The corona virus COVID-19

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
SA has just closed its border with NSW. Too bad if you went to Sydney for Xmas, now you have to go into 14 days quarantine on coming back.

This thing is going to drag on and on isn't it...

Victoria has just closed it's borders to NSW.  This is going to get a lot worse as we all know.

Damn.
Too late as usual. Borders should have reclosed at least a week ago. I don't want another disastrous lockdown.
Why are some mass gatherings allowed in NSW (ie the cricket) but the harbor fireworks now banned? I don't get the way they decide that an aerosol kind of disease like flu or COVID is going to be fine to see a cricket match but not a fireworks display -
don_dunstan
That does seem a bit questionable yes, but there is still 7 days to go until the test, if the infection rate really goes south, they will make the appropriate decisions going forward.

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  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
SA has just closed its border with NSW. Too bad if you went to Sydney for Xmas, now you have to go into 14 days quarantine on coming back.

This thing is going to drag on and on isn't it...

Victoria has just closed it's borders to NSW.  This is going to get a lot worse as we all know.

Damn.
Too late as usual. Borders should have reclosed at least a week ago. I don't want another disastrous lockdown.
Why are some mass gatherings allowed in NSW (ie the cricket) but the harbor fireworks now banned? I don't get the way they decide that an aerosol kind of disease like flu or COVID is going to be fine to see a cricket match but not a fireworks display -
don_dunstan
Why? Because Gladys is too timid to decide otherwise.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

This all (re)started because returned overseas travellers are infecting the general populace. Best to fly them into Commonwealth facilities like Woomera or Darwin, quarantine them, and then release back into general population. We will keep making this mistake, if we don't learn -vaccine or not. Listen to the experts.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
This is exactly why we need to be strict, and not listen to the likes of Don who claim the only damage is the death of a bunch of pathetic oldies.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/image-that-sums-up-uk-covid-catastrophe/news-story/46fba8687d3ed052440c7b812cd84c7d
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
This is exactly why we need to be strict, and not listen to the likes of Don who claim the only damage is the death of a bunch of pathetic oldies.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/image-that-sums-up-uk-covid-catastrophe/news-story/46fba8687d3ed052440c7b812cd84c7d
billybaxter
Also a republican senator died in the U.S from it yesterday, he was 41 with no underlying health issues, ah but it only affects geriatrics Rolling EyesRolling Eyes - Luke Letlow: Congressman-elect dies after battling Covid-19 - CNNPolitics
  doyle Deputy Commissioner

11.58 11.59 11.60 the year continues...
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Victoria has just closed it's borders to NSW.  This is going to get a lot worse as we all know.

Damn.
bevans

There's that errant apostrophe again.

M.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Just a question for someone who can work out the workings of the DHHS.

When you come from the Green Zone in NSW you have to have a Covid test & isolate for 14 days, yet if you were at the Thai restaurant that the infected person was at, you need to do the test & isolate until you get a negative result.

Following the science ...

Edit:  The Swan Hill Covid testing station is closed today.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The mad and dangerous rush to the border instigated by our tyrannical premier could leave many Vics stranded in NSW for goodness knows how long?
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

This is going to get interesting very quick. How many thousands are not going to make it to the border by tonight, you know, all the ones that finally went on holidays when restriction were eased and now need to go back to work?
  doyle Deputy Commissioner

Probably should of holidayed in their own states, support our own

Not practical for everyone I know
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
"Here in Victoria we have the government saying 'don't go to the city for New Year's Eve' and the Cow from the Council saying 'come and eat'.

Masks at the ready!

Yeah Nah I don't get it either,
I am suitably outraged though
doyle
We've had the same mixed message rubbish here in SA - after the bushfires earlier this year it was "come to the regions, they need your tourism" - then when COVID hit it was "don't come here, we don't need your COVID"... then it was "come back we need you" again.

Our own Premier Marshall appeared confused about what was going on when he announced the travel ban from Sydney yesterday. I honestly don't want to get caught in Melbourne if I go to Victoria to visit family, and I also don't want to be in a mad rush to get back to the border before they close it. Don't they get that this is creating safety issues in itself?
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
...and then we have this ridiculous situation of people from Victoria (with what is it - ten new cases?) being turned around in Western Australia and made to go home - and the decision being retrospective ABC News;

Victoria was yesterday re-classified as a "medium-risk" state, meaning anyone arriving into WA from midnight last night will need to undergo a 14-day quarantine period, and get a COVID test on day 11.

The hard border was also backdated to December 21, so Victorian travellers already in WA would need to quarantine until that 14-day period is up.

The move has resulted in a rush of people opting to depart WA, rather than stay in self-isolation.

Victorian woman Cathy White, who has been in Perth since December 23, said she would rather go home than be forced into isolation.

"We were spending time with our grandchildren," Ms White said. "But [WA Premier Mark] McGowan has closed the border and I'm not spending the next six days in quarantine.

"So I'll be going home and I don't know that I'll be coming back. I'm pissed off."

Ms White said she believed the decision to close the border was "ridiculous" and motivated by politics.

Thanks for wasting the time and money of all those people, Premier McGowan!
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
This all (re)started because returned overseas travellers are infecting the general populace. Best to fly them into Commonwealth facilities like Woomera or Darwin, quarantine them, and then release back into general population. We will keep making this mistake, if we don't learn -vaccine or not. Listen to the experts.
ANR
Won't work as all it does is put a large group of people in close contact with each other and the virus will run rampant and it will be months before anyone is out. So basically the whole relocation program returning Ozzies comes to a standstill.

The problem is Australia and NZ are one of the few country's that don't require a PCR negative test prior to flying. Until this simple effective concept can be jammed through the thick sculls of those in power then the situation will not change.

Looking at the ABC website numbers, about 8000 people return to Australia each week and those entering the country with the bug can be as high as a few percent. Despite the fact te planes are mostly empty, you cannot fly 50-80 people for 12 - 16 h and expect the virus not to be transmitted, especially in BC and FC which is mostly full. At least the few bodies in EC is generally spread out, but they still use the same toilets.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
...and then we have this ridiculous situation of people from Victoria (with what is it - ten new cases?) being turned around in Western Australia and made to go home - and the decision being retrospective
don_dunstan
So how many cases should trigger such an action. As I'm no medical expert I certainly don't know but it's reassuring to know so many keyboard warriors do. Razz
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
...and then we have this ridiculous situation of people from Victoria (with what is it - ten new cases?) being turned around in Western Australia and made to go home - and the decision being retrospective
So how many cases should trigger such an action. As I'm no medical expert I certainly don't know but it's reassuring to know so many keyboard warriors do. Razz
Groundrelay
You obviously think it was a good move on behalf of the WA government to put visiting Victorians on a plane straight back home again (and make it retro-dated to the 21st of December).

You're as much of a 'keyboard warrior' as anyone else here for agreeing with it.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
What I do find hard to believe is that the kneejerk reactions by some of our leaders because of such small case numbers, don't get me wrong, if the case numbers are very high, I'm all for whatever needs to be done, but such small case numbers it makes no sense whatsoever for the leaders of Victoria/QLD/WA/NT/SA  to do what they are doing to NSW, Don-Dunstan is partially correct when he says we all have to learn to live with this, it isn't going anywhere soon!!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Victoria's very responsible and caring Health Department forces thousands of tired Victorians in NSW to drive non-stop to the border in an effort to get across before midnight - News.com.au;

Victoria's border with New South Wales slammed shut at midnight, barring entry to anyone who didn't make it there in time.

Vehicles arriving at border checkpoints after the deadline were turned around by police and instructed to return to NSW.

Yesterday Jeroen Weimar, the Victorian Health Department’s COVID-19 response commander, justified the state’s hardline stance.

“We need to close the border, because we do not wish to continue to import high-risk COVID cases back into Victoria,” Mr Weimar said.

“We do not think that would be right or fair for the Victorian community.

“We do not have the capacity to put hundreds of people into hotel quarantine because they elected to come home late.

“If there are people who’ve gone to NSW, we did not design and set up a hotel quarantine system to enable people who’ve gone on holidays in NSW to come back a bit later.”

However, some people rushing to the border last night had travelled from as far away as Queensland.

No consideration for the public risk to other people on NSW roads of these people trying desperately to get back to Victoria before the border shuts.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
What I do find hard to believe is that the kneejerk reactions by some of our leaders because of such small case numbers, don't get me wrong, if the case numbers are very high, I'm all for whatever needs to be done, but such small case numbers it makes no sense whatsoever for the leaders of Victoria/QLD/WA/NT/SA  to do what they are doing to NSW, Don-Dunstan is partially correct when he says we all have to learn to live with this, it isn't going anywhere soon!!
lsrailfan

The decisions are made by the health authorities  who are qualified to make these decisions. Not that other contrary, Andrew Bolt wannabe who 'contributes' to these pages who knows jack about how decisions are made and conjures up responses on the premise that if it's contrary to the evidence and knowledge of the professionals who make these calls then that contributor has to be correct.

Mike.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

10 new locally acquired cases in Vic overnight.  I wonder what will happen now?
  doyle Deputy Commissioner

Could someone explain to me please
How is it that in Sydney they have tested thousands and only found 3 cases
But here in Victoria they tested about 18000 and found 10 more cases
This doesn't sound right to me
is gladys and NSW health lying or under reporting or nsw is just not finding them

I'm just not getting this
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
It’s because 5G in NSW is on a different frequency.
  doyle Deputy Commissioner

Can't wait for 6G then
  doyle Deputy Commissioner

7 cases out of 34000 tests
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
What I do find hard to believe is that the kneejerk reactions by some of our leaders because of such small case numbers, don't get me wrong, if the case numbers are very high, I'm all for whatever needs to be done, but such small case numbers it makes no sense whatsoever for the leaders of Victoria/QLD/WA/NT/SA  to do what they are doing to NSW, Don-Dunstan is partially correct when he says we all have to learn to live with this, it isn't going anywhere soon!!

The decisions are made by the health authorities  who are qualified to make these decisions. Not that other contrary, Andrew Bolt wannabe who 'contributes' to these pages who knows jack about how decisions are made and conjures up responses on the premise that if it's contrary to the evidence and knowledge of the professionals who make these calls then that contributor has to be correct.

Mike.
The Vinelander
LOL the very same 'experts' who signed off on Chairman Dan's hotel quarantine program that led to 800 deaths - eh Mike? Because these people know absolutely everything there is to know about their fields and should never, ever be questioned under any circumstances... I mean look how well everything went in Victoria. Right?

You're just trying on your best lemony school-mistress because someone said I was RIGHT and that this thing isn't going anywhere any time soon. Ohhh, the agony!

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