and other truck back to Boardertown or Keith. Also runs a trucks from Naracoorte same deal as mentioned and will continue as they are essential services.

The Coppers are at the boarder but they know who he is what he's up to and he has his certificate of essential transport or what ever. Trucks are still running from Vic to over here as well.

Hysterical people and the media fueling things up Again !

BigShunter.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Not sure how you lot down south are operating your Cavid19 border checkpoints now that you also, like QLD, are having a state border checkpoint, but the QLD /NSW Covid19 border checkpoint has been in operation for a few months and trucks get waved through into QLD. The following QLD website states freight transport drivers are not required to complete the Queensland Border Declaration Pass.  https://www.qld.gov.au/border-pass
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
The suggestion right now is to divert all private car traffic along the causeway for identity checks.
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
A truck driver was interviewed on his trip via the Albury/Wodinga border and said he drove straight through north from victoria with a load for Brisbane without being stopped.  How can any trucking company make  money on that run when rail can carry 60 containers per train making it much cheaper please help me understand freight rates between Brisbane and Melbourne and vv.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
A truck driver was interviewed on his trip via the Albury/Wodinga border and said he drove straight through north from victoria with a load for Brisbane without being stopped.  How can any trucking company make  money on that run when rail can carry 60 containers per train making it much cheaper please help me understand freight rates between Brisbane and Melbourne and vv.
NSWGR8022
Trucks are faster.
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
A truck driver was interviewed on his trip via the Albury/Wodinga border and said he drove straight through north from victoria with a load for Brisbane without being stopped.  How can any trucking company make  money on that run when rail can carry 60 containers per train making it much cheaper please help me understand freight rates between Brisbane and Melbourne and vv.
Trucks are faster.
LancedDendrite
"Without being stopped" or without stopping Very Happy
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

A truck driver was interviewed on his trip via the Albury/Wodinga border and said he drove straight through north from victoria with a load for Brisbane without being stopped.  How can any trucking company make  money on that run when rail can carry 60 containers per train making it much cheaper please help me understand freight rates between Brisbane and Melbourne and vv.
NSWGR8022
Because all too often the rail industry doesn't even try to compete.

If there is no rail option to provide the service needed by the customer or the rail company is too difficult to work with, the truckers can charge at profitable rates because there's no competition.
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

A truck driver was interviewed on his trip via the Albury/Wodinga border and said he drove straight through north from victoria with a load for Brisbane without being stopped.  How can any trucking company make  money on that run when rail can carry 60 containers per train making it much cheaper please help me understand freight rates between Brisbane and Melbourne and vv.
NSWGR8022
Unless the train and all 60 containers are going to the same place that has rail access its useless. The rail network in Australia and more so in Victoria is inflexible. What is needed and what is always pushed to the side are intermodal terminals. One is planed to be in Bervridge, and WFIT Western Interstate Freight Terminal. Both spoken about for years with zero action.

Currently TFE's are offloaded in Dynon Yard and then trucked back to the suburbs. With major freight locations in the west, Epping in the North and Dandenong in the East. It adds hours to the journey and truck ends up having to drive out of the city in traffic. If you coming from Regional NSW or QLD its easier and quicker to just truck the whole way then worry about rail and moving the TFE back on to a truck to complete the 'last mile'.

The current freight plan (if it ever happens) is to have an interstate terminal in Trugganina to offload TFE on to trucks then straight on the the Metro Ring Road. The Vic Gov wants Inland Rail to end here not at Tottenham. BIFT In Beverage is the same, as it next to the Hume Freeway and the planned E6 Freeway.

Once this is rolled out, rail becomes competitive with trucks. Double Stacked trains pull into a warehouse and are unloaded onto trucks to complete the last mile around Melbourne. No need to go into the city and then back out.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Give this thread a bit of a heart massage,

Ag, freight continues to flow across SA-Vic border blocks.

The SA-Vic border has become a battleline in the fight against COVID-19, but luckily the impacts on agriculture appear to be minimal.

Border restrictions have been in place for months, but last week SA Police and the army began manning 45 unsealed roads and 20 sealed roads into Vic around the clock.


In the past 60 days to Tuesday, 85,995 travellers have entered SA, with 44,993 classified as essential.

Link from Wimmera MailTimes and Stock Journal; https://www.stockjournal.com.au/story/6835578/ag-freight-continues-to-flow-across-sa-vic-border-blocks/?src=rss

BigShunter.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Border restrictions have been in place for months, but last week SA Police and the army began manning 45 unsealed roads and 20 sealed roads into Vic around the clock.
BigShunter
I think that should read 'roads OUT of Victoria'. Your Sub-Editor needs a kick up the linotype Shunter Laughing
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Border restrictions have been in place for months, but last week SA Police and the army began manning 45 unsealed roads and 20 sealed roads into Vic around the clock.
I think that should read 'roads OUT of Victoria'. Your Sub-Editor needs a kick up the linotype Shunter Laughing
BrentonGolding
Well depends on which direction your travelling, their trying to stop Mikelander from getting out of Vic and trying to stop don from getting into Vic...Razz

BigShunter.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Truck queues are now up to 4 km long at the borders. Rail freight industry is asleep if they aren't  regaining what they lost to road in the past few decades.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
A couple of related articles here, by the sounds of it, things at not only Bordertown but down South at the Mount, interstate trucks are finding the going rather difficult.

Freight chaos at SA border caused by new coronavirus testing rules.

There was "chaos" at the South Australian border this week when south-west transport companies hit a roadblock after new coronavirus testing regulations caused "massive confusion", an MP said.

Trucks were lined up for hours on Wednesday and many were turned around, member for South West Coast Roma Britnell said.


https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/6857769/freight-chaos-at-the-sa-border/?cs=12 link from todays Wimmera MailTimes.

https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSAdelaide/videos/740207206820977/  link from 7 news Adelaide last night.

BigShunter.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
A local bloke up here who carts cattle to Naracoorte Market got turned around a week ago.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Where are the trailer rail services we should be seeing?
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
It seems articles are plastered everywhere at present, eh Graham4405 so here's a bit more.......

Cross-border commissioner Luke Wilson says he is working through issues with South Australia.

In a statement, Mr Wilson said:

"We are aware of numerous challenges resulting from the new restrictions imposed by the South Australian Government this week, including implications for border community members, commercial transport and freight, essential workers and Victoria's coronavirus testing regime.


Residents in cross-border communities are considered an 'essential travellers' and can enter South Australia for work, education, care, or food and supplies but must not travel further than 40km into South Australia from the Victorian border.

Cross-border community members are defined by South Australia as a person "ordinarily residing in Victoria within 40 km of a South Australian border".

https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/6860747/cross-border-commissioner-working-through-south-australia-issues/


Link from the ShunterTimes Razz

BigShunter.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Where are the trailer rail services we should be seeing?
bevans

Our rail gauge is too small to load trailers on top of even low slung wagons (which is why we've only seen it on the Nullaboar). Trailerrail trains had specialised trailers to make up the train.
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Why aren't the rail companies trying to win more business right now when they have a better product in the covid19 situations?

It is only a matter of time now before the second wave is national making it a boom for rail.  I see no vision to do anything much at all unless you come to the rail company.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Perhaps someone, somewhere is trying.

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