50 level crossings to be removed

 
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Cave Hill Road, Lilydale hasn't been closed yet. No date given. Interesting to see if it is closed.

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  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Cave Hill Road, Lilydale hasn't been closed yet. No date given. Interesting to see if it is closed.
kitchgp
I very much doubt it will be.
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I still say the LCRA over stepped their remit when they decommissioned platform 1 at Oakleigh
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I still say the LCRA over stepped their remit when they decommissioned platform 1 at Oakleigh
ARodH
Was that really a decision by the LXRA?  Or by the desire of the operators of the suburban network to remove unwanted trackage (and pointwork) considering no sparks terminate at Oakleigh these days.
  historian Chief Commissioner

I still say the LCRA over stepped their remit when they decommissioned platform 1 at Oakleigh
Was that really a decision by the LXRA?  Or by the desire of the operators of the suburban network to remove unwanted trackage (and pointwork) considering no sparks terminate at Oakleigh these days.
duttonbay

AFAIK it had nothing to do with the LXRA. It was a side effect of resignalling Oakleigh for the Melbourne Metro. It was necessary to replace the relay interlocking at Oakleigh with a modern CBI to support CBTC. When you have to renew the signalling, you don't retain unnecessary points/signals/track circuits. It adds seriously to the cost.

Of course, it was done as a package of works (signalling, power supply, etc) integrated with the LXRA work. It also allowed for improved disabled access to the former island platform. Win, win, win.

In the far distant future, I can see a desire to provide an independent goods/V/Line track pair, which *may* mean more tracks through Oakleigh. But that's so far down the track that it doesn't make sense to actually build anything today. Who knows how that would actually be implemented; any construction  done 'in preparation' today is just as likely to need to be ripped out tomorrow.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Trains from the east can terminate (and depart with speed) in Platform 1 (formerly Platform 2) and trains from the west in Platform 2 (formerly Platform 3).

Courtesy of VicSig;
https://vicsig.net/infrastructure/location/Oakleigh


Westall won.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Trains from the east can terminate (and depart with speed) in Platform 1 (formerly Platform 2) and trains from the west in Platform 2 (formerly Platform 3).

Courtesy of VicSig;
https://vicsig.net/infrastructure/location/Oakleigh


Westall won.
kitchgp
So they can. I had forgotten that. Surely that's not in place to shorten the amount of time people are in buses when work is being  done.
  Lockie91 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sunbury, Vic
Trains from the east can terminate (and depart with speed) in Platform 1 (formerly Platform 2) and trains from the west in Platform 2 (formerly Platform 3).

Courtesy of VicSig;
https://vicsig.net/infrastructure/location/Oakleigh


Westall won.
So they can. I had forgotten that. Surely that's not in place to shorten the amount of time people are in buses when work is being  done.
duttonbay
Most likely an emergency cross over. Plenty of them around the network are used for planned and unplanned service disruptions. As has been said trains do not regularly terminate at Oakleigh anymore, was no point in keeping the infrastructure associated with a third platform that might be used once or twice a year. No different to place like Sunshine or Gowie.

Lockie
  historian Chief Commissioner

Trains from the east can terminate (and depart with speed) in Platform 1 (formerly Platform 2) and trains from the west in Platform 2 (formerly Platform 3).
So they can. I had forgotten that. Surely that's not in place to shorten the amount of time people are in buses when work is being  done.
duttonbay

That's exactly what it's for. Or emergencies. A couple of others have been provided with the grade separations: Reservoir; Coburg/Batman; and Bonbeach/Carrum.

There seems to have been a change in practice over the last couple. At Oakleigh and Reservoir, two crossovers were provided, one on each side of the station. Oakleigh and Reservoir can consequently terminate trains from both directions. At the two recent examples, only one (trailing) crossover is provided. On the Upfield line, for example, Down trains are terminated at Batman when work is being done between Batman and Gowrie, and Up trains at Coburg when work is being done on the Up side of Coburg. Both use the same crossover which is situated about halfway between the stations. Same deal for Bonbeach/Carrum.

This is not to say that the terminating facilities can't be used for other purposes; that's the advantage of full signalling controlled from a central point. I've caught a 0922 Batman train that ran North Melbourne/Royal Park/Coburg/Batman, and would return as an Up. Before the grade separation this was a Coburg train with the same stopping pattern. Presumably this is to get a train out of the way somewhere for a short time.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Though some of the Frankston line level crossings are grade separated with more projected, the crossing with the Highett roundabout is not one of them.
  Tii Chief Train Controller

Bell to Preston- the Cramer street crossing will be closed for 2 nights to get the elevated sections lifted into place. This will complete the UP side all the way from Murray road to the descent over Oakover road.  The missing section is the rise from Regent station to Preston station over Murray road- where nothing has started at this point but will soon I expect. The OLE structures are already being fitted, so I'm guessing the single line running will commence within weeks when the final U troughs are in, tracks etc layer. March perhaps?
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Though some of the Frankston line level crossings are grade separated with more projected, the crossing with the Highett roundabout is not one of them.
Myrtone
Majority of the Frankston line level crossings are either grade separated or earmarked to be grade separated.

I guarantee they chose the extra two for Mentone/Parkdale, cause the Warrigal road level crossing was a pretty awful one and doing Parkdale together made sense.

It's not the only crossing not earmarked left, there is 9 of them left.

2 level crossings in the Highett area. 1 level crossing left btw Cheltenham and Mentone. 3 level crossings in the Mordialloc area. 1 level crossing left in Aspendale. 2 level crossings left in the Seaford area.

That's not actually that much left considering there were 30 or so to begin with in 2015! 10 years later and most of them all gone now.

Still plenty to go after the 85, I'd expect one or two more expansions of the program and then we can start closing the remaining or leaving the rest of them alone as they are.
  712M Chief Commissioner

The one-month closure of the Pakenham and Cranbourne lines past Westall began yesterday. Once trains have resumed, we should see another three crossings removed - at Hallam Rd, Hallam; Clyde Rd, Berwick and Greens Rd, Dandenong South to coincide with track duplication on the Cranbourne line. Major works should also be starting soon on the Pakenham crossing.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

The one-month closure of the Pakenham and Cranbourne lines past Westall began yesterday. Once trains have resumed, we should see another three crossings removed - at Hallam Rd, Hallam; Clyde Rd, Berwick and Greens Rd, Dandenong South to coincide with track duplication on the Cranbourne line. Major works should also be starting soon on the Pakenham crossing.
712M
Hallam Rd, Hallam will take a bit longer, expect that by the end of 2022.

Only Clyde Road and Greens road + Cranbourne duplication confirmed in the early part of 2022.

Still lots to go, you got Camms road remaining for the Cranbourne line by 2024, you got Webster street which affects both Cranbourne/Pakenham Lines which hasn't been announced yet.

Pakenham group just got contracted recently, so major work will start on that soon.

And then you got Narren Warren and Beaconfield level crossings to go, with 2 closures planned as well.
  historian Chief Commissioner

The Glenhuntly grade separation has kicked off.

Large pile driving machine in the former car park north of Glen Huntly Rd.

All of the station car parks at Glenhuntly are closed (about 181 spaces) replaced by 110 spaces at Caulfield Racecourse near the Queens Ave bridge. Not available, of course, on race days.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Announcement that Hallam LX will be gone in April this year.
Hallam

Neil
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Bedford Rd Ringwood latest:
https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/projects/bedford-road-ringwood#gallery-643317-1

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/first-look-bedford-road-level-crossing-removal-design

The trench is already half-built within the Ringwood Yard.  I wonder why they're still going to acquire 4 houses?
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
Bedford Rd Ringwood latest:
https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/projects/bedford-road-ringwood#gallery-643317-1

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/first-look-bedford-road-level-crossing-removal-design

The trench is already half-built within the Ringwood Yard.  I wonder why they're still going to acquire 4 houses?
Carnot
I have noticed that the trench solutions over the last couple of years have been alongside the existing track.

Hence no long duration line closures.
Remember 6 weeks furiuosly digging under Middleborough Rd, shutting the line completely.

Hence, alongside means that some properties are too close to the new alignment and have to go. 4 X $1m would be a bargain.

PS. like several other sites, until finally demolished, those acquired houses make pretty good work site offices.

cheers
John
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Wonder where they get the idea that travel will be faster. It's a 50 km/h speed-restricted curve with two trains per hour for the most part. Hopefully something can be done about the rail squeal around there too.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
Wonder where they get the idea that travel will be faster. It's a 50 km/h speed-restricted curve with two trains per hour for the most part. Hopefully something can be done about the rail squeal around there too.
Heihachi_73
The track will finally be designed with the geometry requirements of trains, instead of the flat lie for cars.

That should be a marginal improvement of track speed, and an appropriate cant to get rid of the squeal.
Also the cuttings are somewhat effective in blocking noise, and no more tooting horns.
  Djebel Train Controller

Wonder where they get the idea that travel will be faster. It's a 50 km/h speed-restricted curve with two trains per hour for the most part. Hopefully something can be done about the rail squeal around there too.
Heihachi_73
I vaguely recall reading on RP that the speed restriction was also due to the condition of the rails, which were being left in place in anticipation of the LX being removed (a rare and miraculous example of government NOT wasting money).
  Djebel Train Controller

Bedford Rd Ringwood latest:
https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/projects/bedford-road-ringwood#gallery-643317-1

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/first-look-bedford-road-level-crossing-removal-design

The trench is already half-built within the Ringwood Yard.  I wonder why they're still going to acquire 4 houses?
I have noticed that the trench solutions over the last couple of years have been alongside the existing track.

Hence no long duration line closures.
Remember 6 weeks furiuosly digging under Middleborough Rd, shutting the line completely.

Hence, alongside means that some properties are too close to the new alignment and have to go. 4 X $1m would be a bargain.

PS. like several other sites, until finally demolished, those acquired houses make pretty good work site offices.

cheers
John
justarider
Looking at the concept designs, the running lines and the sidings are staying on the current alignments.  So the houses being acquired could be between the railway and Great Ryrie St, on the south side of Bedford Rd, or they could be between the railway and Pitt St, on the north side of Bedford Rd.

Or a combination of both.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I vaguely recall reading on RP that the speed restriction was also due to the condition of the rails, which were being left in place in anticipation of the LX being removed (a rare and miraculous example of government NOT wasting money).
Djebel
The 50 limit has been there for as long as I can remember; the Belgrave line was partially duplicated in the 80s and received the then state-of-the-art concrete sleepers on the new track (which was the down line); the up line took until last decade to receive its concrete sleepers.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
With Clyde Rd now gone, as of last Monday, Hallam due to go in April, the next one to go will be Glenroy on May 7

Glenroy

With the Mernda line (Bell St) group in October, that leaves Gap Rd Sunbury as the only one, definitely, this year that doesn't have a date yet and with LXRP handballing any updates to the Sunbury line upgrade website, which is very poor compared to the LXRP one, IMHO, it's hard to get a feel for where they are at with it.

Neil
  Tii Chief Train Controller

With Clyde Rd now gone, as of last Monday, Hallam due to go in April, the next one to go will be Glenroy on May 7

Glenroy

With the Mernda line (Bell St) group in October, that leaves Gap Rd Sunbury as the only one, definitely, this year that doesn't have a date yet and with LXRP handballing any updates to the Sunbury line upgrade website, which is very poor compared to the LXRP one, IMHO, it's hard to get a feel for where they are at with it.

Neil
ngarner
Are any out Deer Park way being finished/open this year ? 1 out of the 3 perhaps.

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