Federal Election 2022

 
Topic moved from The Lounge by bevans on 17 Feb 2022 11:38
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
The Coalition is now ahead of Labor on Sportsbet:

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  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
The Coalition is now ahead of Labor on Sportsbet:

don_dunstan
Does not surprize me at all after this last week, now, I would consider myself a Labor voter if I did vote, but I'm afraid Albanese is not up to the task of leading the nation, he seems very unsure of himself, this is why I think the public will give Morrison another term (despite his mistakes in the past).
  Carnot Minister for Railways
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Greens Party being watermelons as usual. Green on the outside, Communists on the inside:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10728281/The-Greens-say-fears-China-build-military-base-Solomon-Islands-actually-racist.html
Carnot
I'm not sure why they think that sucking up to China will be a vote-winner.

Meanwhile Albo has scotched rumours that he is going to give Kevin Rudd the ambassadorship to the United States if he wins office... although Bill Shorten seemed to think that the rumour was correct when asked about it.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Good point.

  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Good point.

bevans
Errr, that would primarily be the Queensland State Government's fault, specifically, that of Anna Bligh (ALP). It was her government that allowed the Gladstone LNG export terminal to be built, and her government that took the decision that not only did they need to take a major royalty for exported gas, they didn't even need to insist guarantee of domestic supply ahead of export trade and profit.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Good point.

Errr, that would primarily be the Queensland State Government's fault, specifically, that of Anna Bligh (ALP). It was her government that allowed the Gladstone LNG export terminal to be built, and her government that took the decision that not only did they need to take a major royalty for exported gas, they didn't even need to insist guarantee of domestic supply ahead of export trade and profit.
Aaron
Also the builders of the plants were allowed to write down the cost of construction over a very long period of time and are still being given that tax concession.

I seem to recall they did go for a domestic reservation in WA but no other Australian state.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Good point.

bevans
Bad point, actually very bad and poorly researched.

1) States ste and collect royalities and Aaron comments explains more on the state ALP F-up there.

2) Qatar O&G is state owned, so they are not royalities as such, rather more profits

3) Qatar does not levy income, corporate and many other taxes, charges and levies. So the O&G industry is basically bankrolling the govt

4) Qatar O&G is also a very mature industry, Qld and NT gas plants are still fairly new.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
If the Liberals win this election, there'd better be a coup.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

I have always been of the belief that Australians were voting the Liberals out, not voting Labor in... Keep the faith comrades
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
If the Liberals win this election, there'd better be a coup.
Heihachi_73
Soo, who ever wins gets in because the majority of people have spoken but if its not your team its their fault they are wrong?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I have always been of the belief that Australians were voting the Liberals out, not voting Labor in... Keep the faith comrades
Yup. Rules of thumb,

1) Govts (all) loose elections, oppositions do not win them (ie 2007 & 2013).

2) Unpopular govts remain in power if Oppositions prove themselves less popular (ie 2019)


Another rule of thumb

When you see stickers, "don't blame me I voted X".
Well when X actually gets in power and they F'up, you can then blame him, he told you too (yes they are nearly always a he, women are not that stupid to put stickers like that on their car)
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

If the Liberals win this election, there'd better be a coup.
Heihachi_73
No, a functioning democracy is the pinnacle of society.
If the lnp manage to form a majority government, it’s a reflection on the members of said society. A few choice words come to mind.
Given the shenanigans of the NSW branch recently, a rebranding may be required. The MPP, Morrison Pentecostal party is a suggestion.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

And national security is their strong point?

  doyle Chief Commissioner

Yeah watching Morrison lie about the Pacific now.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Yeah watching Morrison lie about the Pacific now.
doyle
His lips are moving?
Fluffy toys to hurl at Tele, MD.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Very thankful that we dont have rego stickers anymore....
  doyle Chief Commissioner

He became inaudible about 6 or so minutes in, im sure your aim has improved Michael
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Listening to Krudd on national security.

There is an oxymoron.  Or perhaps just a ...
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Listening to Krudd on national security.

There is an oxymoron.  Or perhaps just a ...
Donald
Wasn't he being paid by the Chinese like Keating and Hawke? He should stop taking their money in protest.

I don't know why everyone is wringing their hands about the Chinese deal with the Solomons, The United States has 120+ foreign bases and the Chinese are just doing what they did in the fifties and sixties.

America is not an ascendant military power, China is. What are we going to do, try telling them they can't do what the United States did last century because we feel threatened by it? We could stop importing and exporting things to China but that's about it.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
News around is that there is not enough support going for both parties to form a majority government, of course with so much time to go this probably will change, but if it does not change, we could be looking at a hung parliament. then it will be trying to get the independents to do horse trading with either side.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Yes, it does look like both the Liberal-National and Labor-Greens coalitions will lose seats.
  8502 Assistant Commissioner

Watched the debate last night and IMHO Albo won that debate for the following observations

1. The questions were more left leaning questions than scomo would have liked suggesting the LMP were not ready for those questions but also the thinking in Australia is not linked to all the issues the LNP would like
2. Scomo's choice of words about Ethan the child with a disability were poor.
3. Integrity is a major issue with government and the LNP have tried to avoid the ICAC that will backfire
4. Albo is more sincere but Scomo is great with numbers and facts

Albo is right when he says we need to shape the future. If you consider what we have been provided by the last 10 years of LNP no real ground breaking projects that have delivered future value.  It does fall to the ALP to deliver the big changes in our world.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Watched the debate last night and IMHO Albo won that debate for the following observations

1. The questions were more left leaning questions than scomo would have liked suggesting the LMP were not ready for those questions but also the thinking in Australia is not linked to all the issues the LNP would like
2. Scomo's choice of words about Ethan the child with a disability were poor.
3. Integrity is a major issue with government and the LNP have tried to avoid the ICAC that will backfire
4. Albo is more sincere but Scomo is great with numbers and facts

Albo is right when he says we need to shape the future. If you consider what we have been provided by the last 10 years of LNP no real ground breaking projects that have delivered future value.  It does fall to the ALP to deliver the big changes in our world.
8502
On the first part, I didn't watch, but seems to be the general feeling. Yes, don't go up aganst SCOMO on a number fight, you wil loose.

2nd part, not sure why you feel that and if so what was "the big change" by ALP last time?
  ANR Chief Commissioner

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