Location: Melbourne, Australia
SSR buys more retro locos
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
An update on arsebook this morning stating that an orange bulldog was second unit on a grain heading south of Junee at 7 am today.
CLP12 out and about for a bit of shakedown.
Junction box
Chief Commissioner
Location: newy
Some of those converted coal wagons are copping it from the graffiti boys.
Dangersdan707
Chief Commissioner
Location: On a Thing with Internet
Some of those converted coal wagons are copping it from the graffiti boys.Mentioned elsewhere on this site, legally graffitied for an arts festival in Kensington.
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
An update on arsebook this morning stating that an orange bulldog was second unit on a grain heading south of Junee at 7 am today.
CLP12 out and about for a bit of shakedown.
CLP12 has been painted in grey primer/ work continuing on CLF3
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
SSR has purchased L277 which is being moved from Melbourne to Cootamundra today.
CLF1 was moved from Coota to Seymour yesterday for repainting in SSR's yellow and black livery.
CLF1 was moved from Coota to Seymour yesterday for repainting in SSR's yellow and black livery.
ADB
Junior Train Controller
SSR has purchased L277 which is being moved from Melbourne to Cootamundra today.Are the locos SSR have bought due to winning new contracts, or are they replacing older locos that have conked out? I would have thought SSR's ops would have been a bit subdued the last couple of years with the NSW drought, but it doesn't seem to be the case?
CLF1 was moved from Coota to Seymour yesterday for repainting in SSR's yellow and black livery.
Dangersdan707
Chief Commissioner
Location: On a Thing with Internet
I'd of thought it would be to replace the hired stuff from CFCLA in NSW?SSR has purchased L277 which is being moved from Melbourne to Cootamundra today.Are the locos SSR have bought due to winning new contracts, or are they replacing older locos that have conked out? I would have thought SSR's ops would have been a bit subdued the last couple of years with the NSW drought, but it doesn't seem to be the case?
CLF1 was moved from Coota to Seymour yesterday for repainting in SSR's yellow and black livery.
M636C
Minister for Railways
SSR have been running a lot of interstate grain trains to replace the lack of grain withing NSW.
They haven't been using a lot of CFCLA power.
Five or six CMs seem to be out of use anyway...
Peter
They haven't been using a lot of CFCLA power.
Five or six CMs seem to be out of use anyway...
Peter
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
Only two CFCLA locos on hire for use on Kelso services. Any CFCLA locos used on Crawfords services are leased by Crawfords themselves.I'd of thought it would be to replace the hired stuff from CFCLA in NSW?SSR has purchased L277 which is being moved from Melbourne to Cootamundra today.Are the locos SSR have bought due to winning new contracts, or are they replacing older locos that have conked out? I would have thought SSR's ops would have been a bit subdued the last couple of years with the NSW drought, but it doesn't seem to be the case?
CLF1 was moved from Coota to Seymour yesterday for repainting in SSR's yellow and black livery.
There has been an increase in the Centennial coal traffic which is using an additional four locos, and there is anticipation of a big harvest task coming up.
As M636C has pointed out, throughout the drought SSR has still had 3 rain trains on the go most of the time loading in Western Victoria and South Australia.
ADB
Junior Train Controller
As M636C has pointed out, throughout the drought SSR has still had 3 rain trains on the go most of the time loading in Western Victoria and South Australia.
Well if they're "rain trains", I reckon they would have been in heavy demand.
The typo's probably not far wrong - if you could have collected the foam generated down here by those quad and quin C-class lash-ups, you could have ended the drought!On a more serious note, how many grain trains does SSR in NSW have? Did they mothball any rakes, or did the Vic/SA odysseys pretty much make up for any loss in NSW domestic/export grain traffic? From down here in Vic, that drought has looked like Armageddon, but you're still running the Kelso Flyer (which is containerised grain for export, isn't it?), so I guess at least parts of NSW have had decent harvests?
Anyway, thanks for replying earlier.
james.au
Minister for Railways
Location: Sydney, NSW
From a very external look, SSR doesnt have NSW rakes or Victoria rakes (the BG set excluded obviously). Their set goes all over the SG network.
Just like a set should.
Just like a set should.
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
As M636C has pointed out, throughout the drought SSR has still had 3 rain trains on the go most of the time loading in Western Victoria and South Australia.
Well if they're "rain trains", I reckon they would have been in heavy demand.
On a more serious note, how many grain trains does SSR in NSW have? Did they mothball any rakes, or did the Vic/SA odysseys pretty much make up for any loss in NSW domestic/export grain traffic? From down here in Vic, that drought has looked like Armageddon, but you're still running the Kelso Flyer (which is containerised grain for export, isn't it?), so I guess at least parts of NSW have had decent harvests?
Anyway, thanks for replying earlier.
3-5 rakes in use on SG depending on how many wagons you want in your rake - all currently in use.
Despite the name, the Kelso is mainly logs at the moment.
There's still bits and pieces of pre-drought grain sitting around NSW in silos and bunkers, but it's very difficult to work out what is what. For example, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston in recent weeks?
james.au
Minister for Railways
Location: Sydney, NSW
There's still bits and pieces of pre-drought grain sitting around NSW in silos and bunkers, but it's very difficult to work out what is what. For example, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston in recent weeks?A Bingley Hall cryptic question.....
They are typically dryland areas, however there is some irrigation out there. I would have thought all the old season grain would have been gone by now to the feedlots etc (as old season is considered more like feed grain as the protein breaks down after about 18months and its not that good for bread anymore).
ADB
Junior Train Controller
From a very external look, SSR doesnt have NSW rakes or Victoria rakes (the BG set excluded obviously). Their set goes all over the SG network.
True, dat. And at the risk of raising the ire of Dangersdan, the grain runs into Vic from NSW illustrate the synergies of of Vic going SG.
3-5 rakes in use on SG depending on how many wagons you want in your rake - all currently in use.
And it sounds like they've pretty much all been in use since the start of the drought.
I've been a bit slow on the uptake here. I was assuming the Vic/SA lifts were to make whole NSW domestic consumption, and given that domestic consumption accounts for only a fraction of any overall harvest, that would still leave SSR et al with a big dent from the lack of export grain. But the Vic/SA stuff has been feedlot grain, hasn't it? You've basically shifted from export grain, to import grain to keep NSW' meat and dairy industry (literally) alive. Duh.
There's still bits and pieces of pre-drought grain sitting around NSW in silos and bunkers, but it's very difficult to work out what is what. For example, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston in recent weeks?
I dunno, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston recently? Like james, I'm really surprised that there was still pre-drought grain in the silos, too. I gathered 2017 was a bumper crop, but still...
BrentonGolding
Chief Commissioner
Location: Maldon Junction
Aren't they the trains carting water during the drought?As M636C has pointed out, throughout the drought SSR has still had 3 rain trains on the go most of the time loading in Western Victoria and South Australia.
Well if they're "rain trains", I reckon they would have been in heavy demand.
firefox
Station Master
Bingley/allAs M636C has pointed out, throughout the drought SSR has still had 3 rain trains on the go most of the time loading in Western Victoria and South Australia.
Well if they're "rain trains", I reckon they would have been in heavy demand.
On a more serious note, how many grain trains does SSR in NSW have? Did they mothball any rakes, or did the Vic/SA odysseys pretty much make up for any loss in NSW domestic/export grain traffic? From down here in Vic, that drought has looked like Armageddon, but you're still running the Kelso Flyer (which is containerised grain for export, isn't it?), so I guess at least parts of NSW have had decent harvests?
Anyway, thanks for replying earlier.
3-5 rakes in use on SG depending on how many wagons you want in your rake - all currently in use.
Despite the name, the Kelso is mainly logs at the moment.
There's still bits and pieces of pre-drought grain sitting around NSW in silos and bunkers, but it's very difficult to work out what is what. For example, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston in recent weeks?
All those trains ex the Hillston line were consigned to Carrington for NAT & Baiada at Sulphide Jct. So domestic grain, possibly feed barley left over from the 2017/18 crop.
james.au
Minister for Railways
Location: Sydney, NSW
But the Vic/SA stuff has been feedlot grain, hasn't it? You've basically shifted from export grain, to import grain to keep NSW' meat and dairy industry (literally) alive. Duh.I dont have sources for this but I suspect some of this grain was going into SW Queensland to the feedlots etc there too. A few trains went to Moree if i have my details correct which I think could then be easily unloaded in the sub-terminal there and trucked the last part of the distance. Please though if I am wrong please correct this.
I dunno, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston recently? Like james, I'm really surprised that there was still pre-drought grain in the silos, too. I gathered 2017 was a bumper crop, but still...I wonder if Bingley will spill the beans.
Hmm, could it be beans?? ;P
(I dont think it is beans TBH...)
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
I dont have sources for this but I suspect some of this grain was going into SW Queensland to the feedlots etc there too. A few trains went to Moree if i have my details correct which I think could then be easily unloaded in the sub-terminal there and trucked the last part of the distance. Please though if I am wrong please correct this.I dunno, what have SSR been hauling out of Merriwagga and Hillston recently? Like james, I'm really surprised that there was still pre-drought grain in the silos, too. I gathered 2017 was a bumper crop, but still...I wonder if Bingley will spill the beans.
Hmm, could it be beans?? ;P
(I dont think it is beans TBH...)
I honestly don't know the answer, but what firefox says makes good sense.
As for Moree I would say you are on the money james. Remember it's not just SSR that has run to Moree. Aurizon for instance have a contract with Broadbents who have a facility at Moreee on the stub of the old Inverell branch which has been seeing a train roughly every 10-14 days for last 6 months or so.
ADB
Junior Train Controller
Bing, you mentioned earlier that SSR were anticipating a big harvest coming up. Is this in Vic or somewhere else?? (Last question. I promise).
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
Bing, you mentioned earlier that SSR were anticipating a big harvest coming up. Is this in Vic or somewhere else?? (Last question. I promise).
From SSR's perspective, in Victoria and NSW.
ADB
Junior Train Controller
Bing, you mentioned earlier that SSR were anticipating a big harvest coming up. Is this in Vic or somewhere else?? (Last question. I promise).
From SSR's perspective, in Victoria and NSW.
NSW, too? Well, it's good to see at least parts of NSW are recovering. I was looking at a drought map that said 90% of NSW was still "drought affected", in "drought", or in "severe drought" - though most of the state was in the first category, which presumably means recovering but not fully there yet. Fingers crossed. Anyway, thanks for your input.
greasyrhys
Chief Commissioner
Location: MacDonald Park, SA
It’s a great shame SSR are giving in from the unnecessary pressure from the nsw epa to muffle the exhausts on their C class, totally pointless yet they have no issue with noisy trucks dominating the road networks?!?
Talk about double standards
Talk about double standards
Gman_86
Chief Commissioner
Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Yes it is a shame that rail is given more stringent restrictions to follow then their road going competitors, but you can hardly blame SSR for following the rules their industry has been asked to follow.
I do agree it is a shame that road operators haven't been given equivalent restrictions, but that isn't likely in this country.
I do agree it is a shame that road operators haven't been given equivalent restrictions, but that isn't likely in this country.
Mufreight
Train Controller
Location: North Ipswich
Some legacy action from SSRThere have a number of posters here who have criticised SSR for their purchases of older locos that will in a few years not meet the pollution requirements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKJREgZkA2U
The locos in the S, GM and CLP and CLF classes all have the possibility of being upgraded with new prime movers that would meet the tier 4 pollution requirements such as the Cummins CSK 95 which while not only meeting the highest air pollution requirements could also upgrade the horsepower in the case of the CLF/CLP from 3000 HP to over 4000 HP with the upgrades able to be carried out in their own company workshops.