I wonder if we'll see it rolled out in the rest of Vic - is it going to be a completely different system to the ARTC system in the northeast?
I'm excited about twice daily to Echuca - Echuca kind of feels like a forgotten line!
C'mon Bevans, this needs to be locked and re-directed to the RRR forum where there is already a discussion about itNothing stopping Echuca going from 1 return a day to 2 return now. Simple 0914 Dn Bendigo runs as a DC split Bendigo front half continues to Echuca arrive 1240 form 1320 Up Echuca replaces 1423 Up Epsom attach second set at Bendigo arrive Southern Cross 1633 as now.
C'mon Bevans, this needs to be locked and re-directed to the RRR forum where there is already a discussion about it
Just to elaborate on this, they're not changing the safe working system on the line so there's no need for a change in signalling, all that is happening is that the train order (no idea where train ordering came from) will shift from being hand written on paper forms to an electronic train order received via the ice radio.Anyone know why they are upgrading the train ordering system instead of installing signals?
Much cheaper for in-cab and will apparently come around or under budget. Actual Signals will blow the budget.
I wonder if we'll see it rolled out in the rest of Vic - is it going to be a completely different system to the ARTC system in the northeast?If the electronic train orders are successful on the Echuca line I believe it will be rolled across the rest of the existing train order territory's in Vic. The North East line is CTC which is a different safe working system to train orders.
Does the radio have recording? I'm not doubting drivers' ability of comprehension, but with orders given completely in the form of voice communication, something could go wrong.The system is said to be that used in Regional NSW. For once Victoria is NOT re-inventing the wheel as we so often do to justify the empire building .
The existing manual train orders take 5 minutes to recite/repeat back which delays trains, and it is said that there is some industrial thing that only ten train orders can be issued per train controller per shift.There's something wrong if its taking 5 minutes to verify a train order, its a pretty quick process once you have the train order in your hand which in most places for V/Line is issued to the signaler or station staff and is handed to the driver to verify. There will be potential benefits where there is tight scheduling for UP and DOWN trains over a section but to be honest I'd be surprised if there were any timetable alterations. Never heard of the 10 TO order limit per TC shift.
Does the radio have recording?Yes. All critical comms (and most others) are recorded. The verification process is meant to eliminate errors and any potential misunderstandings.
Does the ICE radio only convey voice commtunication or does it actually display the ticket?There is currently an 'authorities' section in the ice radio that appears to be able to display text. I say appears to be able to display text as its not something that we currently use but I assume is what the electronic train orders will use otherwise it will require a software update.
Does the ICE radio only convey voice commtunication or does it actually display the ticket?
Are all RFR lines CTC?No. TPWS (Train Protection & Working System).