W6 Class No. 1000

 
  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

Just wondering if anyone knows if W6 Class tram No. 1000 is still operating on the City Circle route.

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  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

All W-class, other than those upgraded to W8, were banned from the network about October 2018. That included the Colonial Tramcar Restaurant trams. W6.1000 was sighted parked in the western sidings at Southbank in December 2018. It was sighted, along with one of the restaurant trams, in March 2019 parked at Preston but had disappeared by April.

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11398638-s25.htm

VicSig has it listed (as of August 2019) as ‘Currently Under Construction in Bendigo’, which presumably means it is being upgraded to W8-class.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Apart from strengthened cabs, what else is involved in the upgrade?  Vicsig isn't so clear on that.  Could anyone elaborate further?
  M636C Minister for Railways

Apart from strengthened cabs, what else is involved in the upgrade?  Vicsig isn't so clear on that.  Could anyone elaborate further?
route14
The original control equipment was replaced by thyristor chopper equipment but the original traction motors were retained. I think the cabs were air conditioned and new LED headlights are fitted.

The cab floor is raised to the level of the cabin floor which makes it stronger in the case of a collision.

Peter
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Does it mean they'll lose their characteristic stepped acceleration?  Something that gunzels will miss.  LED seems to be the new standard when it comes to life extension programmes.  Don't know about how the colour tone will match the tram though.
  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

Thanks for the information.
  Matthew Chief Train Controller

Thanks for the information.
Spletsie

A while back, Bendgo posted a timelapse of a W8 rebuid. It's extensive. Almost a new tram built within the envelope of the old one. There wasn't much that wasn't replaced or enhanced.

Probably would have been quicker and cheaper for Bendigo to build new W8 cars from scratch!
  route14 Chief Commissioner

One of the enthusiastic restaurant drivers once asked an engineer at Preston Workshop "Why can't we build a brand new W class?" The answer he got was "We've lost the plan."
  Matthew Chief Train Controller

One of the enthusiastic restaurant drivers once asked an engineer at Preston Workshop "Why can't we build a brand new W class?" The answer he got was "We've lost the plan."
route14

I suspect there are more than enough drawings in the archives to coble something togther if there was the will.

However, I suspect if you built a new 'replica car', you would have to apply for a DDA exeception for it. One action group filing an objection would sink the program. They would be required to build a fully accessible tourist car.

By 'rebuilding' an existing car, it's simply a safety upgrade of an existing car. Even if not much is left of the orginal by the time they are finished.

I have seen a modern Flexity derivative styled to look some what like a 'heritage car'. While it's shape and colour what some one remiscent of a 50s bogie car, it was 100% low floor. Bombarlier probably charged a pretty hefty price for the modification to the platform to get the 'heritage' look.

The East Germans became experts at these sorts of 'rebuilds'. Under offical Eastern Block rules, the Germans had to abandon their tram rollingstock industry and buy trams from the Czech's. They would take cars into the workshops and they would come out completely 'rebuilt'. As a result of needing to keep this pretense that they were just overhauling cars, they kept turimng out quite primative single truck vehicals quite late. (It would have been a bit hard to explain away a short single truck motor car coming out as a long bogie car!)
The Sydney Tramway Museum's Berlin TZ69 cars are an example of these - built in 1969 to an old design but holding the serial number of a much older car. Offically it was a rebuild of the old car, not a new build.

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