Californian Bacon Crisis

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I would've voted yes for improving animal welfare too.  Interesting to see if pig farmers adapt:

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I take leave to doubt that this is a "crisis".
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I take leave to doubt that this is a "crisis".
Valvegear
Down you way I guess it would entirely depend on whether or not you favour Bacon with your smashed avo on toast Laughing
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I take leave to doubt that this is a "crisis".
Down you way I guess it would entirely depend on whether or not you favour Bacon with your smashed avo on toast Laughing
BrentonGolding
The Hipster Cafe Apocalypse....

Anyway, at least those that try to source their bacon and pulled pork from the more expensive farms where pigs can actually turn around in their pens will survive.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
YM-Mundrabilla
One packet could be 100% Aussie bacon, the next 4 packets could be 100% Chinese with no idea of the location it came from.  Luck of the draw.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
YM-Mundrabilla
Bizarre. Almost a candidate for here,

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11386297.htm
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Anything that might stop me from having access to affordable bacon is a crisis! Laughing
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
One packet could be 100% Aussie bacon, the next 4 packets could be 100% Chinese with no idea of the location it came from.  Luck of the draw.
Carnot
Are you a politician or a spin doctor Carnot?
You would seem admirably qualified to be either (or even both, perhaps)! SmileSmile
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
I like this California move. Animals deserve a decent life
  doyle Chief Commissioner

A fully grown pig is roughly half the weight of a fully grown rhino
Hope this helps
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Doyle,
It would help if it was in the weights & measures thread.   We only want actual weight in this one.  ????
  doyle Chief Commissioner

I wasn't sure how many short cut slices.... sh it still wrong thread
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
A fully grown pig is roughly half the weight of a fully grown rhino
Hope this helps
doyle
So how many fully grown pigs does a Melbourne tram weigh? Cause they are measured in Rhinos IIRC

Oh shiz, sorry, still the wrong thread.......
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
A fully grown pig is roughly half the weight of a fully grown rhino
Hope this helps
doyle
And how to calculate the weight of the said pig. Razz

Using the measurements from steps 1 and 2, calculate body weight using the formula HEART GIRTH x HEART GIRTH x BODY LENGTH / 400 = ANIMAL WEIGHT IN POUNDS. For example, if an adult pig has a heart girth equal to 45 inches and a body length equal to 54 inches, the calculation would be (45 x 45 x 54) / 400 = 273 lbs.

Ohh Basta&%......... the thread

BigShunter.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Well how many MCG' is that?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
If you ever saw the AFL game where a painted pig was let loose on the oval when St Kilda was playing, with Tony Lockett at full forward, you'd know that pigs are measured in "Pluggers".
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
If you ever saw the AFL game where a painted pig was let loose on the oval when St Kilda was playing, with Tony Lockett at full forward, you'd know that pigs are measured in "Pluggers".
Valvegear
FYI you can buy the t-shirt...

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  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
One packet could be 100% Aussie bacon, the next 4 packets could be 100% Chinese with no idea of the location it came from.  Luck of the draw.
Carnot
That is probably the case, except it's more likely Danish and Canadian than Chinese.

For those of interest in buying Australian pork, it's possible through labeling to see 'Australian Pork' which is what it says it is, or buy fresh meat, or cured/smoked/cooked meat on the bone, whilst frozen/cured pig products are importable into Australia, the bones cannot be imported, neither can fresh animal products.

ANY 'bone in' ham for example for sale in Australia is Australian Pork for sure, any ham sold without a bone is likely Danish origin.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I would've voted yes for improving animal welfare too.  Interesting to see if pig farmers adapt:

Carnot
Real veal is not so much of a thing here today, if veal was really veal in the traditional meaning then the animals would need no space at all.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
YM-Mundrabilla
Most bacon sold in Australia is not of Australian origin, probably only about a quarter of it is, and to some extent this is a backhanded compliment to our pig farmers/breeders in Australia. Australia raises a lot of 'lean' pigs, bacon requires much fattier animals, which is to an extent where the small pens come in, no room to move/exercise, nearly all food intake stored and almost no fat burned, bingo, an animal for bacon.

The rest of the story comes from the rise in popularity of pork belly and pork loin for roasting etc. Traditionally these cuts were made into bacon in Australia, loin being the meaty end (short cut) of bacon, belly being the streaky end, both combined being the standard full rasher. Since it is prohibited to import fresh meat product into Australia, these cuts for domestic consumption must be Australian sourced. This leaves somewhat of a hole in the market for the 'cured/smoked/etc' products which is why we fill much of it from overseas.

Years ago, piggeries used to ultrasound their pigs probably about the mid point of their lives and get a measure of fat thickness over muscle, based on these numbers pigs were divided into 'porkers' and 'baconers', they'd then be 'finished' in terms of diet by these categories.

These days, I suspect that most piggeries don't even bother with the measurements and just raise all lean animals for the fresh market.
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
If one buys sliced bacon how can it be 21% Australian?
Surely a slice of bacon is either Australian or it is not?
Spin, lies, misleading, fraud (whatever) but they still get away with it.
The 'made in Australia' symbol is little more than swindle in a lot of cases.
One packet could be 100% Aussie bacon, the next 4 packets could be 100% Chinese with no idea of the location it came from.  Luck of the draw.
That is probably the case, except it's more likely Danish and Canadian than Chinese.

For those of interest in buying Australian pork, it's possible through labeling to see 'Australian Pork' which is what it says it is, or buy fresh meat, or cured/smoked/cooked meat on the bone, whilst frozen/cured pig products are importable into Australia, the bones cannot be imported, neither can fresh animal products.

ANY 'bone in' ham for example for sale in Australia is Australian Pork for sure, any ham sold without a bone is likely Danish origin.
Aaron
Thankyou for this informative post. You cleared up my misunderstanding that the majority is from Canada. I remember when trade agreements enabled the Canadians to access our markets and killed off many local suppliers. That was sometime ago, and it is interesting that the Danes have pushed into our market.

It is good to know that anything with bone will be Australian related, will help with future shopping choices.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The Canadians are a relatively small market supplier for ham/bacon in Australia, none of the importations are pushing the Australian pig industry out, Australia currently doesn’t raise enough animals to fill 100% demand, buying imported bacon/ham isn’t driving an Aussie farmer out of business, it’s buying a product that otherwise likely wouldn’t be made.

I called it a backhanded compliment before, but it’s really just a plain compliment, the Australian growers produce such a good product that the fresh market is in pork is so strong today that they don’t need to (or likely can’t) focus on cooked/cured product.

To give you an idea how good the local market in pork is, Australia’s export industry is minuscule, we basically export offal, and that’s it.

Sure, some piggeries and butchers in Australia still make ‘local’ ham and bacon, and it is for sure a great product - I don’t consume a lot of either, but people needn’t feel bad buying non domestic.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Thanks Aaron great info, well to me anyway and perhaps Big J Razz I had a handle on most of that but you have filled in the gaps, thanks.

Our local shops St Clair village a short ( 700mtr ) walk has a Coles in it and by the way has very good produce in all departments and half regularly stocks Australian 90 odd % Coles branded Bacon, the short cut and pan size half variety so we stock up on that when needed. Woolies also has Aussie Gold bacon which is also of similar %. I do not buy ham that is of low % Australian quantity either.

I have been quite a Tyrant on the purchasing of these low Australian percentage products with family and friends, have also administered the occasional mild dressing down to repeat offenders, perhaps I should back the throttle off in that department. It does pay to read the label for the relevant info.

Bacon when I was a kid was about a foot long and an 8th of an inch thick with a strip of rind and plenty of fat on it, something you don't see much these days. Most bacon is cut as thin as paper these days, you can find thicker cut stuff if you hunt around.

BigShunter.

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