Covid restrictions?

 
  tpw Locomotive Fireman

A mate of mine mentioned that there are rail limitations for cargo trains going to Central Coast area due to Covid limits. Saying previously could get up to 5 trains per day but now stuck at 2 trains. Unsure how much truth there is but I was surprised that there's still Covid limitations.

Anyone has any idea about this limit and any truth to it reducing cargo trains?

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  viaprojects Assistant Commissioner



Anyone has any idea about this limit and any truth to it reducing cargo trains?
tpw

would skip the covid thing .. only issue was the flood issues .. some one will post a time table of some sorts ...
  tpw Locomotive Fireman

I thought the flood issues have largely been fixed. I recall a separate thread on it back in May with the issues near Lithgow preventing coal trains to Central Coast, etc.
  ozibob Assistant Commissioner

Location: Parkes Australia
MIght have something to do with the derailment up near the nsw/qld border the other day.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
A mate of mine mentioned that there are rail limitations for cargo trains going to Central Coast area due to Covid limits. Saying previously could get up to 5 trains per day but now stuck at 2 trains. Unsure how much truth there is but I was surprised that there's still Covid limitations.

Anyone has any idea about this limit and any truth to it reducing cargo trains?
tpw

Which pub was this at Razz

As mentioned above there are no through freight services to/from Brisbane for a few days due to a derailment near Kyogle

COVID continues to have impacts in businesses all over the place due to employee absences - the rail industry has probably handled it better than most. In this case it has no bearing.
  tpw Locomotive Fireman


Which pub was this at Razz

As mentioned above there are no through freight services to/from Brisbane for a few days due to a derailment near Kyogle

COVID continues to have impacts in businesses all over the place due to employee absences - the rail industry has probably handled it better than most. In this case it has no bearing.
bingley hall


I just asked him again, sounds like he heard it from the investor call this morning about Eraring power station not getting enough coal. One of the reason the CEO gave was that they are having difficulties getting more coal train due to Covid restrictions. Only getting 2 trains per day compared to 4 or 5 max allowable. Something about asking the govt to remove the restrictions.

I think a few articles mentioned about Eraring having coal issues from their presentation this morning but I don't have the transcript to confirm what my mate was saying.

I don't know but I'm kinda surprised Covid restrictions is to blame for not getting enough train capacity.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville

Which pub was this at Razz

As mentioned above there are no through freight services to/from Brisbane for a few days due to a derailment near Kyogle

COVID continues to have impacts in businesses all over the place due to employee absences - the rail industry has probably handled it better than most. In this case it has no bearing.

I just asked him again, sounds like he heard it from the investor call this morning about Eraring power station not getting enough coal. One of the reason the CEO gave was that they are having difficulties getting more coal train due to Covid restrictions. Only getting 2 trains per day compared to 4 or 5 max allowable. Something about asking the govt to remove the restrictions.

I think a few articles mentioned about Eraring having coal issues from their presentation this morning but I don't have the transcript to confirm what my mate was saying.

I don't know but I'm kinda surprised Covid restrictions is to blame for not getting enough train capacity.
tpw

That makes things a bit clearer, now we know we are taking about coal to Eraring and not freight in general, but .....

Here is a link to an article published yesterday quoting Origin Energy's CEO (the owners of Eraring) and there is no mention of COVID.

https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/get-coal-power-plants-working-again-origin-ceo-20220601-p5aqbg

Here is yesterday's Origin investor update, and there is no mention of COVID

https://www.originenergy.com.au/about/investors-media/update-on-operating-conditions-and-guidance/  

Both links refer to coal supply issues from the local Centennial mine (no rail involved) and the need to to buy in spot supply.

The three Centennial rakes operated by SSR are tied up on export duties, so no extra capacity there.

Do other operators have spare locos, wagons and crews lying around doing nothing just waiting for a call from the Eraring CEO to provide spot capacity? He probably thinks the government still run the railways Razz

Maybe crewing is the big issue because of COVID absences. A quick Google tells me NSW has no close contact restrictions, so  I'm still not sure what restrictions he might be talking about?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

SSR, must run the occasional train to Vale’s Point and Eraring?
VP.. and ER.. visible on Anytrip tracker.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
SSR, must run the occasional train to Vale’s Point and Eraring?
VP.. and ER.. visible on Anytrip tracker.
michaelgm

They run where Centennial tell them to.

At the moment its NCIG at Kooragang, next week it could be Vales Point, the next week it could be Eraring - sometimes it's all three at the same time. It can change at the drop of a hat.
  tpw Locomotive Fireman



That makes things a bit clearer, now we know we are taking about coal to Eraring and not freight in general, but .....

Here is a link to an article published yesterday quoting Origin Energy's CEO (the owners of Eraring) and there is no mention of COVID.

https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/get-coal-power-plants-working-again-origin-ceo-20220601-p5aqbg

Here is yesterday's Origin investor update, and there is no mention of COVID

https://www.originenergy.com.au/about/investors-media/update-on-operating-conditions-and-guidance/  

Both links refer to coal supply issues from the local Centennial mine (no rail involved) and the need to to buy in spot supply.

The three Centennial rakes operated by SSR are tied up on export duties, so no extra capacity there.

Do other operators have spare locos, wagons and crews lying around doing nothing just waiting for a call from the Eraring CEO to provide spot capacity? He probably thinks the government still run the railways Razz

Maybe crewing is the big issue because of COVID absences. A quick Google tells me NSW has no close contact restrictions, so  I'm still not sure what restrictions he might be talking about?
bingley hall

Yeah looks like could be crewing issue and getting rail capacity but unknow if crewing issues are recent or not. My mate sent me this extract from the call yesterday:

The key aspect in terms of ramping it even further is getting access to more rail capacity. And that's -- the strategy has been that for some time, and we've been executing against it. We have seen very recently, not to add to this, but just to highlight that we've also seen through COVID and then bunch of -- a number of operational factors on rail that there's been a higher cancellation rate as well. So that's a very recent phenomenon. But nevertheless, clearly, we will be focused on the diversification, but the rail loaded coal will be -- there will be an upper limit. As Greg says, if you can get to 4 trains a day, that would actually boost that supply, but that would represent at the upper limit of what you can bring by rail.


They would be in a tough spot to get coal if they have to compete for rail access with everyone else. Not helping with power prices here unfortunately.
  tpw Locomotive Fireman

A bit more news on the ABC article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-02/australia-s-biggest-power-station-running-out-of-coal-at-a-time-/101120400

Perhaps I should change the topic from Covid Restrictions to Energy Catastrophe Laughing

They will probably need to pressure the govt to get the miners to send coal to them or clear up the rail line for their deliveries. Seems like a tough ask though.

BTW, I'm taking a drive up to Central Coast one of these days and might try doing some train spotting. Where's a good spot to see coal trains for the power stations in Central Coast? Also, any idea how to check for the train schedules?
  tpw Locomotive Fireman

Is Awaba station a good spot to look at coal trains for Central Coast? Just taking a quick look at Google maps.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Is Awaba station a good spot to look at coal trains for Central Coast? Just taking a quick look at Google maps.
tpw

Best to bear in mind that most trains to the two powers station run as required, so while they have to go through Awaba you could easily sit there and see none heading to either Vales Point or Eraring. The SSR rakes are still running export coal through to Kooragang. Eraring is getting some trains from north of Newcastle operated by PN, but I think these run at night?
  tpw Locomotive Fireman


Best to bear in mind that most trains to the two powers station run as required, so while they have to go through Awaba you could easily sit there and see none heading to either Vales Point or Eraring. The SSR rakes are still running export coal through to Kooragang. Eraring is getting some trains from north of Newcastle operated by PN, but I think these run at night?
bingley hall


Yeah good point about overnight runs. Last thing I want to do is waiting all night for a train that may not be running. Very Happy

There's no schedule that one can check, right?

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