Port Kembla becomes major import hub for renewable projects

 

News article: Port Kembla becomes major import hub for renewable projects

Port Kembla has received the first components for the Bango Wind Farm, with 46 of the turbines due to be imported through the port over the next six months.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Why the need to import these components when they can be made locally in Australia?

Port Kembla becomes major import hub for renewable projects

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  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

Why the need to import these components when they can be made locally in Australia?

bevans
cost - we can build some of the parts like the tower ... but with mass producing factories for the product we don't have a chance .. we lost manufacturing in AU ..
  aussie48 Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Why the need to import these components when they can be made locally in Australia?
cost - we can build some of the parts like the tower ... but with mass producing factories for the product we don't have a chance .. we lost manufacturing in AU ..
viaprojects
One should really ask, why are we spending money on Wind Turbines or any other form of renewables when we know that they can't replace the base load power generated by Hydro and Coal Fired Power Stations?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Why the need to import these components when they can be made locally in Australia?
cost - we can build some of the parts like the tower ... but with mass producing factories for the product we don't have a chance .. we lost manufacturing in AU ..
One should really ask, why are we spending money on Wind Turbines or any other form of renewables when we know that they can't replace the base load power generated by Hydro and Coal Fired Power Stations?
aussie48
They have their place up to a point as we have some hydro to buffer against differences between supply and demand.

Also note that the last coal power stations built in Oz were pretty much imported as knock down kits.
  Andrewdr Locomotive Fireman

Why the need to import these components when they can be made locally in Australia?
cost - we can build some of the parts like the tower ... but with mass producing factories for the product we don't have a chance .. we lost manufacturing in AU ..
One should really ask, why are we spending money on Wind Turbines or any other form of renewables when we know that they can't replace the base load power generated by Hydro and Coal Fired Power Stations?
aussie48
Assuming you weren't trying to be funny, I suggest you read the AEMO report released this last week covering the future generation needs over the next 20 years or so.
By 2035, they forecast renewables to be supplying about 90% of the power required, with gas making up most of the remainder as dispatchable to meet peak demands.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Assuming you weren't trying to be funny, I suggest you read the AEMO report released this last week covering the future generation needs over the next 20 years or so.
By 2035, they forecast renewables to be supplying about 90% of the power required, with gas making up most of the remainder as dispatchable to meet peak demands.
Andrewdr
Do they actually state how?

Off the top of my head there is about 4-5GW or so of coal fired generating capacity built after 2000, so I'd expect them to be still operating through to 2040.

Can you post the link to the report?
  Andrewdr Locomotive Fireman

It was reported in both the ABC news and The Guardian.
A search "AEMO report July 2020" should locate it
EG http://www.theguardian.com.au -> New gas fired power not needed as renewable energy expands, grid operator says
Cheers
Andrew
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
It was reported in both the ABC news and The Guardian.
A search "AEMO report July 2020" should locate it
EG http://www.theguardian.com.au -> New gas fired power not needed as renewable energy expands, grid operator says
Cheers
Andrew
"Andrewdr"


Interesting, thanks.

FYI, Abu Dhabi recently signed a 2GW commercial solar PV project for $14/MWh, which is obviously cheap power, but its only available for  day light hours, which is when the AC units are working the hardest. However its backup by a nuclear power station that is in final stages of commissioning and will retain some gas turbine.

Dubai is doing similar with large scale solar and you can see this in google maps, including building a small pumped hydro in the mountains, but its base load will be from a coal power station (also in commissioning) and some gas.

For Australia, the challenges are not dissimilar, obviously of solar option, as well wind and the price is getting cheaper and cheaper than traditional power sources, however they do not provide a reliable 24/7/365 power supply on their own. So the price gets jacks up when you factor in the need for pumped hydro storage, battery, gas turbine plus supporting infrastructure including a far more complex HV network.  The existing hydro reserves + Snowy 2.0 and Bass link 2.0 will enable another 2, maybe 3 coal power stations to close, although not in CQ where there is high demand but a lack of suitable pumped hydro/hydro capacity. Even in SEQ there is very limited pumped hydro / hydro options. Solar thermal may effective, if the green movement don't protest their construction.

ANU's report stated Australia had almost limitless pumped hydro, but in reality its both expensive and environmentally unacceptable and few projects will ever be approved.

Overall I think there is still going to be a 5-6GW gap for which other options will need to be considered and this includes nuclear. Unfortunately most of the gap to date has actually been met through loss of industry and reduced demand and this will continue up to 2030 as Australia's remaining 4 aluminium smelters, ~2.7GW, are expected to close on the back of rising power costs.

EDIT: and this is all without factoring in EV's, 1m EV's using 30kW a day each is 30 GWh extra per day and they will mostly want to charge at night.

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