ARG/QR Locos and movements

 
  Kafoopsy Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA











I heard that the crews of the south west loved the ACNs and were reluctant to give them up when they were transferred up north! Pity they didn't put real horns on them.
I think they are a good looking loco. I'd like to see one in ARG yellow.

"Kafoopsy"


I can see why they would have loved them, more crew comforts than a old DB/DD!! They were even using the ACN's on the Works Trains at one point during the upgrade. Horn's are not to bad, the engine sounds of them working in notch 8 make up for it Smile
"P2017"


Is it just me, or do they make more noise then an S class?

Lol when they were down here i was like, argh, another ACN, it seemed like they were everywhere. I wondered where the S class went?. Well it would be nice to have a couple. They may use them up the hill ? There are a couple trains that need some grunt, such as the caustic train. That gets up to 20 wagons these days. Didnt ever see one on the caustic train though, strangely, i dont know why. If AC traction will do a better job, it would have been interesting to see how it went. Remember also there are 3 DD class locos down here. One alumina train has 2 DD class on it.

"DBclass"


When they have been working the ore trains up here in Geraldton they sound similar to a SD70 up north!

"P2017"


Yeah they roar a lot.

"DBclass"


Yes, that kind of might should be matched with at least  Nathan K5LA or even better, a Leslie S5.  Not the two tone squeekers they have now.

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  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia

I didnt think this was worthy of a thread. Last night I was watching an S class leading a DB class, both in power hauling the caustic train to Worsley Alumina. The S class prime mover speeds up at a controlled rate, for emissions reasons i believe? The DB generally goes like hell when notching up. When these two were MU'd together, it seemed as though the DB was matching the S class in rate of acceleration of the prime mover. Notching up slow like an S class. I havent noticed this before, or maybe its my ears playing tricks. Can anyone confirm? Note that the S class was leading.

I know when a DB or D leads an S, they do their own thing, the D will take of the S will slowly wind up.

  P2017 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton



I didnt think this was worthy of a thread. Last night I was watching an S class leading a DB class, both in power hauling the caustic train to Worsley Alumina. The S class prime mover speeds up at a controlled rate, for emissions reasons i believe? The DB generally goes like hell when notching up. When these two were MU'd together, it seemed as though the DB was matching the S class in rate of acceleration of the prime mover. Notching up slow like an S class. I havent noticed this before, or maybe its my ears playing tricks. Can anyone confirm? Note that the S class was leading.

I know when a DB or D leads an S, they do their own thing, the D will take of the S will slowly wind up.

"DBclass"


DFZ's Power up before a P class, you see them actually pull the P when they go to start.

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia





I didnt think this was worthy of a thread. Last night I was watching an S class leading a DB class, both in power hauling the caustic train to Worsley Alumina. The S class prime mover speeds up at a controlled rate, for emissions reasons i believe? The DB generally goes like hell when notching up. When these two were MU'd together, it seemed as though the DB was matching the S class in rate of acceleration of the prime mover. Notching up slow like an S class. I havent noticed this before, or maybe its my ears playing tricks. Can anyone confirm? Note that the S class was leading.

I know when a DB or D leads an S, they do their own thing, the D will take of the S will slowly wind up.

"DBclass"


DFZ's Power up before a P class, you see them actually pull the P when they go to start.

"P2017"


What about when a P leads?

  P2017 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton







I didnt think this was worthy of a thread. Last night I was watching an S class leading a DB class, both in power hauling the caustic train to Worsley Alumina. The S class prime mover speeds up at a controlled rate, for emissions reasons i believe? The DB generally goes like hell when notching up. When these two were MU'd together, it seemed as though the DB was matching the S class in rate of acceleration of the prime mover. Notching up slow like an S class. I havent noticed this before, or maybe its my ears playing tricks. Can anyone confirm? Note that the S class was leading.

I know when a DB or D leads an S, they do their own thing, the D will take of the S will slowly wind up.

"DBclass"


DFZ's Power up before a P class, you see them actually pull the P when they go to start.

"P2017"


What about when a P leads?

"DBclass"

Same thing the DFZ seems to get off first. Seen this when they are unloading in the Port.

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Interesting. They are from different builders however. Whether that has any effect. I will note that the trailing DB i saw was 2311 i think, one of the Aurizon painted ones. So its possible that its had a modification to its own engine control. But i do not recall hearing any difference in aceleration, except what sounded like a bearing whine from the alternator (havent heard it before). I might have to chase it on the weekend and see what i can see.
  wn514 Chief Commissioner

Location: at a skyhooks concert living in the 70's



Interesting. They are from different builders however. Whether that has any effect. I will note that the trailing DB i saw was 2311 i think, one of the Aurizon painted ones. So its possible that its had a modification to its own engine control. But i do not recall hearing any difference in aceleration, except what sounded like a bearing whine from the alternator (havent heard it before). I might have to chase it on the weekend and see what i can see.

"DBclass"
the DBZ has a ZTR traction control system in it which gives a slower but more controlled response to the throttle.

  P2017 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton





Interesting. They are from different builders however. Whether that has any effect. I will note that the trailing DB i saw was 2311 i think, one of the Aurizon painted ones. So its possible that its had a modification to its own engine control. But i do not recall hearing any difference in aceleration, except what sounded like a bearing whine from the alternator (havent heard it before). I might have to chase it on the weekend and see what i can see.

"DBclass"
the DBZ has a ZTR traction control system in it which gives a slower but more controlled response to the throttle.

"wn514"


DFZ's have the Traction Control System as well.



  doggie015 Junior Train Controller

Location: On a bus going from esplanade busport to canning bridge so I can catch a train to Esplanade station

Spotted 3117 and 3107 hauling empty containers at thornlie station this morning.

http://imgur.com/zZhRWf0,VKMGjaV#0

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
I can only think the DB class is mimiking the S class. I dont know how the control works though. It is possible im mistaken, and the DB class is acting 'normal' for reasons said above. But i saw a DB class on a coal train, and it went from notch 4 to 5 under load real quick. Makes me wonder.
  P2017 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton

Sightings today:

P2512 hauling a short rake of old ore wagons up the Mullewa line to ruvidinni

P2513-DFZ2403-P2502 on a 90 wagon ore at Narngulu

P2516-DFZ2404 heading into the port on a loaded ore

Outside the service shed was P2514-DFZ2407 and a unknown p class.

Cheers

David

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Does anyone know what the hold up on the south west main yesterday was? The Australind was still in Brunswick Junction at 5pm, and the train DD2359+2355 was hauling parked in the loop, with the two DD's run north to pull a failed train im guessing. The Australind normally departs at 3pm ish. Id say it was cancelled and a bus put on in the end, as it would have not made it to Perth on time for the return journey anyway.
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring



Does anyone know what the hold up on the south west main yesterday was? The Australind was still in Brunswick Junction at 5pm, and the train DD2359+2355 was hauling parked in the loop, with the two DD's run north to pull a failed train im guessing. The Australind normally departs at 3pm ish. Id say it was cancelled and a bus put on in the end, as it would have not made it to Perth on time for the return journey anyway.

"DBclass"


DD2356 caught fire at Wagerup working 903 caustic south.

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia





Does anyone know what the hold up on the south west main yesterday was? The Australind was still in Brunswick Junction at 5pm, and the train DD2359+2355 was hauling parked in the loop, with the two DD's run north to pull a failed train im guessing. The Australind normally departs at 3pm ish. Id say it was cancelled and a bus put on in the end, as it would have not made it to Perth on time for the return journey anyway.

"DBclass"


DD2356 caught fire at Wagerup working 903 caustic south.

"8888"


Do you know if there was much damage?

  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring







Does anyone know what the hold up on the south west main yesterday was? The Australind was still in Brunswick Junction at 5pm, and the train DD2359+2355 was hauling parked in the loop, with the two DD's run north to pull a failed train im guessing. The Australind normally departs at 3pm ish. Id say it was cancelled and a bus put on in the end, as it would have not made it to Perth on time for the return journey anyway.

"DBclass"


DD2356 caught fire at Wagerup working 903 caustic south.

"8888"


Do you know if there was much damage?

"DBclass"


I don't know, but its future must be shaky with new loco arrivals.

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Thanks 8888. Im hoping it was towed to Picton I will see tomorrow if it was. They dont seem to do a whole lot in the SW anymore, hauling only the shortest trains on what seem to be the easiest runs. I can only see their up side being DOO. Which even the DB class seem to be these days so even that is not much of an upside. There are 3 if I am correct in the south west at the moment. I cannot remember but i think there was 6 or so that come over wasnt there? I havent got the MP magazine handy.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia



Thanks 8888. Im hoping it was towed to Picton I will see tomorrow if it was. They dont seem to do a whole lot in the SW anymore, hauling only the shortest trains on what seem to be the easiest runs. I can only see their up side being DOO. Which even the DB class seem to be these days so even that is not much of an upside. There are 3 if I am correct in the south west at the moment. I cannot remember but i think there was 6 or so that come over wasnt there? I havent got the MP magazine handy.

"DBclass"


I saw the unit this afternoon. Damage seems to be on the generator part of the hood. Does not appear to be too much, but will depend on what actually caught fire.

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
DAZ 1901 seems to be on rail recovery trains.
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse

Has anyone seen P2511 with the maroon lettering of "AURIZON" replacing the "ARG a QR Company" logo yet? The photo is from the Trains of WA website


I suppose all diesels owned by Aurizon with the ARG Yellow livery with maroon lining, will have the same treatment as P2511.

  JNSymes Junior Train Controller




Has anyone seen P2511 with the maroon lettering of "AURIZON" replacing the "ARG a QR Company" logo yet? The photo is from the Trains of WA website


I suppose all diesels owned by Aurizon with the ARG Yellow livery with maroon lining, will have the same treatment as P2511.

"jt393"


It looks like an MS paint edit of a Photo that would occur on some forums...............

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Yes this is a better than average photo shop. You can still tell, but I had to enlarge the photo to really see. The internet can be wonderfull. I saw a video on you tube of a train, world record length it reconed. Pulled by only 2 or 3 pissy locos, with mostly empty and some loaded wagons, they were container well's. It was fake, the wagons come past in the same order, the same distance apart every time. It was just a normal train looped in a video. Something about crying wolf ?
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
DAZ 1906 is still in Picton. Its been a while since we had 2! DA class in town. Pretty sure D1562 is here as well hiding in the trees at Picton. So we have D, DA, DB and DD class down here.
  Calla Station Master

Location: at the pub..... AWOL



DAZ 1906 is still in Picton. Its been a while since we had 2! DA class in town. Pretty sure D1562 is here as well hiding in the trees at Picton. So we have D, DA, DB and DD class down here.

"DBclass"


D1562 has been chilling in Kwinana yard for the last weekish, just north of the maintenance sheds. Seen it yesterday, dunno if it headed down your way today DB Class. The 2 angled vents either side of the no1 end (dynamic brakes?????), with the yellow/black stripes on the ends, look tops!

  JNSymes Junior Train Controller




Yes this is a better than average photo shop. You can still tell, but I had to enlarge the photo to really see. The internet can be wonderfull. I saw a video on you tube of a train, world record length it reconed. Pulled by only 2 or 3 pissy locos, with mostly empty and some loaded wagons, they were container well's. It was fake, the wagons come past in the same order, the same distance apart every time. It was just a normal train looped in a video. Something about crying wolf ?

"DBclass"


That's not what I was referring to....

I was making a comment about the 'cheapness' of the rebranding effort.

  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia





Yes this is a better than average photo shop. You can still tell, but I had to enlarge the photo to really see. The internet can be wonderfull. I saw a video on you tube of a train, world record length it reconed. Pulled by only 2 or 3 pissy locos, with mostly empty and some loaded wagons, they were container well's. It was fake, the wagons come past in the same order, the same distance apart every time. It was just a normal train looped in a video. Something about crying wolf ?

"DBclass"


That's not what I was referring to....

I was making a comment about the 'cheapness' of the rebranding effort.

"JNSymes"


Ah right, I didnt pay to much attention to that, just the way the letters fit in with everything else.

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