The Australian Open 2022

 
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Now that the lawyers are involved this will drag on for yonks. He will ultimately be allowed to stay/play under:
  • A previous precedent where some other privileged sportsperson, film star or whatever was allowed in.
  • A perceived, contrived or other get out of jail natural justice/human rights entitlement.
  • It will be found that there was some stuff up by Australian bureaucracy.
He will play, get monstered by the crowd, the lawyers will make squillions $$$ and we, the taxpayer, will be lucky if we avoid paying him damages.
Be interesting to see how long he is locked up in a dodgy quarantine hotel before he is shifted to a 5 star hotel to protect his 'mental health'. His present location is, perhaps, the real penalty to him.
YM-Mundrabilla
He’s an anti vaxxer, just deny him on character grounds.

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
As someone on Twitter wrote, "Novak, Novax, Novisa".
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Let’s all get ready for more Australian government smeg.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Apparently Novac caught Corona back in June of 2020, so if the exemptions state that you must have caught it within the last 6 months, surely this means he does not meet the criteria?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The number of medical experts we have on this subject amazes me. Apparently the Border Force is incompetent because our mob knows better.
He didn't comply; he was refused entry. Q E D.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Don is just jealous because his Anti-Vax mate can't attend.
  BaysideManny Chief Train Controller

Why are the left so quick to judge?
Carnot
From the person who is so quick to judge people that are not like them.

It must be exhausting trying to own the so called left all the time.


Mannie
  Divine3801 Locomotive Driver

This is just wonderful......

Everybody remember in NSW Katie Hopkins? being deported for her rebellious streak against the COVID protocols?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-19/katie-hopkins-caitlyn-jenner-celebrities-allowed-in-to-australia/100303928

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57883692

There's even an interview with the home affairs minister...

https://minister.homeaffairs.gov.au/KarenAndrews/Pages/interview-with-peter-stefanovic-sky-news-19-06-2021.aspx

The key statements:


PETER STEFANOVIC: Why was she given a visa in the first place?

KAREN ANDREWS: Well, she was supported by a State Government (NSW) to come into the country, and the application was based on the fact that there would be an economic benefit because of the opportunity that she and others would have here in Australia. So we, as a Federal Government, do support State and Territory Governments when they wish to bring people in here, particularly if they're doing it over the quarantine caps.

There are some pretty well established procedures in place as to how these people can potentially access the exemption to come into Australia, and it was granted on that basis. Now, as soon as we found out about her behaviour and the fact that she was out there openly flaunting our quarantine system here, we took pretty strong action as quickly as we possibly could to get that visa cancelled, and to make sure she would be leaving country.
Interview Extract


All of a sudden Border Force is going back through other Tennis players granted exemptions
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/border-force-investigating-other-australian-open-players-after-djokovic-ban-20220106-p59md5.html

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/border-force-investigate-more-medical-exemptions-novak-djokovic/100742868

"The ABF is aware of two other individuals (already in the State of Victoria) who have used the same exemption letter issued by Tennis Australia as the basis for their medical exemption for the purposes of travelling to Australia," the spokesperson told the ABC.

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The Serbian President has already made his declaration and is well and truly fired up - in constant contact with Novak.

We just had a severe chapter of damaged diplomatic relations with France over the AUKUS mess trashing the submarine contract with President Macron.

Now we are going to have another one because the Federal Government is in panic reacting to public outrage here in Victoria... while we are neck deep in Omicron

Deporting Novak creates major diplomatic issues, yet releasing him in, for the Australian Open, infuriates people beyond belief. The status of significant privileged wealth and of a celebrity is frustrating for Australian Citizens trying to get home, but worse, he publicly refuses to be vaccinated, and this elevates the emotions to that of the outrage we see. Add the fact with what Omicron is doing in this country.....


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Put it all together

- Somehow regardless of the exemption status, this high profile celebrity was able to board the plane to Australia. Isn't there a procedure to check and verify validation of entry to the country before boarding? Dont we have border force officers at departing airports to this country!

- The Federal Politicians picked up the outrage and are detaining him to decide whether they should risk damaging diplomatic relations, deporting him and being responsible for negatively affecting the reputation of the Australian Open, or

- Release him to the State Hotel Quarantine Authorities and try to blame the State Government as the outrage goes into overdrive at the hypocrisy of not only already allowing rich privileged celebrities the jump the queue waiting to come in, but those who are anti vaccine.
Kate Hopkins is a very extreme profile of anti vaccine of which the Federal Government previously let in, clearly for NSW Big Brother ( This is not a suggestion that Novak Djokovic will engage in misconduct to the level of Kate Hopkins )

- All of this while in the middle of the crisis of Omicron boiling in NSW and is eventually going to catch up to Victoria very soon.

This is ultimately why people across Australia are so incensed, we are in the middle of a severe Omicron crisis wreaking havoc on our hospitals and now there is a high profile celebrity with anti vaccination views outwardly expressed being flown in just overnight and is knocking on the door to come in....

What sort of influence is he going to have here in Australia on those who are anti vaccination and dont believe COVID is real for a start?

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Remember a Michael Outram? not too long ago he was commissioner of Australian Border Force.
He was very incensed at NSW Health blaming border force officers over the Ruby Princess, he made the decision to call the press conference.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-pjN1BHlI

The fingers were being pointed at them for NSW Health's failure, they may well be forced to word explanations to point fingers anywhere. It's Federal Election Year.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
It's a bit silly to compare a diplomatic spat with Serbia with the problems with France. Serbian companies are of no significance in Australian infrastructure and aviation sectors, Serbia does not control territory off the Queensland coast.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Reports emerging that Australian performers and audience will not be welcome at the Guča trumpet festival this year. A pity, it is a wonderful folkloric event, certainly more enjoyable than the tennis.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
With recriminations flying between Canberra and Daniel Andrews’ state Labor government, a letter from federal Health Minister Greg Hunt to Tennis Australia boss Craig Tiley showed the tennis chief has been warned on two separate occasions in November there were no grounds to exempt anyone for the reasons Djokovic is believed to have cited.
This involved catching the virus within six months of arrival in Australia. But on November 29, Mr Hunt told Mr Tiley: “In relation to your specific questions, I can confirm that people who contracted Covid-19 within the past six months and seek to enter Australia from overseas, and have not received two doses of a Therapeutic Goods Administration-¬approved or TGA-recognised vaccine (or one dose of the Johnson and Johnson Covid-19 vaccine) are not considered fully vaccinated.”
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
- Somehow regardless of the exemption status, this high profile celebrity was able to board the plane to Australia. Isn't there a procedure to check and verify validation of entry to the country before boarding? Dont we have border force officers at departing airports to this country!
Divine3801
You’ve never travelled have you?

EVERY person arriving in Australia is assessed AT THE BORDER. I think this is likely to be true for every country, it’s certainly true for every country I have ever travelled to, exceptions being Schengen countries where national borders are not really a thing, but I was still assessed for admission into the Schengen zone at the border of the first Schengen country.

Of course we don’t have Australian Border forces in departing countries - what authority do you think Australian domestic forces would have in foreign countries? Do you think we have foreign security personnel checking every attending various foreign countries from here?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Lots protesting against the hotel quarantine Serbians that is in carlton. Not unexpected one would think.

In breaking news expect more players to suffer the same fate with visas. The news rumours are about to hear about 3 new players also detained.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Simple!
  • Dogsbody must have had a visa to board the flight to Melbourne for it to be cancelled on arrival. Undeniable.
  • Federal Government issues visas.
  • Who/which (embassy/whatever) issued visa in the first place if ALL requirements were not met? Surely they were either met or they were not! Morrison is now claiming that they were not net. Heads must roll (ha bloody ha).
  • All the medical exemptions to enter Victoria and play in the AO must be 'physically' secondary to whether subject can enter the country.

As I have said before:
  • He will not be deported.
  • The lawyers will make squillions.
  • He will play in the AO.
  • He will be booed off the court.
  • He will chuck a wobbly.
  • It will all be our fault.
  • He will be paid damages or bought off at our expense.
  • Humphrey Appleby would be proud of us.
  • All questioning will be banned because 'before the courts' (which is very convenient).
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
If Djokovic doesn’t get told to go, and I still think he will have to be, we should start a GoFundMe or similar to which every Australian can contribute $1 each to provide an extra prize.

Don and Carnot won’t donate, and I don’t expect the Serbian community to, though the one friend I have that is Serbian thinks Djokovic is a dick, so she probably will.

That’s got to be worth about $20 million, and I certainly think my $1 couldn’t be better spent.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Someone on radio mentioned that a false declaration on a visa application could invoke a 3 year ban on entry to Australia.  No more Joker at the AO?  As if he would want to ever come here again.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Details are sketchy, but I don’t think he lied on his visa application, I have seen reports that he applied for the ‘wrong thing’ or was supplied the wrong info in relation to covid.

False or misleading info on a visa application does carry various potential exclusion periods, but it’s unlikely this is the problem, so those penalties won’t be given.

If he’s breached requirements in regard to covid declarations then the penalties are much smaller, a minimum fine of thirty times $222, and/or 12 months imprisonment, and he’s not going to prison.
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
I am waiting for Serbia to impose economic sanctions against Australia. That will teach Scomo.
  Divine3801 Locomotive Driver

It's a bit silly to compare a diplomatic spat with Serbia with the problems with France. Serbian companies are of no significance in Australian infrastructure and aviation sectors, Serbia does not control territory off the Queensland coast.
billybaxter
It's true Serbia doesn't have the significance of that to France. The big trouble here is that on his way in during flight, a decision was made to block entry, rather than before he boarded.

If he had been informed his exemptions and visas weren't going to be validated and accepted on entry, he then knows what to definitely expect from Border Force at the departure or arrival and that is being quarantined and then placed on a returning flight home effective as soon as available.

There shouldn't be a legal avenue for him to appeal on arrival without a visa when he boarded, and he would have to do it again from where he departed, which is a lot better than the risk of a much worse situation that is very likely to develop as a result of what is happening right now ( I will go through it in further posts )

All of a sudden, a couple of days ago, he is able to get on a plane, announced via social media he was on his way and the Federal Government hit panic stations. Naturally, the exemptions made by Tennis Australia to play, should be passed up to the Federal Government where they are the body to examine and validate a visa for his entry.

If it wasn't approved, he should have been informed the visa wasn't valid and if attempted he would promptly be turned around even if he arrived.

As a result, even though diplomatic relations with Serbia aren't considered as significant as France, the Federal Government created one, and in doing so displayed Australia as a very dodgy country to conduct international relations, aggravated by the previous ridicule of how the French diplomatic relations was handled.

Grant visa requests and suddenly cancel and kick them out, treating them as if they were as ridiculous in their behaviour as Katie Hopkins?

Katie Hopkins aggravated people by deliberately disrespecting, flaunting and openly mocking COVID protocols for attention and reaction.

Here both Tennis Players got sprung because the Federal Government suddenly decided previous infection and recovery was not sufficient when it was accepted and visa granted in the first place!

Former Deputy Secretary of the Immigration Department, Abul Rizvi made statements on the immigration failures surrounding Djokovic. He has labelled the handling a farce.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/djokovic-farce-at-airport-the-product-of-a-chain-of-australian-failures-20220106-p59mab.html

There is a video interview here of him

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-tennis-australian-open-detention-melbourne/100742036
  Divine3801 Locomotive Driver

- Somehow regardless of the exemption status, this high profile celebrity was able to board the plane to Australia. Isn't there a procedure to check and verify validation of entry to the country before boarding? Dont we have border force officers at departing airports to this country!
You’ve never travelled have you?

EVERY person arriving in Australia is assessed AT THE BORDER. I think this is likely to be true for every country, it’s certainly true for every country I have ever travelled to, exceptions being Schengen countries where national borders are not really a thing, but I was still assessed for admission into the Schengen zone at the border of the first Schengen country.

Of course we don’t have Australian Border forces in departing countries - what authority do you think Australian domestic forces would have in foreign countries? Do you think we have foreign security personnel checking every attending various foreign countries from here?
Aaron

Firstly, during my international travels, I have witnessed Australian Border Force Officers at departure gates of flights to Australia.

Upon learning of this fiasco and farce, I wondered if they still had such arrangements, it turns out accordingly it does according to this individual:

I read his passages before I first began posting:

Former deputy secretary of the Department of Immigration - Abul Rizvi

https://www.smh.com.au/national/djokovic-farce-at-airport-the-product-of-a-chain-of-australian-failures-20220106-p59mab.html


At all major overseas airports with direct flights to Australia, there are Australian Border Force officers who assist airline staff to decide who can board a plane to Australia.


Why didn’t the relevant Border Force official advise airline staff to prevent Djokovic from boarding, given the uncertainties about his vaccination status and his eligibility for an exemption?


Did senior Border Force officers in Australia fail to advise the more junior official at the overseas airport where Djokovic boarded a plane to Australia that he should be asked further questions before he was allowed to board?
Abul Rizvi extract from article


This article includes a video interview of him

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-tennis-australian-open-detention-melbourne/100742036

Learning of Australian Border Force Officers at departing countries to Australia was a surprise when I first witnessed, because I too did not believe arrangements would work that way, however it is effective and reduces the quantity of costly and inconvenient situations where individuals would land in an Australian airport from international flights only to inevitably find out their visa or whatever arrangements they would be granted in wouldn't be validated and have to fly back home.

Having one at the departure gate verifying your border entry visa, and if invalid, avoids these costly problems, it also helps reduce the consumption of resources assessing at the border.

If the Federal Government was on top of this, even Australian Border Force would have already advised him that what he is going through right now would result.

A Border Force Officer there even with a visa could have checked with him about his vaccination status and got in touch with Border Force authorities here to be absolutely sure that assessment at the Border would grant him a pass.

His outspoken views on being unvaccinated and a high profile celebrity is more than enough to alert the Federal Government and have border force make sure no grave mistakes like this would happen.


Doing so, border force could have been right on top of it, re-examined the visa, identified that it was mistakenly granted and inform him with apologies that it shouldn't have happened, and of course, the rest would be history.

All he would do is return home from departure airport, reapply for visa grant again, if the rules permit, perhaps he would even decide to get vaccinated as a result, Tennis Championship is the dedication of his life.

Then let the complaints go up and about, and that will be fine if it affects diplomatic relations with Serbia, and it would be nowhere near as bad as it is now, because we effectively demonstrate we are still struggling to fight a COVID wave that is being wreaked on the country, it would have earned respect for the Federal Government

Instead our Federal Government showed themselves as dumb fools who allowed the visa grants despite the outrage that would happen, then cancel it in a panicked knee jerk reaction when he was already on the flight here.

The Mishandling catapulted the Federal Government and the country into the international spotlight, dragging up thorny reminders of catastrophic bungles including with President Macron of France.

Having foresight of the reaction in Victoria would prevent this trouble and the geo political spectacle that has sparked as a result..

... but seriously, why would this logical approach be taken anyway!?

We are talking about a Federal Government that still has not built fit for purpose Quarantine Facilities and instead threw him into a petri dish hotel, they just yanked another Tennis player and cancelled her visa, the visa was granted with the same exemption that Djokovic applied to enter!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/australian-open-renata-vorackova-visa-border-force/100745226

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/czech-tennis-player-renata-vor-ov-detained-by-australian-border-force-20220107-p59mq2.html

This Federal Political reaction may look good to the public because he refuses to be vaccinated, but this short sighted reaction has a grave risk
( A further post I will add below )
  Divine3801 Locomotive Driver

** ( This is the further post I am referring to )


Czech Republic tennis player detained in same hotel as Novak Djokovic and instructed to leave Australia.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/australian-open-renata-vorackova-visa-border-force/100745226

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/czech-tennis-player-renata-vor-ov-detained-by-australian-border-force-20220107-p59mq2.html
Renata Vorackova Deportation Order


In Voráčová's case, Czech diplomats are in contact with the 38-year-old player, and the country's embassy has launched a formal protest with Australian authorities.

"We can confirm that Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová is in the same detention as Djokovic, together with several other players," the Czech Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"We submitted through our embassy in Canberra a protest note and are asking for an explanation of the situation.
From the ABC statements of the Czech Republic Diplomats


Now that we are in the middle of the situation with Novak Djokovic and Renata Vorackova from Czech Republic put in the same hotels. We have another serious situation:

The hotel has a reputation for cross contamination and poor, even inhumane handling of those detained within, they are asylum seekers, which is no surprise that they are treated like sick animals in there.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/26/inside-melbournes-park-hotel-refugees-sit-and-wait-for-covid-to-find-them

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/novak-djokovic-refugees-hope-tennis-stars-hotel-detention-will-cast-light-on-their-torture


Considering they are both unvaccinated, and the high risk of cross contamination, there is the high risk of them contracting COVID as a result.

- If they contract COVID - namely Delta or Omicron and obtain proof from genomic sequencing that it was from the quarantine hotel, what would they do?

- Say they win appeals and the visa grants are ordered by the courts, can they still play tennis if they are COVID positive? Will Tennis Australia have to apologize to them that they cant play because of a COVID positive result?

- They are unvaccinated, what if their health suffers adverse reactions as a result? And while we may judge them for not being vaccinated, who put them there in the first place?

- Bad enough the kind of convincing legal actions they will consider, because they were already granted visas before the Federal Government shafted them into a petri dish hotel!

- What will the international spotlight theatre transform into?


This is the grave risk that has a very high chance of happening because they are already not vaccinated, if they get sick from cross contamination the international spotlight is likely to get very very nasty.

Australia, poisons the World No.1 Tennis Player as headlines, and now they just stuck another one from Czech Republic in the same place as well.

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The Federal Government has had a foolish knee jerk reaction and have not thought through the terrible risk of doing so.

What a way to kick of the year 2022, it's already getting crazier and going nuts. What nonsense is this Federal Government going to do before the election? Just to desperately score political points?? It can't come soon enough

Great little phrase Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews, it's his choice to depart Australia if he wants to, but if he doesn't who picks the place to detain him?

Looking on this catastrophic bungle, I think it should have happened, for the sake of the refugees held in there.

Hopefully, the two tennis players detained in there when they exit will be motivated to project a spotlight onto the maltreatment of the refugees in there by the Federal Government.

Given the way they have been treated as political pawns, I hope they witness and learn from those who have been put through far worse for years. This, hopefully may be the refugees saving grace, and, even if the tennis players use it for political games, if it helps to get them out and effectively humiliates Federal authorities to never hold people like that again, they should get a go for being misused like this, those people have been held for years and years just to eventually die.

There is a lot of negativity to Novak Djokovic's views of vaccination, but arguably, the Federal Government is extremely inhumane, and hopefully this will pull their handling of refugees with a renewed focus for all the international shame they deserve into the spotlight.

The Prime Minister and Home Affairs minister deserve a meltdown over this.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Divine 3801,
It is a lot simpler than that.
Tennis Aust. stuffed up.  End of story.  They gave false info to players about being able to enter Aus if they had covid in the past 6 months.  Wrong.   Federal Gov doing what they are supposed to do.
Djokovic and the other player don't have to stay in the hotel any longer.  They can catch the next plane out of here.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

I am waiting for Serbia to impose economic sanctions against Australia. That will teach Scomo.
SinickleBird
It's funny how Serbia is upset when he doesn't even pay tax there, or anywhere.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Airlines check your visa before letting you on a plane. If they fly you here without one, and you're refused entry, they have to fly you back out at their own expense. Australian immigration have no authority in overseas airports.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
It's funny how Serbia is upset when he doesn't even pay tax there, or anywhere.
"Madjikthise"
The official outrage in Serbia is for home consumption. You have to look tough at times; then sufficient of the populace will think you're pretty good.

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