Grain Harvest 2020-21

 
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Regarding the reopening of the Inglewood - Eaglehawk line, who exactly has dropped the ball on this one? RPV? V/Line? The freight carriers themselves?

Who needs to be lobbying the government to fund this project? Funding for shovel ready projects is being handed out left right and centre at the moment, yet this no brainer of a job seems to be repeatedly ignored.
Gman_86
Responsible Ministers for getting a rocket under this one are Melissa Horne as Minister for Freight & Ports and Minister for Transport Infrastructure in Jacinta Allan. Given Bendigo is her own bailawick one would think the option of also extending passenger services to Marong / Bridgewater would be another reason to support re-opening. The reality is even if MB full standardization were green light today we are facing two grain harvests well above average. So it is an absolute NO BRAINER not to re-open Inglewood  Eaglehawk to a fit for purpose 40 - 50 kmh freight speed NOW  so as to realize :
(i) thousands of totally avoidable road truck grain movements over at least two grain seasons
(ii) allowing 100 export containers a week ex Bridgewater to again use rail at lower cost
(iii) to allow for medium term extension of VLP passenger services to Marong and possibly Bridgewater.

If and when we ever learn of what the Government plans for completion of Murray Basin standardization then the ultimate configuration of Inglewood  Eaglehawk can be decided.  

Many people wrongly paint this as a choice of either full MB standardization as originally planned, or Manangatang/Sea Lake stay as broad gauge with Inglewood  Eaglehawk re-opened.

This is politicians playing politics and "gotcha" tactics.

The issue is to get more freight on rail and that is certainly achieved short term by re-opening Inglewood  Eaglehawk, the ultimate configuration of that section as bg, sg or partially dg can be determined in due course and is a secondary following issue. The line is 47kg rail in fair to good condition affordably re-suscitated now with demonstated daily freight traffic all year round, and offering new freight and passenger opportunities in the medium term. Again a NO BRAINER - just get on with it BUT make sure we use gauge convertible sleepers (Wood) in the tie renewals to get it up and running again . Potentially a ten week job, so we need to get moving NOW so grain trains can start using it Southbound from early January 2021 and the container traffic ex Bridgewater attached to the existing Ultima intermodal train from early 2021 also. Plus creates short term jobs and material acquisition for the Bendigo region.  WIN more freight on rail on-going, WIN export containers on rail, WIN potential passenger extension to Marong, WIN local post cono job creation Bendigo area. MIA  Government action, and we do NOT need to waste taxpayers $ on yet another business case - Bill Hayden's  "drovers dog" can see this a winner both short, medium and longer term however the ultimate gauge configuration turns out. Potentially a very valuable restoration to the cross country freight networkl for only around $ 30m approx.

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  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
(ii) allowing 100 export containers a week ex Bridgewater to again use rail at lower cost

(iii) to allow for medium term extension of VLP passenger services to Marong and possibly Bridgewater.
kuldalai
A good summary kuldalai, are or would the company be interested in changing their mode of transport or are you just pointing out that their is extra loading if it can be captured for rail. If they are currently loading semi's well I guess they can just as easy load rail wagons. I assume they would have to run their road transport contract out, first.

And yes, with the addition of a possible extension of passenger services, it certainly adds weight to the project.

BigShunter.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

(ii) allowing 100 export containers a week ex Bridgewater to again use rail at lower cost

(iii) to allow for medium term extension of VLP passenger services to Marong and possibly Bridgewater.
A good summary kuldalai, are or would the company be interested in changing their mode of transport or are you just pointing out that their is extra loading if it can be captured for rail. If they are currently loading semi's well I guess they can just as easy load rail wagons. I assume they would have to run their road transport contract out, first.

And yes, with the addition of a possible extension of passenger services, it certainly adds weight to the project.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Average of 100 export containers a week to the Port of Melbourne as an attachment to the existing Ultima intermoadal train re-routed via Bridgewater on a shorter faster more direct overnight route to Melbourne. So firstup the existing train running cost is less account reduced kms, plus attach 10 extra wagons a day to an existing train at Bridgewater then the extra train running cost has to be marginal so whoever runs the train (Qube ???) should be able to offer a very attractive rate - indeed a Godfather rate - an offer too good to refuse !!!! Plus huge yard at Bridgewater and potential low cost hard stand. Say mainline and retain # 2 road for crossing trains, and # 4 Road sufficient length to hold 20 - 25  flats . Up Ultima picks up loaded wagons early evening and Down Ultima drops off MT's early morning which are loaded during the day in # 4 road . Very efficient use of existing assets, extra revenue at marginal cost from initially a low cost fit for purpose loading facility.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Looks like it's belted down across the Wimmera today and now the heavy stuff is heading up towards the Mallee.

Can you have too much rain at this point of the harvest or is it all good?

Looking at you @jamesau and Shunter!
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Most of Northern and Western Vic has had a drier than normal Winter and rain was needed. Creeks around here stopped running which is unusual for September.

Many areas barely got anything this weekend and some crops are getting stressed for lack of rain. So finishing rains in the next month would be good.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Apparently a bit of frost damage in the Mallee, more than just oats and vetch being cut.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Looks like it's belted down across the Wimmera today and now the heavy stuff is heading up towards the Mallee.

Can you have too much rain at this point of the harvest or is it all good?

Looking at you @jamesau and Shunter!
BrentonGolding
Take as much as you can get in the spring, for grain crops, tends to stuff the hay though, especially oaten.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Looks like it's belted down across the Wimmera today and now the heavy stuff is heading up towards the Mallee.

Can you have too much rain at this point of the harvest or is it all good?

Looking at you @jamesau and Shunter!
BrentonGolding
Yes wobert has more or less drilled it, I was keeping a keep eye on the radar last night but with the results out today on BOM, nothing too torrential but this time of year take everything you can get, it all helps and really if the crop has any green colour to it, it's going to put any moisture to good use.

Couple of mates at Cavendish 47ml, just south of Horsham back to 30 - 35, the highway and north 16 to 20, Jeparit 12, W,nabeal 10, Donald, Wyche, Charlton 6-7 to 10, even over at Ultima 8, Hopetoun 9, out at Walpeup 9, on the road out to Renmark 6, Annuello just south of Robinvale 6, small amounts but at this time of year crucial to help finish the crops off and can be the difference between a good harvest and very good. So all up for western vic quite a good result for the farming / cropping dept's and their coming harvest and probably giving Jacinta a bigger headache for the coming grain season that's going to require transportation.  

BigShunter.

too much rain = netherby pub roof is leaking & spouts are overflowing .........Razz
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
Some very promising totals foretasted for the following week statewide and just as importantly, across most of SA, NSW and SW QLD. Hopefully will give any stressed crops a much needed drink and serve as solid follow up rain o last weeks falls, particularly in VIC.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/watl/rainfall/pme.jsp
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Yes, more to come apparently.

Best I get some blood and bone onto the garden.



Mike.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I get the impression the grain companies are busy clearing out and making space at a lot of their storage sites in Western Vic at present in preparation for the harvest.  Qube have been running their SG rack back and forth between Geelong and the Wimmera.  Birchip has been busy, and there's been quite a few BG SSR and PN trains lately to Manangatang, Sea Lake, Quambatook, and Berriwillock.

Rain this weekend if it eventuates will be useful.  Still no word on Inglewood-Eaglehawk line.  I'm thinking something might be announced after the Federal Budget on Oct 6.  Either that or it'll be a conga line of trucks, sadly.
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Some very promising totals foretasted for the following week statewide and just as importantly, across most of SA, NSW and SW QLD. Hopefully will give any stressed crops a much needed drink and serve as solid follow up rain o last weeks falls, particularly in VIC.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/watl/rainfall/pme.jsp
cbinyon

Do PN have enough sets for SG work in southern NSW with the recent rain i assume that area is also looking promising?
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Pacific National's G524 and G543 made a rare appearance in the daylight passing the disconnected and abandoned silo road at Llanelly this morning with 9149 empties from North Geelong to Berriwillock.

Video available at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqNjsYcHQ5g&feature=youtu.be
  Maximas Station Master

Location: Geelong
Yes, more to come apparently.

Best I get some blood and bone onto the garden.

Mike.
The Vinelander
What have you planted?
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Yes, more to come apparently.

Best I get some blood and bone onto the garden.

Mike.
What have you planted?
Maximas
Mary Jane
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
I get the impression the grain companies are busy clearing out and making space at a lot of their storage sites in Western Vic at present in preparation for the harvest.  Qube have been running their SG rack back and forth between Geelong and the Wimmera.  Birchip has been busy, and there's been quite a few BG SSR and PN trains lately to Manangatang, Sea Lake, Quambatook, and Berriwillock.

Rain this weekend if it eventuates will be useful.  Still no word on Inglewood-Eaglehawk line.  I'm thinking something might be announced after the Federal Budget on Oct 6.  Either that or it'll be a conga line of trucks, sadly.
Carnot
What are the lengths of the two tracks at Dunolly? Could the BG track be made dual gauge as well as the main line and enable a cross regardless of gauge? Could they also dual gauge the roads at Maryborough as a quick fix for this upcoming harvest?
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Check the "donaldweatherstation" on Instagram to check out the crop growth this year.
Photos from the same spot in July, August & now and then each year in Mid September 2016 - 2020.
Looking good for a good year again.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Looks like it's belted down across the Wimmera today and now the heavy stuff is heading up towards the Mallee.

Can you have too much rain at this point of the harvest or is it all good?

Looking at you @jamesau and Shunter!
BrentonGolding
Im not 100% sure for Western Vic but i think it should be ok.  For Southern NSW no problem unless it was hard and has smashed the plants into the ground which makes harvest a bit of a slower task.

For SNSW, most crops should have flowered and set the grain though some may still be doing so. Rainfall from now on is needed to help transfer the nutrients that the plant has accumulated in its leaves and stems etc and get them into the grain.

Its probably mid to late October that is where rain becomes problematic.  Though even then a quick hit of rain isnt a problem, just the slow drenching ones with humidity which start the seeds on the germination journey.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Two BG locos have headed to Ballarat via Gheringhap https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2190900.htm#2190900 perhaps for grain duties?

SSR were also taking on fuel last night at Gheringhap https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2190898.htm#2190898
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Two BG locos have headed to Ballarat via Gheringhap https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2190900.htm#2190900 perhaps for grain duties?

SSR were also taking on fuel last night at Gheringhap https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2190898.htm#2190898
bevans
PN BG ex-Berriwillock failed near Dunolly.  BL29-G529 on International Rescue duties.

SSR SG grainy is loading at Birchip apparently.
  GheringhapLoop GEEWONG

Location: Gheringhap Vic 3331
Two BG locos have headed to Ballarat via Gheringhap https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2190900.htm#2190900 perhaps for grain duties?

SSR were also taking on fuel last night at Gheringhap https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2190898.htm#2190898
PN BG ex-Berriwillock failed near Dunolly.  BL29-G529 on International Rescue duties.

SSR SG grainy is loading at Birchip apparently.
Carnot
Might be G524(FA)+G543(FA) which went up on 9149?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Yes, more to come apparently.

Best I get some blood and bone onto the garden.

Mike.
What have you planted?
Mary Jane
wobert

Nothing so sinister for the roses. BTW Mary Jane doesn't grow very well in Ballan...outside of a hot house that is. Smile

Mike.
  GheringhapLoop GEEWONG

Location: Gheringhap Vic 3331
returned as 9148 up B/G at Gheringhap 18/9/20200 with G529+BL29+G543+G524

  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
A busy day in the Victorian central goldfields with two four loco lash-ups on two different grain trains from two different operators.

First up was Pacific National who, due to the failure of G524 between Dunolly and Tarnagulla and the rescue effort from BL29 and G529 saw 9148 loaded grain from Berriwillock pass through Dunolly with G529 leading BL29, G543 and G524 while SSR followed later in the day on the Standard Gauge with 7792V from Birchip to Ararat hauled by GM22, 48s35, 48s34 and G514 seen climbing into St. Arnaud, at Havelock and departing Maryborough. Upon arrival at Ararat, this train continued on to Maldon NSW running as 6KV7.

Trains seen in order are:
9148- G529, BL29, G543 and G524
7792V- GM22, 48s35, 48s34 and G514



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=996KNNWjL_g&feature=youtu.be
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Yes, more to come apparently.

Best I get some blood and bone onto the garden.

Mike.
What have you planted?
Mary Jane

Nothing so sinister for the roses. BTW Mary Jane doesn't grow very well in Ballan...outside of a hot house that is. Smile

Mike.
The Vinelander
Just planted another 4 myself, what a long drawn out process getting hold of them was.

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