Federal Election 2022

 
Topic moved from The Lounge by bevans on 17 Feb 2022 11:38
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
If Morrison did a preference deal with UAP in coalition marginal seats or wherever else, would Morrison still sign the WHO treaty?
Morrison would do a deal with Adam Banyt, if it meant retaining the big chair.
michaelgm
Bandt wouldn't do a deal with Morrison though - they're too far apart on ideology. UAP or PHON are more likely to do deals to keep the LNP in power, but the Greens and the Teals will do deals to get Labor in.

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  ANR Chief Commissioner

After yesterday's disaster in Perth where Albo ran away from journalists asking questions about Labor's spending program and their costs, they've decided to send Shorten out today to break down the figures for the media.

Labor have somehow managed to turn this into a question about Albo's capacity to be Prime Minister - Shorten might have failed in 2019 but he didn't squib hard questions with the media, he tried to answer. Albo runs away... not a good sign.
don_dunstan
I think the "faceless men" from the Krudd-Gillard-Krudd era might be still around somewhere if Albo's prime ministerial capacity should be called into question (assuming the ALP wins).
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
After yesterday's disaster in Perth where Albo ran away from journalists asking questions about Labor's spending program and their costs, they've decided to send Shorten out today to break down the figures for the media.

Labor have somehow managed to turn this into a question about Albo's capacity to be Prime Minister - Shorten might have failed in 2019 but he didn't squib hard questions with the media, he tried to answer. Albo runs away... not a good sign.
I think the "faceless men" from the Krudd-Gillard-Krudd era might be still around somewhere if Albo's prime ministerial capacity should be called into question (assuming the ALP wins).
ANR
You have to wonder if we might be in for another Rudd/Gillard/Rudd disaster given what happened last time. And the problem was they were so focused on their own internal strife that nothing got done, important decisions not made. I know the Liberals weren't much better with Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison but at least things settled down eventually.

I still can't forgive Gillard for some of the appalling decisions she made when PM, scrapped RSPT (which could have properly taxed the windfall of a century), ignored the suffering inflicted on people through VET FEE HELP and the sharks selling people $80,000 laptops, gave away 457's like they were confetti - nearly everything she did hobbled Australia's future taxation base and made things worse for the working poor despite the fact that she was ostensibly from the left faction of the ALP.

Albo is (like Gillard) from the left faction - it has me seriously worried that we're in for more of the same.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

SA Premier might lose it for Albo... Crazy.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
SA Premier might lose it for Albo... Crazy.
Carnot
And people blame LNP Fed for all the bad stuff from CV-19? The States are accountable for the response, management and enforecement.

Anyway, I still think Albo will be the PM come Sunday, but I said that about BS 3 years ago. So what do I know?
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
SA Premier might lose it for Albo... Crazy.
Carnot
What a shock that Malinauskus turned out to be a wannabe Hitler even worse than Dan Andrews... here he is talking about jailing people who go to hospital with COVID19 (in all seriousness?) - the problem is he's likely to get this legislation through with the cooperation of the Greens and SA Best:



At least Sarah Game, the new One Nation Legislative Council MP is trying to get amendments through to time limit the changes and make sure they can only be used in an actual emergency - ABC;

Freshly elected One Nation MLC Sarah Game has flagged her intention to introduce amendments too, which she said will safeguard democracy and "fundamental individual rights".

"This is an attempt to permanently enshrine COVID-19 powers while removing legislative safeguards under the Public Health Act, that until now have only been exercised under a declared emergency," Ms Game said.

"This is not democratic, this is not 'living with' COVID-19 and this is not what South Australians voted for."
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

At least the maximum penalty has been reduced from the originally proposed two trips on the Overland.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
At least the maximum penalty has been reduced from the originally proposed two trips on the Overland.
justapassenger
Were they one way, or return trips?
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The current scheduling (where it takes Thursday to Monday to use the train to go to a Friday night footy match at the MCG) means that return trips would take it from ‘cruel’ into ‘cruel and unusual.’
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The current scheduling (where it takes Thursday to Monday to use the train to go to a Friday night footy match at the MCG) means that return trips would take it from ‘cruel’ into ‘cruel and unusual.’
justapassenger
The timetable certainly does bring ‘unusual’ to it.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

And people blame LNP Fed for all the bad stuff from CV-19? The States are accountable for the response, management and enforecement.

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RTT_Rules
Vaccination Plan A was, at Morrison's insistence, to be carried out by GPs alone dealing directly with the Commonwealth government. It was the States that stepped in. It was Morrison's "It's not a race" that caused extra lock-downs.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Pauline Hanson has COVID19... at least she has a sense of humour about it!

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Australia can finally boast its lowest unemployment rate since 1974, after the key jobless measure dropped to 3.9 per cent in April.

The historic milestone was confirmed by official labour force statistics this morning, which showed an additional 4000 jobs were added last month, tipping unemployment below 4 per cent for the first time in 48 years.

Underemployment – which measures those with jobs but who want to work more hours – fell from 6.3 per cent to 6.1 per cent, the seasonally adjusted figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed.

Both the Morrison government and Reserve Bank have dedicated extraordinary stimulus measures through the pandemic to achieve a once-in-a generation opportunity to reach full employment.
  Carnot Minister for Railways
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
This is my final prediction for tomorrow's election- hung parliament.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

No.. No hung parliament.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Labor minimum 78 seats

Can't wait for Leigh Sales to leave 7.30
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
Can't wait for Leigh Sales to leave 7.30
doyle
Dunno about that.

LS spouted a few of the usual distortions we've heard from the pack over these past weeks.
But being one on one, AA could stand his ground and get his point across without a shouty interuption ( comparative anyways).

Pretty tame compared to the pack.

LS does have manners and class. A lesson to the young work experience kids on how to push hard with respect.

We can then make up our own minds on what AA has or hasn't said.
  Transtopic Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
It's looking like the proverbial drover's dog (aka Albo) might win after all.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Ten years of Leigh Sales its just way tooooo much for me, sorry i found her interviewing style bland and one sided not sure if class is it i dont see it, watching her and Crabb swoon over Turnbull when he was PM was more than i could take
Im so looking forward to Sarah Ferguson, i reckon Ferguson is more impartial but probably more combative.

Now to move Q&A back to Mondays yes?
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
No.. No hung parliament.
doyle
I'm not so sure. I really have no clue as to how this will turn out - I was convinced Shorten would win by around 7 seats last time and it just didn't happen that way did it.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Australia can finally boast its lowest unemployment rate since 1974, after the key jobless measure dropped to 3.9 per cent in April.

The historic milestone was confirmed by official labour force statistics this morning, which showed an additional 4000 jobs were added last month, tipping unemployment below 4 per cent for the first time in 48 years.

Underemployment – which measures those with jobs but who want to work more hours – fell from 6.3 per cent to 6.1 per cent, the seasonally adjusted figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed.

Both the Morrison government and Reserve Bank have dedicated extraordinary stimulus measures through the pandemic to achieve a once-in-a generation opportunity to reach full employment.
bevans
Happened during the Mining boom, twice I believe. So basically three times in a generation.

The challenge for the next govt is the elephant in the room on immigration and work visas. Clearly the major restriction in both of these has assisted the current employment status, but at same time is starving some industries of labour/skills/talent. However there is likely a global recession on the horizon.

Additionally high immigrantion places stress on existing congested infrastructure, but immigration is a fast way to dilute debt as % capita and GDP and increase revenue to fund the same.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

My predictions:

- The opinion polls will get it wrong again.

- Many safe ALP seats will see a big vote for minor parties - largely as a protest vote against authoritarianism.

- The Senate results will surprise.



- Antony Green will dispute the computer forecasts and will describe it all as "A Dumpster Fire".
  doyle Chief Commissioner

"I'm not so sure. I really have no clue as to how this will turn out - I was convinced Shorten would win by around 7 seats last time and it just didn't happen that way did it.
Don Dunstan

Mrs Doyle picked 2019 exactly, it went down hill for Shorten as soon as the Bully kept saying tax tax tax, and of course the kill bill strategy, this time people know who Morrison really is.

I still reckon 78 minimum
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
"I'm not so sure. I really have no clue as to how this will turn out - I was convinced Shorten would win by around 7 seats last time and it just didn't happen that way did it.
Don Dunstan

Mrs Doyle picked 2019 exactly, it went down hill for Shorten as soon as the Bully kept saying tax tax tax, and of course the kill bill strategy, this time people know who Morrison really is.

I still reckon 78 minimum
doyle
I thought LNP was cooked last time along with almost most others as its seems and all wrong.

This time, I feel the mood of the room of social media is more negative towards SCOMO and LNP and opnion polls more negative and hence I think LNP will loose and agree ALP by 5 -10 seats.

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