If they are doing a blanket freeze on anyone who attends, then it is atrocious and really draconian. Trudeau has a lot to answer for.
OK, we agree on that.
But I have no problem with the Canadian Government freezing the bank accounts of far-right organizations and activists, at all. I have mentioned the reason why. People like that I have had severe trouble with in the UK. I do not expect you to understand. They would like to see nothing more than people like me swinging on the end of a rope. I think that is good enough reason why I do not give a damn about them. If they get stomped on hard, then tough. G O O D !!!!!
Without due process, Mannie?
Again, you seem to want to punish some Canadians you disagree with (about the vax mandates) because you had severe trouble with other people (racist thugs) in the UK.
All I am saying is that the BLM marches are not the cesspit of violent left wing activism that you seek to portray.
No, but the BLM riots
are. Why do you keep conflating them? Why do you keep raising the BLM marches when we are talking about the BLM riots? Can't you tell the difference?
And why do you conflate the Freedom Convoy with far-right wing violence?
And why is your reaction to BLM focussed on the peaceful protest, but your reaction to the Freedom Convoy focussed on far right wing violence - particularly given that there was basically no such violence during the Freedom Convoy.
I'm distinguishing between protest and riot in both cases. You aren't. Why?
And not condoning any rioting whatsoever and that all rioters should be face jail sentences to the fullest extent available, can you prove that those 235 riots were planned and that those rallies that had turned violent that every participant was involved in rioting?
But why is proof of prior planning or universal participation relevant or required? Everyone who is proved in a court of law to have rioted should be jailed.
Is that your standard too? Because you seem to be saying that the government can violently punish protestors, take away their livelihoods, and lock the bank accounts of their supporters - all without proof of anything and without any trial at all - because you think they might be far-right. The due process part is missing.
Aren't you opposed to police brutality?
Peaceful protests are acceptable, people rioting or instigating violence against the Police is not protesting, that is thuggery whether it is from the left or right.
OK good. We are agreed on that.
All right I should not have said nutters, but a month long blockade of a city centre is too much. That is no different to Extinction Rebellion sitting in the middle of freeways, and guess what happened, the Police moved them on and rightly so.
Did they have their livelihoods destroyed? Were their supporters targetted with financial sanctions? Were their civil rights suspended? Were they retrospectively criminalised?
Did you think that Extinction Rebellion should be stomped on and have their necks broken?
What has happened in Canada, and what you seem to be advocating, is very different to what happened to Extinction Rebellion.
The Freedom Convoy was not just "moved on".
I have said that I will not shed a tear if far-right activists get stomped on.
You want to punish some Canadians you disagree with because you had severe trouble with other people in the UK. You are in danger of being no better than them.
With love and respect, that is a pathetic answer. I disagree with many people, and I have no problem with that at all. But I do hate far-right groups who will be almost certainly racist. Sorry if that hurts your sensibilities, but as far as I am concerned but they will receive sweet fa in the way of respect from me. So if you characterize groups who are anti-Semitic, who believe that the Caucasian race is being replaced as a simple disagreement, then I cannot help you. Far-Right group is a far-right group is a far-right group. They are the same everywhere, racist, anti Semitic, anti LGBTI nut jobs. I and my family have been harassed to the point of physical violence by these groups. Nice to know that you think that I am as bad as actual racists.
It doesn't hurt my sensibilities to punish violent extremists. It's that the fact that you (and so many others) condone doing so without any evidence the person being punished has engaged in violent acts, and without any due process.
You condone government violence on the basis of what the protestors think. Even worse, you condone government violence on the basis of what you think they think.
Are you really so one-eyed you can't see what precedent this has created for the way the government reacts to protest, and the way the media reports that reaction?
What do you think the next reactionary government in the US will do to the next civil rights movement?
Imagine if Trump had done to BLM supporters what Trudeau is doing to the Freedom Convoy supporters.
Sheesh, Manny. This is huge.
Just give your head a little wobble.
OK, now I'm curious. What does that mean?