The China Problem

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

China complaining about subsidies to Australian wine producers....

Perhaps we should complain about the CCP subsidizing the production of solar panels?

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  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
China complaining about subsidies to Australian wine producers....

Perhaps we should complain about the CCP subsidizing the production of solar panels?
Carnot
It's a dick size war thing. Their complaints are bigger than our complaints.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I sincerely hope that all of the wine bottles in that photo have screw caps.
When the China supermarket is selling a $6.95 bottle of Jacobs Creek for $18.00 (rmb91.90), easy to see who is getting screwed.
justarider
If we send that much Jacob’s Creek to China I IMPLORE our government to do all it can to keep that export line open, we cannot risk all that smeg being pumped through our shelves domestically - there’ll be no room left for anything decent.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I sincerely hope that all of the wine bottles in that photo have screw caps.
When the China supermarket is selling a $6.95 bottle of Jacobs Creek for $18.00 (rmb91.90), easy to see who is getting screwed.
justarider
I wonder if the supermarkets in China are the ones pouring it out from the cask into bottles or if Jacobs Creek do a special line for the Chinese market?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
When will China really get serious and threaten Australia with iron ore contracts and not taking as much iron ore.

I don’t think wine is a big deal Australia can sell this in other countries.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I sincerely hope that all of the wine bottles in that photo have screw caps.
When the China supermarket is selling a $6.95 bottle of Jacobs Creek for $18.00 (rmb91.90), easy to see who is getting screwed.
I wonder if the supermarkets in China are the ones pouring it out from the cask into bottles or if Jacobs Creek do a special line for the Chinese market?
justapassenger
When I read this, the first thought that came to my mind was the Slurpee machine at the Kwik-E-Mart on "The Simpsons"...
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-08/bill-birtles-abc-journalist-the-moment-he-was-not-safe-in-china/12640000 an interesting insight into life in China made all the more interesting for me as i happen to know one of the people in the article!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I sincerely hope that all of the wine bottles in that photo have screw caps.
When the China supermarket is selling a $6.95 bottle of Jacobs Creek for $18.00 (rmb91.90), easy to see who is getting screwed.
I wonder if the supermarkets in China are the ones pouring it out from the cask into bottles or if Jacobs Creek do a special line for the Chinese market?
justapassenger
Penfolds have their own 'fraud unit' and apparently they're kept very, very busy stamping out fake Penfolds in China.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
When will China really get serious and threaten Australia with iron ore contracts and not taking as much iron ore.

I don’t think wine is a big deal Australia can sell this in other countries.
freightgate
They're getting around to that one. In the words of the late, great Bjelke-Petersen - don't you worry about that.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
China complaining about subsidies to Australian wine producers....

Perhaps we should complain about the CCP subsidizing the production of solar panels?
Carnot
They've been trying to send the Germans broke for years... solar panels wouldn't be nearly as cheap if it wasn't for CCP unfair trade practices.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Some disturbing events in China over the last 48 hours with regard to Australian Journalists.  A great article today in the AFR

It was well after midnight when officers from China's intelligence, security and secret police agency came knocking at my door. The heavy pounding woke me from a deep sleep and I raced downstairs thinking it must be a friend or neighbour in trouble.

Instead, six uniformed officers from the Ministry of State Security and a translator were squeezed on my front porch.

The man at the front showed me his badge, asked my name and demanded to come inside. They ushered me into my lounge room where I sat on the couch dressed in my boxer shorts surrounded by these unwelcome visitors.

One officer filmed me on a large camera that would have looked more at home in a television studio. A spotlight shone in my eyes.
AFR
This is a great read and highlights just how aggressive China is becoming towards Australia although over 70 foreign journalists have been deported from China over the past year.

https://www.afr.com/world/asia/inside-my-escape-from-china-20200908-p55ti7
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Some disturbing events in China over the last 48 hours with regard to Australian Journalists.  A great article today in the AFR

It was well after midnight when officers from China's intelligence, security and secret police agency came knocking at my door. The heavy pounding woke me from a deep sleep and I raced downstairs thinking it must be a friend or neighbour in trouble.

Instead, six uniformed officers from the Ministry of State Security and a translator were squeezed on my front porch.

The man at the front showed me his badge, asked my name and demanded to come inside. They ushered me into my lounge room where I sat on the couch dressed in my boxer shorts surrounded by these unwelcome visitors.

One officer filmed me on a large camera that would have looked more at home in a television studio. A spotlight shone in my eyes.
This is a great read and highlights just how aggressive China is becoming towards Australia although over 70 foreign journalists have been deported from China over the past year.

https://www.afr.com/world/asia/inside-my-escape-from-china-20200908-p55ti7
bevans
Yeah they're getting quite serious about quashing any dissenting sources of information, especially foreign journalists and foreign media.

The investigation into the 'dumping' of Australian wine in China is just a joke - apparently Australian wine is already very heavily regulated and taxed over there to prevent it from competing with the emerging domestic industry but now they've decided to take it a step further and take legal action on the basis of a spurious allegation.

Surely this is going to be the end of the China/Australia "free trade" Agreement?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
China has just accused Australia of hypocrisy stating we raided the homes of 3 Chinese journalists.
  brownhillboy Train Controller

When will China really get serious and threaten Australia with iron ore contracts and not taking as much iron ore.

I don’t think wine is a big deal Australia can sell this in other countries.
They're getting around to that one. In the words of the late, great Bjelke-Petersen - don't you worry about that.
don_dunstan
Yes, the huge iron ore mine and associated railway being built by the Chinese in Guinea will impact Australia in just a few years. Watch our royalties take a big hit!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
When will China really get serious and threaten Australia with iron ore contracts and not taking as much iron ore.

I don’t think wine is a big deal Australia can sell this in other countries.
They're getting around to that one. In the words of the late, great Bjelke-Petersen - don't you worry about that.
Yes, the huge iron ore mine and associated railway being built by the Chinese in Guinea will impact Australia in just a few years. Watch our royalties take a big hit!
brownhillboy
They're not quite ready to cut us off yet but they will - they've been planning for years to move iron ore extraction to their own mines in Africa but the process has been slow and hobbled by the accident in Brazil that left them unable to play us off against Vale.

Gina and Twiggy have had it far too good for far too long anyway, frankly I'm astonished that the iron ore boom has lasted as long as it has given that it's not a particularly rare commodity - it's just about the infrastructure to mine it more than anything and we (or they) were just in the right place at the right time.

Apparently there's a secret government committee consisting of representatives from Treasury and the private sector advising Frydenburg on what they want them to allow to be sold to foreigners next - you know - "investment". Because keeping the Aussie dollar artificially worth more than it should be is the main priority right now.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
Carnot
He's been too busy tweeting out about how much he hates Rupert Murdoch. Which is funny because in 2007 he actually went to New York to suck up to him prior to winning the election - once upon a time he thought he was a great guy but now apparently he's evil.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
He's been too busy tweeting out about how much he hates Rupert Murdoch. Which is funny because in 2007 he actually went to New York to suck up to him prior to winning the election - once upon a time he thought he was a great guy but now apparently he's evil.
don_dunstan
It is correct that Murdoch supported Kevin07, the reasons are as follows.
*Murdoch wanted a change in government, after all he is the ultimate adjudicator. Or
*Murdoch saw the writing on the wall and, wanted to appear to be backing the victor.

The Murdoch press is fair and balanced, in the extreme.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
He's been too busy tweeting out about how much he hates Rupert Murdoch. Which is funny because in 2007 he actually went to New York to suck up to him prior to winning the election - once upon a time he thought he was a great guy but now apparently he's evil.
It is correct that Murdoch supported Kevin07, the reasons are as follows.
*Murdoch wanted a change in government, after all he is the ultimate adjudicator. Or
*Murdoch saw the writing on the wall and, wanted to appear to be backing the victor.

The Murdoch press is fair and balanced, in the extreme.
michaelgm
I'm an adult, I can make up my own mind about what's going on. I don't need need that also-ran Kevin07 telling me Rupert is evil - not when he thought he was a great guy 14 years ago.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
He's been too busy tweeting out about how much he hates Rupert Murdoch. Which is funny because in 2007 he actually went to New York to suck up to him prior to winning the election - once upon a time he thought he was a great guy but now apparently he's evil.
It is correct that Murdoch supported Kevin07, the reasons are as follows.
*Murdoch wanted a change in government, after all he is the ultimate adjudicator. Or
*Murdoch saw the writing on the wall and, wanted to appear to be backing the victor.

The Murdoch press is fair and balanced, in the extreme.
I'm an adult, I can make up my own mind about what's going on. I don't need need that also-ran Kevin07 telling me Rupert is evil - not when he thought he was a great guy 14 years ago.
don_dunstan
Thanks, Don. You’ve excluded yourself from the flock of sheepeople who make determinations upon the opinion pieces in the likes of the terrorgraph, that many mistake as accurate news reporting.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
He's been too busy tweeting out about how much he hates Rupert Murdoch. Which is funny because in 2007 he actually went to New York to suck up to him prior to winning the election - once upon a time he thought he was a great guy but now apparently he's evil.
It is correct that Murdoch supported Kevin07, the reasons are as follows.
*Murdoch wanted a change in government, after all he is the ultimate adjudicator. Or
*Murdoch saw the writing on the wall and, wanted to appear to be backing the victor.

The Murdoch press is fair and balanced, in the extreme.
I'm an adult, I can make up my own mind about what's going on. I don't need need that also-ran Kevin07 telling me Rupert is evil - not when he thought he was a great guy 14 years ago.
Thanks, Don. You’ve excluded yourself from the flock of sheepeople who make determinations upon the opinion pieces in the likes of the terrorgraph, that many mistake as accurate news reporting.
michaelgm
And probably you believe everything they report on the ABC, Michael.

That thing was so biased in the lead up to the 2019 election that even my rusted-on stalwart Labor Party supporter friends were complaining about how one-sided it was. And yet they didn't get the result they were cheering for.

Not even one-eyed Aunty could rescue Bill Shorten from the stench that he'd created.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I would love to hear Kevin07's take on all this...
He's been too busy tweeting out about how much he hates Rupert Murdoch. Which is funny because in 2007 he actually went to New York to suck up to him prior to winning the election - once upon a time he thought he was a great guy but now apparently he's evil.
It is correct that Murdoch supported Kevin07, the reasons are as follows.
*Murdoch wanted a change in government, after all he is the ultimate adjudicator. Or
*Murdoch saw the writing on the wall and, wanted to appear to be backing the victor.

The Murdoch press is fair and balanced, in the extreme.
I'm an adult, I can make up my own mind about what's going on. I don't need need that also-ran Kevin07 telling me Rupert is evil - not when he thought he was a great guy 14 years ago.
Thanks, Don. You’ve excluded yourself from the flock of sheepeople who make determinations upon the opinion pieces in the likes of the terrorgraph, that many mistake as accurate news reporting.
And probably you believe everything they report on the ABC, Michael.

That thing was so biased in the lead up to the 2019 election that even my rusted-on stalwart Labor Party supporter friends were complaining about how one-sided it was. And yet they didn't get the result they were cheering for.

Not even one-eyed Aunty could rescue Bill Shorten from the stench that he'd created.
don_dunstan
Here you go Don.
You’ll be able to see first hand just what a light weight Aunty has become.
Scomo, Buttrose, Morris and Speers.

  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Some disturbing events in China over the last 48 hours with regard to Australian Journalists.  A great article today in the AFR

It was well after midnight when officers from China's intelligence, security and secret police agency came knocking at my door. The heavy pounding woke me from a deep sleep and I raced downstairs thinking it must be a friend or neighbour in trouble.

Instead, six uniformed officers from the Ministry of State Security and a translator were squeezed on my front porch.

The man at the front showed me his badge, asked my name and demanded to come inside. They ushered me into my lounge room where I sat on the couch dressed in my boxer shorts surrounded by these unwelcome visitors.

One officer filmed me on a large camera that would have looked more at home in a television studio. A spotlight shone in my eyes.
This is a great read and highlights just how aggressive China is becoming towards Australia although over 70 foreign journalists have been deported from China over the past year.

https://www.afr.com/world/asia/inside-my-escape-from-china-20200908-p55ti7
Yeah they're getting quite serious about quashing any dissenting sources of information, especially foreign journalists and foreign media.

The investigation into the 'dumping' of Australian wine in China is just a joke - apparently Australian wine is already very heavily regulated and taxed over there to prevent it from competing with the emerging domestic industry but now they've decided to take it a step further and take legal action on the basis of a spurious allegation.

Surely this is going to be the end of the China/Australia "free trade" Agreement?
don_dunstan
Wish they would shut you up Don. I would pay them to do so.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Yeah they're getting quite serious about quashing any dissenting sources of information, especially foreign journalists and foreign media.

The investigation into the 'dumping' of Australian wine in China is just a joke - apparently Australian wine is already very heavily regulated and taxed over there to prevent it from competing with the emerging domestic industry but now they've decided to take it a step further and take legal action on the basis of a spurious allegation.

Surely this is going to be the end of the China/Australia "free trade" Agreement?
Wish they would shut you up Don. I would pay them to do so.
nswtrains
Right back at 'ya, sunshine.

Like every lawyer I've ever met, you want the world to be exactly how you want it because you're used to getting your way with your legalese and blather.

Suck it up, Princess, I'm not going anywhere.

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