Questions that you've always been too embarrassed to ask

 
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Probably one of the best April fools jokes I've ever seen. Shame it wasn't done for real
"Dangersdan707"

I made reference to this gag in another forum, but had no access to the picture or video link. Thanks for posting those.

As hbedriver said, the Poms went spare. I still reckon it's about the best April Fool gag I ever saw. I'd love to know whose diabolical intelligence dreamed up the idea; whoever it was deserves a medal. ( I think I could name one prime suspect.)

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  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
One for all the mexicans, how do you have so many of some classes (K, J, D3 for example) preserved but so little of so many other classes (S, X, N, H)

Note-Steam locomotives
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
One for all the mexicans, how do you have so many of some classes (K, J, D3 for example) preserved but so little of so many other classes (S, X, N, H)
DCook
For starters, there two groups; operational locos, and preserved static units.
With the exception of the S class, every other one on your list has at least one static exhibit preserved. The four S class were summarily scrapped in an act of gross official vandalism, said to have been because the B class diesels were inferior in performance on the Spirit of Progress to the S steamers.
Next; there's only one H anyway, and it survives. DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, ASK WHY IT CANNOT BE MADE OPERATIONAL OR GAUGE-CONVERTED! It can't; it won't, and we've been through it a million times.

Operational locos depended upon availability; you got what you could after fighting your way past the scrappers' torches. R class and J class were relatively new, K's were so reliable that there were several of them available, and some determined groups managed to rebuild a D3 and, more recently, an A2.

Others will no doubt be able to add more detail.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Another consideration might have been the usefulness of the locos which were kept operational. The K, J, D3 could be turned on a 53' turntable, whereas the N could not.  Although having said that, the VR withdrew the N class before the K and J.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

Reason the branch line locos survived longer was the early diesels were mainline types. The 26 members of the B class took over nearly all main line passenger workings, often returning on a fast goods. Easy to get rid of the 4 S, the 52 C/X and the H. The early T and the S diesels then got rid of the A2 and R classes. Branch line locos came later with more S, T and later X and Y classes.

Don’t forget the W class diesels, so dreadfully unreliable they had to keep steam for Shunters for several more years. Hence ten or so of each class of K, J and D3 survivors. Even in the mid to late 1960’s they were re-boilering K classes, too good a loco to get rid of
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Even in the mid to late 1960’s they were re-boilering K classes, too good a loco to get rid of.
"hbedriver"
My youthful experience would seem to bear this out. When we were driving on holidays, we always had our eyes peeled for trains. It could be Gippsland or any branches like Alexandra/Yea, Daylesford etc etc and if there was a goods train, you could just about bet your socks that it would have a K on the smoky end.
Mark you, there was absolutely nothing to beat the sight of either H220 or an X on the main north east, pounding along with a mixed goods. Ah, nostalgia!
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

the VR steam S class Pacific's were scrapped as they were beyond repair, and that is according to a fitter who worked on them at Seymour,

Regards, Radioman
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
the VR steam S class Pacific's were scrapped as they were beyond repair, and that is according to a fitter who worked on them at Seymour.
"Radioman"
Certainly all four of them would have needed a massive amount of work to keep them running and it was economically unrealistic to do so. I did comment above that it was, "said to have been because the B class diesels were inferior in performance on the Spirit of Progress to the S steamers." I should have emphasized "said to have been" because it was one of the hundreds or thousands of railway rumours which have surfaced over the years. The B was, of course, perfectly adequate.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

How much spare capacity is there on the SG between North Geelong and Melbourne? Obviously, the half-completed MBRP has already generated extra Melbourne-bound traffic to conflict with Western Line traffic and Geelong-bound grain from the NE. This will increase if the MBRP is completed as planned (although ease the load between Gheringhap and Ararat). At what point, if any, will the line require duplication?

PS: Don't mention The Overland.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
With the new what appears from photos 'roller coaster' Frankston line what effects does this have on train handling of the Long Island steel trains?
  WimbledonW Train Controller

Location: Sydney
Does anyone have a pic of the cane tramway that uses a miniature Russian SA3 coupler? The pic should be made in sunshine rather than in the shade, so that the parts are visible.
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
With the new what appears from photos 'roller coaster' Frankston line what effects does this have on train handling of the Long Island steel trains?
YM-Mundrabilla
None really. Steel trains are restricted to 40 km/hr between Caulfield and Mordialloc.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
With the new what appears from photos 'roller coaster' Frankston line what effects does this have on train handling of the Long Island steel trains?
None really. Steel trains are restricted to 40 km/hr between Caulfield and Mordialloc.
Fatty
Thanks Fatty.
I am not a driver nor do I know the 'revised road/roller coaster' but does this mean that you may get stretches and run ins at the same time? Or are the hills and dales further apart than what they appear from the few photos.
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Thanks Fatty.
I am not a driver nor do I know the 'revised road/roller coaster' but does this mean that you may get stretches and run ins at the same time? Or are the hills and dales further apart than what they appear from the few photos.
YM-Mundrabilla

The new stations are in pretty steep drops but generally through that section you'd be braking on the down through Cheltenham as it's a reasonable drop from Southland to Mentone. If you're using dynamic brake the train is bunched as you go through the dips and you continue braking to keep it bunched. On the up it's similar but you might use a little nip of brake to keep the train stretched to prevent run in through the dips.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks Fatty.
I am not a driver nor do I know the 'revised road/roller coaster' but does this mean that you may get stretches and run ins at the same time? Or are the hills and dales further apart than what they appear from the few photos.

The new stations are in pretty steep drops but generally through that section you'd be braking on the down through Cheltenham as it's a reasonable drop from Southland to Mentone. If you're using dynamic brake the train is bunched as you go through the dips and you continue braking to keep it bunched. On the up it's similar but you might use a little nip of brake to keep the train stretched to prevent run in through the dips.
Fatty
Thanks Comrade.
Thankfully not 1,500 metre trains! Laughing
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Does anyone have a pic of the cane tramway that uses a miniature Russian SA3 coupler? The pic should be made in sunshine rather than in the shade, so that the parts are visible.
WimbledonW
Are these different from the Willison couplers which have been in use at various mills for some time?
  WimbledonW Train Controller

Location: Sydney
Does anyone have a pic of the cane tramway that uses a miniature Russian SA3 coupler? The pic should be made in sunshine rather than in the shade, so that the parts are visible.
Are these different from the Willison couplers which have been in use at various mills for some time?
duttonbay
I think that Willison is just another name for SA3. Mr Willison is the original inventor.

This is confirmed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA3_coupler

It is not clear which coupler, AAR Alliance versus SA3, is "stronger? Russian trains are not as heavy as NSW, Pilbara trains, etc.

I think that the key difference is as follows:

AAR: couples the right handed "fingers on a wrist" so that the are delicate bits carrying the force.
SA3: couples the left hands "around the wrist", and the delicate bits do not carry the heavy drawgear forces.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Does anyone have a pic of the cane tramway that uses a miniature Russian SA3 coupler? The pic should be made in sunshine rather than in the shade, so that the parts are visible.
Are these different from the Willison couplers which have been in use at various mills for some time?
I think that Willison is just another name for SA3. Willison is the original inventor.
WimbledonW
Right - I can find photos showing Willison couplers on cane bins - will try and find some in sunshine (although that would mean the bits in the shade would be dark - I always think that when looking at gubbins which are down low, having them in the shade, so the lighting is more even, works better)
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
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Links in case pics are not working...

http://pilbararailways.com.au/images/r130622_0077.jpg
http://pilbararailways.com.au/images/r130622_0079.jpg
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Okay Doky, Some questions for the hivemind.

Were Any of the Various 3'6 Steam locos (minus the SAR 400s) designed to be converted to SG? CR, WAGR, QR and SAR and so on.

Has an RX class ever ventured into Victoria?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Okay Doky, Some questions for the hivemind.

Were Any of the Various 3'6 Steam locos (minus the SAR 400s) designed to be converted to SG? CR, WAGR, QR and SAR and so on.

Has an RX class ever ventured into Victoria?
Dangersdan707
From wiki. Always liked these.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAGR_V_class
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Okay Doky, Some questions for the hivemind.

Were Any of the Various 3'6 Steam locos (minus the SAR 400s) designed to be converted to SG? CR, WAGR, QR and SAR and so on.

Has an RX class ever ventured into Victoria?
Dangersdan707
Don't know about SG but were there not some SAR T class on BG?
It would be interesting to know some details of how this was done.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
What happened to the much publicised (politicised?) plan to produce squillions of plastic sleepers from recycled Coke bottles etc in Victoria?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
What happened to the much publicised (politicised?) plan to produce squillions of plastic sleepers from recycled Coke bottles etc in Victoria?
"YM-Mundrabilla"
One might suggest that the sleepers plan is sleeping with its ancestors.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Okay Doky, Some questions for the hivemind.

Were Any of the Various 3'6 Steam locos (minus the SAR 400s) designed to be converted to SG? CR, WAGR, QR and SAR and so on.

Has an RX class ever ventured into Victoria?
Don't know about SG but there were there not some SAR T class on BG?
It would be interesting to know some details of how this was done.
YM-Mundrabilla
There were on the proper gauge and they were Reclassed as TX, the one preserved at Peterborough was once on of them. What I know was done iirc (aside from new Axels and Bogies) were spacers outside the frames, New Smokebox and Cab, New Cowcatcher, couplers and Runningboard? (some one-else can nitpick the photos and records!) Probably possible to Convert to SG with if the Will or money was there.

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