Locations on the Darwin Line

 
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The list I have starts after Tarcoola. The distances are from Port Augusta.

510.850km Northgate BP
555.000km 555 Quarry
566.500km Carnes
641.000km Wirrida
706.500km Manguri
830.500km Cadney Park
909.000km Marla
965.500km Chandler
1021.000km Marryat
1081.500km Kulgera
1163.500km Impanda
1244.500km Hugh River
1313.000km Mereenie Siding
1318.000km Roe Creek
1335.000km Alice Springs
1400.000km 1400 BP
1449.000km 1449 BP
1503.000km 1503 BP
1564.250km Illoquara
1622.000km 1622 BP
1664.000km 1664 BP
1735.000km 1735 BP
1802.500km Tennant Creek
1900.000km 1900 BP
2004.000km 2004 BP
2093.000km Newcastle Waters
2222.000km 2222 BP
2343.000km 2343 BP
2446.500km Katherine
2553.000km 2553 BP
2662.000km 2662 BP
2750.000km Berrimah (Darwin)

BP = Block point.
The locations are the center of the location, ie: yards and crossing loops.

I hope this information is of use.

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Shacks,

Could you double check the Port Augusta bit - I have a feeling that it might be Pirie. Tarcoola is 504km from Pirie if that helps.

Many thanks.
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The list I have says at the bottom "All distances are from Port Augusta".
  E1109 Minister for Railways

Location: Bright sunny Darwin
Aren't all the distances for the Darwin line taken from Spencer Junction. Some are taken from Port Pirie but for the life of me can't remember which ones. Its been here in the forums before, will hunt down later.
  chrisr001 Chief Commissioner

pretty sure all ARTC distances (to tarcoola, and old data for alice) is from port pirie (not adelaide or port augusta)
  ike1 Assistant Commissioner

all distance are from port pirie

sorry shacks you have missed a few b p (block points )

pootnoura b p at 767.267

1849 b p
1952 b p
2058 b p
2147 b p
2268 b p
2388 b p
2495 b p
2606 b p
2713 b p  

ike 1
  E1109 Minister for Railways

Location: Bright sunny Darwin
Couple of other landmarks:

The Gardens Road level crossing is at 1384km

Plenty Highway level crossing (lights & bells) 1419 km
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
Sorry Ike, I was going by the list I was given when the line first opened. I also forgot Muckety Siding. I guess a few have been added since the line was built.
  ike1 Assistant Commissioner

Muckaty siding is still not an offical siding yet

ike1
  rocket66 Deputy Commissioner

Location: All over the place at the moment !
It is now..
  GM32 Station Master

What km post is Muckaty Siding please?
  rocket66 Deputy Commissioner

Location: All over the place at the moment !
I have it listed as 1932 km peg
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
The distance would be based from the Northern tip of the Triange at Port Pirie, which is 0. Tarcoola is located at 504.5km along this alignment. The Northgate Block Point is considered the interface point from the ARTC Train control & ARG Transport Control, ie a Southbound Train must have Authority from ARTC to proceed beyond NorthGate towards Tarcoola.

Memory serves, that the 555 Siding is actually owned by ARTC.
  Maaaark Deputy Commissioner

Location: Pilbara, WA
The distance would be based from the Northern tip of the Triange at Port Pirie, which is 0.
"witsend"


Yes, the distances are from the 0km peg at Coonamia. Spencer Junction is at the 95km.

The Northgate Block Point is considered the interface point from the ARTC Train control & ARG Transport Control
"witsend"


Interestingly, ARTC refer to it only as Northgate, and GWA transport Control call it Northgate BP.

Also, the 2553 BP has now become Union Reef (2554km).
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
It has always been called Northgate, the BP part comes into play as it is the start of the Northgate Block Point. On this end of the line the first section out of Berrimah yards is called Berrimah BP.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
What's a Union Reef ?
  DM45 Station Master

Location: Redland City
Union Reefs is a gold mine near Pine Creek, just south of Darwin. It's now owned by Crocodile Gold who have opened other mines in the area. AFAIK the ore gets shipped to Darwin by rail, but I stand corrected on this.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Union Reefs is a gold mine near Pine Creek, just south of Darwin. It's now owned by Crocodile Gold who have opened other mines in the area. AFAIK the ore gets shipped to Darwin by rail, but I stand corrected on this.
"DM45"


Ok thanks

When I was on the GHAN the other week there was an announcement that the GHAN was following a Iron Ore train and the GHAN would overtake the Ore train at Union Reefs.

As far as I know that never happened

Somewhere around that area was a siding, that looked like a ballast siding (to me)
Well I was playing cards with some Canadian backpackers and the all stoped to take photos of the purple coloured rocks.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
The "Ballast" siding would most likely have been the Union Reefs loading area
  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)
Union Reefs is a gold mine near Pine Creek, just south of Darwin. It's now owned by Crocodile Gold who have opened other mines in the area. AFAIK the ore gets shipped to Darwin by rail, but I stand corrected on this.
"DM45"


Ok thanks

When I was on the GHAN the other week there was an announcement that the GHAN was following a Iron Ore train and the GHAN would overtake the Ore train at Union Reefs.

As far as I know that never happened

Somewhere around that area was a siding, that looked like a ballast siding (to me)
Well I was playing cards with some Canadian backpackers and the all stoped to take photos of the purple coloured rocks.
"Nightfire"


Passing the iron ore train (empty) would have happened at the siding you describe, known as Union Reefs, near Pine Creek, which is about 200km south of Darwin on the Stuart Highway. The iron ore comes from the mine at Frances Creek, about 15km east of Pine Creek. The mine was reopened in 2007, having closed previously in 1974. I worked there in 1969. The ore is carried by road (along the track of the previous NG branch from the old NAR that served the mine before it closed in 1974) to the siding which happens to be nearer Union Reefs, a gold mine near Pine Creek which was disused but seems to have reopened very recently. The siding and iron ore trains have been referred to as Union Reefs ever since the iron ore mine reopened, whereas they should technically be called Frances Creek. Your description of the siding as looking like a ballast siding with purple-coloured ballast is perfect - the ore is haematite, which is glistening purple in colour.


Cheers.

Martyn
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
On Iron Ore

At the East arm wharf area the Iron Ore stock pile Is like 2 km's from the ship loader (on the wharf)

At the moment the ore Is road trained between the two.

Is there any plans to build a conveyor belt linking to stock pile and the ship loaded to reduce the amount of dust that Is all over the road ?
  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)
On Iron Ore

At the East arm wharf area the Iron Ore stock pile Is like 2 km's from the ship loader (on the wharf)

At the moment the ore Is road trained between the two.

Is there any plans to build a conveyor belt linking to stock pile and the ship loaded to reduce the amount of dust that Is all over the road ?
"Nightfire"


The existing iron ore transport process from mine to ship seems to be very inefficient, with multiple loading/unloading from road train to rail train and vice versa. The only really efficient part is the rail part. I would guess that the owners of the Frances Creek mine might well be talking to other parties like NT Gov't and the rail operators about the situation at East Arm.  

BTW, Nightfire, I thought you might be interested in these frames from some video that I took from the Ghan passing the Union Reefs siding in May last year.

  Wiseone Locomotive Fireman

Location: Darwin. NT
Time to clear up a few comments and misconceptions for various NT threads.

It is Union Reef, not Union Reefs. (It is not accessible to the general public, every chance you will get run over by a road train ex Brock's Creek and Grove Hill gold mines)
Iron Ore is hauled out of there, not gold.
The Ghan is a pain in the but for a train that runs one and a quarter times a week (on average).

Darwin Passenger terminal was never meant to be in the middle of a goods yard. It was supposed to be out at Palmerston in the original plans.
The walk way someone mentioned is in a no go area. A balloon loop was planned to go there (hopefully will one day).
The conveyor belt system up the wharf has now been funded. The NT Government has better things to waste its money on apparently.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland


Darwin Passenger terminal was never meant to be in the middle of a goods yard. It was supposed to be out at Palmerston in the original plans.
The walk way someone mentioned is in a no go area.
"Wiseone"


I was wondering why the passenger terminal wasn't built near Palmerston

I concluded that It would of costed more, as a platform loop road would of needed to have been built.

As to at Berrimah the track used for the terminating GHAN would of been part of the freight terminal anyway (when the GHAN's not at the station the platform track Is used by other trains)
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland


BTW, Nightfire, I thought you might be interested in these frames from some video that I took from the Ghan passing the Union Reefs siding in May last year.

"mdhughes"


Yes that's the place.

The GHAN I was on was traveling along the siding at ~ 20 km/h

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