2022 Winter Olympics in China

 
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Only a few hours until the start of the women's 30 km mass start!

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
And only a few hours longer until the whole shooting match is over - the end will come as a blessed relief.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Strange comment from an avowed sports fan
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

It is a perfectly reasonable position to be a sports fan but not a fan of the corrupt Olympic organisation.

All of these sports have their own World Cup series and/or World Championships contested at other times, and often with fewer entry restrictions meaning they have greater sporting merit. There is no reason that Olympic medals could not be awarded at each sport's existing World Cup/Championship events and the Olympic Games as a massive event scrapped.
  8502 Assistant Commissioner

And only a few hours longer until the whole shooting match is over - the end will come as a blessed relief.
Valvegear

What do you not like so much about the Olympics?  

Watching the event yesterday it was hard to to appreciate the amount of preparation and training going into the 4 man bobsled when fractions of seconds decide if you are out of the medals or walking away with a gold one.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Strange comment from an avowed sports fan
"billybaxter"
I admit to being an avowed sports fan, but not an all-sports fan.

What do you not like so much about the Olympics?
"8502"
The Olympics are a little like Vegemite - too much spoils the flavour.  I admit to being quite selective about which events I like, and Winter sports are not up there.  Watching heat after heat of snow boarding, figure skating (ugh!), ski jumping, slaloms et al bores me boneless, and it seems to go on for ever. A Test match only takes five days.
As for the normal Olympics, I watch Track and Field, Swimming and Cycling.
I do find it interesting to compare the Olympics of 1956 in Melbourne with the modern day version. Drug cheats, Nationalism to an amazing degree, political involvement (boycotts etc), have all conspired to taint the modern Olympics.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

As for the normal Olympics, I watch Track and Field, Swimming and Cycling.
Valvegear
Three examples of sports which would be better served if some way was found to give Olympic status to their existing World Championships.

Olympic cycling, for example, is heavily restricted compared to the normal World Championships. The Road discipline last year was restricted to 188 riders in total across the men’s and women’s events, where this year’s Road World Championships will have roughly that number take the start of the Elite Men’s Road Race in Helensburgh - before you start counting the Elite Women’s field who will race the previous day, elite time trial specialists who won’t be part of the Road Race, riders for the U23 and U19 events etc.

Cycling is then holding a multi-disciplinary World Championships in 2023 (and planned to run every four years after that) where all the different disciplines will have their world titles awarded in one 11 day festival, sort of like a cycling exclusive version of the Olympics. If Olympic levels of publicity and enthusiasm could be transferred across to that event there would be no need for cycling to be part of the 2024 Olympics - though the next Olympics being in Paris could offer the once in a century opportunity for the winners of the Tour de France and the Tour Femme to be simultaneously crowned Olympic Champions.


I do find it interesting to compare the Olympics of 1956 in Melbourne with the modern day version. Drug cheats, Nationalism to an amazing degree, political involvement (boycotts etc), have all conspired to taint the modern Olympics.
Valvegear
Too right. The modern Olympics has all of those classic elements from Melbourne 1956 plus the massive growth of corporate influence.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Olympic cycling, for example, is heavily restricted compared to the normal World Championships. . . .
"justapassenger"
Absolutely no doubt, but is that any reason for me to not enjoy the Olympic cycling as well as the World's? I just happen to like cycling. I have watched two Tours de France in France, and enjoyed both, and the Tour isn't a World Championship either.
I think Test cricket is the pinnacle, but that doesn't stop me watching Shield games or ODI's.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Olympic cycling, for example, is heavily restricted compared to the normal World Championships. . . .
Absolutely no doubt, but is that any reason for me to not enjoy the Olympic cycling as well as the World's? I just happen to like cycling. I have watched two Tours de France in France, and enjoyed both, and the Tour isn't a World Championship either.
I think Test cricket is the pinnacle, but that doesn't stop me watching Shield games or ODI's.
Valvegear
The problem comes for some sports when the Olympic event formats lead to the additional audience seeing a lower quality example of the sport.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The problem comes for some sports when the Olympic event formats lead to the additional audience seeing a lower quality example of the sport.
justapassenger
I take your point. I'd say that the genuine lover of the sport will know what standard is on display. Those who don't know will quite possibly not care either. I guess many sports are determined to show their best, hence the World Titles free from Olympic constraints.

(One of my favourite souvenirs is a TdF direction arrow which "fell into my suitcase" in Valloire at the end of Stage 18 of the 2019 Tour. It has a prominent place on my study wall.)

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