The corona virus COVID-19

 
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Sounds like Premier Andrews is keen to keep the bad news about his cheap security guard bungle off the front page, at least until the current outbreak has died down.
It's straight out of Sir Humphrey's Political Manual, Chapter 1: Escape Clauses.  As soon as something like this occurs, you set up an independent enquiry and then you can't comment because you're pre-empting the enquiry's report.
Sir Humphrey’s political manual must be compulsory reading for all.

Scumo has continued his suppression strategy by requesting parliament be suspended again.
Suppression of scrutiny, any relation to COVID 19 is a convenient bonus.
Please don't refer to him as "Scumo", it's very slanderous , it don't matter what you think of the man.
lsrailfan
Your request has been considered and denied.

Perhaps, it’s a typo?

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Please don't refer to him as "Scumo", it's very slanderous , it don't matter what you think of the man.
"lsrailfan"
In point of fact it's not the least bit slanderous. To be slanderous (or libellous) you need to make unfounded and base allegations or accusations against him. It may be offensive to you and others, but it's a nickname no worse than Pig Iron Bob, the Prim Monster Billy McMoan, or The Witch.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Please don't refer to him as "Scumo", it's very slanderous , it don't matter what you think of the man.
In point of fact it's not the least bit slanderous. To be slanderous (or libellous) you need to make unfounded and base allegations or accusations against him. It may be offensive to you and others, but it's a nickname no worse than Pig Iron Bob, the Prim Monster Billy McMoan, or The Witch.
Valvegear
@Valvegear, I do understand, but I think Scomo is a much better nickname than the other one, but point taken none the less...
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

A nickname gives one familiarity, trust and respect

None of these things do I feel for the current prime monkey
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

1 Holidaying while the country burns and still those affected are still in the suffering

2 Schools are safe
How many outbreaks and closed for deep clearing are acceptable

3 open the economy
He and his minions pushed and pushed for reopening scaring and trivialising the premiers

4 poorly designed packages that help the few not the many
suspending parliament
we are left in limbo with this neo con

5 Attacking the unemployed consistently until the pandemic then realised better increase the benefits so people can survive how long will this last

6 Robo debt.....

Heaven help when job keeper ends
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Of course everything is going bad it was the place was opened up way too early
doyle
No, the economy wasn't opened up too early, the quarantine was botched. The infection was under control until it was re-imported into the country and leaked out of quarantine.

This is not the first outbreak coming back, its a second importation of the virus from overseas. This is 100% state government screw up. Nothing to do with opening up too early.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
suspending parliament
doyle
Parliament has to be suspended.

ACT/NSW is not going to allow Victorians in, even if they were allowed in, having spent time with Victorians no state is going to allow their representatives to come back and spread the virus about.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Cancel parliament but it's OK to send kids and teachers to school
The libs must be loving the less scrutiny
doyle
Not many kids and teachers need to travel across the nation to attend school...
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

You get the point
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

So how did the virus spread? Allegations of blame have been levelled at private security firms contracted to operate the state's quarantine. Neighbouring New South Wales took a different approach - using the police force.

Victoria has faced accusations of systemic failures such as guards being improperly trained or not given enough PPE.

Mr Andrews has also described cases of illegal socialising between staff, listing examples of workers sharing a cigarette lighter or car-pooling. Local media also reported claims of sex between guards and quarantined travellers.

The government has ordered a judicial inquiry into their quarantine operation and fired the contractors.

Unlike in many states, the virus had been 'seeded'
In early May - during Australia's lockdown - authorities expressed concern about a virus cluster among workers at an abattoir in Melbourne's west.

About 111 cases were eventually linked to the site, which had been the subject of a rapid trace-and-track response from authorities.

Lockdown restrictions eased a month later, allowing people to again visit friends and family, and enjoy other freedoms such as eating out at restaurants.

But experts believe that secondary cases from that cluster - and possibly others - were still festering undetected in the community.


Victoria's daily case increase. . .
"It seeded the population… and there were enough cases out there when the precautions relaxed," Prof John Matthews from the University of Melbourne tells the BBC.

Some became complacent as freedoms returned
With the relaxation of lockdown and Australia's apparent success, the public also became less vigilant, experts say.

Officials were still exhorting social distancing, but group limits were expanded. Large family groups reconnected and some cases stemmed from people with mild symptoms attending those gatherings, authorities said.

"Once the feeling got around that it was over - when it really wasn't - Victoria copped it," says Prof Matthews.

Allegations of poor messaging to non-English-speaking communities
The locked-down "hotspots" in Melbourne's north and west are also home to large migrant communities.

Leaders from those areas have argued that communication of public health orders was insufficient for non-English speakers, and this was exacerbated as restrictions rapidly changed throughout May.

Given Melbourne's significantly multicultural make-up - a language other than English is spoken in almost 35% of households - this was a notable oversight, critics said.

Image copyrightAFP/GETTYHealth workers speak to a resident in an affected Melbourne area
Image captionHealth workers going door-to-door to check up on residents in the hotspot areas
Researchers have also found that translations were inadequate, materials weren't being circulated, and there were even allegations of government agencies falsifying communications.

It's also just 'bad luck', experts say
Authorities have always emphasised that such outbreaks would be inevitable once Australia's lockdown lifted. In recent weeks, they've said the situation in Victoria could have happened anywhere.

So why Melbourne and not Sydney, for instance - Australia's other comparably sized city? Sydney has Australia's busiest airport and exited lockdown two weeks before Melbourne. It also, broadly, had looser lockdown measures.

Health officials have said that much of it is probably a matter of "bad luck".

The genomic report has added some more information - that similar violations in hotel quarantine have not been reported in Sydney. The report has not been released publicly but has been referenced by state officials.

But much of the whole-picture evidence remains circumstantial, says Prof Mathews, who adds that Victorians have been unfortunate to experience both the meatworks and quarantine issues.

not just from hotel quantine it seems

From the BBC
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

Clearly schools are not that safe
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Just have a look at this, this is such an uncanny resemblance to the 1918 Spanish Flu it's not funny, this was Australian Story last Monday on the ABC - https://iview.abc.net.au/show/australian-story
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Hopefully this is a disincentive to the posers who are bored and go to shopping centres for no good reason:
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Victoria has again recorded a high figure of Coronavirus cases overnight, 363 cases to be exact.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Talk back radio was full of punters saying they'll refuse to wear masks. It'll be interesting to see how this gets policed.
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

How are people that stupid
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
It'll be interesting to see for sure how it is policed, it will be a $200 fine apparently if you don't comply, here is all the info - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-19/face-masks-melbourne-victoria-rules-who-needs-to-wear-them/12470640
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
It'll be interesting to see for sure how it is policed, it will be a $200 fine apparently if you don't comply, here is all the info - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-19/face-masks-melbourne-victoria-rules-who-needs-to-wear-them/12470640
lsrailfan
Jim Carey shows how to wear one properly -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KONoeHwu2pg
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
People caught trying to run away from Melbourne to sunny and relatively COVID-free South Australia - ABC News;

The two men, aged 34 and 35, were caught in a taxi near the Mawson Lakes Hotel, in Adelaide's northern suburbs, about 12:15pm, while the woman was arrested in a nearby lane, police said.

Police say the Victorian-registered blue Holden Rodeo ute with the number plate 1IB 4CT crossed the Yamba checkpoint at about 5:00pm yesterday.

A person in the ute allegedly told police they required urgent medical attention for a broken ankle, but failed to show at the nominated medical centre in South Australia.

Police Commissioner Grant Stevens told the media at midday it appeared the trio were not telling the truth about the injury.
The two men were taken to the Royal Adelaide Hospital — one for an ankle injury and the other for a check-up — while the woman was taken to the City Watch House.

All three will have to do a coronavirus test.
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

Surely it must be time for shock ads people on ventilators, people doing rehabilitation people, dying alone and no family around
Grim reaper stuff
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Surely it must be time for shock ads people on ventilators, people doing rehabilitation people, dying alone and no family around
Grim reaper stuff
doyle
Grim reaper with bowling balls? That was my favorite.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Surely it must be time for shock ads people on ventilators, people doing rehabilitation people, dying alone and no family around
Grim reaper stuff
doyle
Grim reaper with bowling balls? That was my favorite.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I am sort of only just old enough to remember the grim reaper ads, I think most of my recollection of them comes from those shows about iconic advertisements. Even so, they had an impact on the way I think about STIs etc.

I remember one guy about a half a generation older than me saying that once he saw the grim reaper ad he started wearing two condoms when he met a new girl...

I have a colleague who is maybe in his mid sixties and gay. He told me those ads when he was a younger man are most likely why he is alive and healthy today, he single believes that those bowling grim reaper ads significantly added to his current quality of life.

That’s enough for me, I wonder why we don’t have something similar widely out there today.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

I wouldn't bother with ads.

Restaurants, pubs, clubs, cafes, casinos (have I forgotten anything?) should immediately close their doors.  They can remain open for take out meals only.

Functions should be canned.

Anyone having a house party where there is more than one attendee should be put on a specially chartered Overland or IP and transported somewhere along the TAR. One way ticket. They can continue their party at the destination.

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