Williams Landing railway station?

 
  Brendan03 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Apparently preliminary works started ahead of schedule, late last week.
Preliminary works have started on the new railway station and road overpass to service growing residential areas at Williams Landing, as part of the Brumby Labor Government’s major investment in transport infrastructure in the western suburbs.

Roads and Ports Minister Tim Pallas and Public Transport Minister Martin Pakula were joined by Member for Altona Jill Hennessy to mark the start of works today on a vital project for residents in Point Cook and surrounding areas.

“The Brumby Labor Government supports sustainable population growth and is determined to link it with new job opportunities, better transport links and services for families,” Mr Pallas said.

“The Williams Landing Project provides a significant boost to Wyndham’s transport network, building on and supporting new residential communities at Point Cook and at Williams Landing, which is being developed on the site of the old RAAF Laverton Air Base.”

Mr Pakula said the new railway station was part of a $220 million Government investment into expanding rail services across Melbourne, with the initial works to pave the way for major works to start early next year.
http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/newsroom/12101.html

They don't say where the three Members met or what the nature of the works is. The use of the word "works" suggests civil engineering rather than paperwork. At least it started early.
"Speed"


I was going to report this and bump my other thread (the one with the render) but I couldn't be bothered searching for it.

Anyway.

I've seen some EDI Works trucks near the threshold of runway 35 (The very end bit of the runway you can see just when you're passing palmers road)

Interestingly enough, my train into Melbourne lost power exactly there the otherday and rolled to Aircraft.

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  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

State Election time.

Exists in Altona, the electorate once occupied by former Transport Minister Kosky. The Labor plebs out there - safe seat see? - need to be reminded of who their allegiances belong to.
  Kerpal Deputy Commissioner

Fortunately Williams Landing is only the name of the housing estate being built.
"wongm"


Williams Landing is actually the new suburbs' name.  It has a different postcode to Point Cook (3027 vs 3030).
  Michaelje Chief Commissioner

If they ever create a Point Cook/Williams Landing station, the smart thing would be to remove Aircraft station. It's hardly ever used, most people continue to Laverton to get Zone 1 tickets, and the Aviation Road Shopping "Precient" is serviced by three bus routes- 413,414/416 and 415.
"connexwest"


Err, record patronage does not compute with "close a station"

Nothing wrong with a mix of expresses
  Horace Banned

Location: Banned
If the Fibs sneak in, they'll close it, along with heaps others. You can't give tax cuts to the richest 1% without cutting services to the plebs. They've had it too good for too long - 11 years anyway.
  RailwayBus Locomotive Driver

Fortunately Williams Landing is only the name of the housing estate being built.
"wongm"


Williams Landing is actually the new suburbs' name.  It has a different postcode to Point Cook (3027 vs 3030).
"Kerpal"


Williams Landing was not a suburb name when that post was written, three years ago. Rolling Eyes
The area was called Laverton back then.
  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

We do know where the "Williams" name comes from yes?

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  SEMartin Chief Train Controller

Location: Canberra ACT
We do know where the "Williams" name comes from yes?

Wikipedia Bio
"heisdeadjim"


Correct. The suburb was named after the RAAF base which was named after the man.

SM
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The area was named Williams Landing when the federal government drew up the plans for its sale, this was back in 1999 / 2000, if not even earlier than that.
  tram19 Station Master

The area was named Williams Landing when the federal government drew up the plans for its sale, this was back in 1999 / 2000, if not even earlier than that.
"Shacks"


The suburb was only named and recognised by the Geographic Names Board in 2008. Prior to that it was part of Laverton.

Nick
  Michaelje Chief Commissioner

The area was named Williams Landing when the federal government drew up the plans for its sale, this was back in 1999 / 2000, if not even earlier than that.
"Shacks"


The suburb was only named and recognised by the Geographic Names Board in 2008. Prior to that it was part of Laverton.

Nick
"tram19"


He's right. There is a difference b/w a future developer "naming" a development, and it being a real suburb
  tram19 Station Master

The area was named Williams Landing when the federal government drew up the plans for its sale, this was back in 1999 / 2000, if not even earlier than that.
"Shacks"


The suburb was only named and recognised by the Geographic Names Board in 2008. Prior to that it was part of Laverton.

Nick
"tram19"


He's right. There is a difference b/w a future developer "naming" a development, and it being a real suburb
"Michaelje"


Exactly. The developers of the Manor Lakes estate in Wyndham Vale wanted the council to create a new suburb called Manor Lakes but the council said no. With Williams Landing they said yes. It could easily have stayed being called Laverton.

Nick
  S_class Locomotive Fireman


It could easily have stayed being called Laverton.

Nick
"tram19"


but then no-one would want to live there  Laughing

no correct me if I'm wrong but isn't William's Landing going to be the point where the new outer loop to Deer Park leaves the Werribee line?
  keepitcivil Station Staff

Location: Marshall station or the Belgrave/Lilydale line, depending on the day
I don't think so. That point is west of Werribee in Wyndham Vale somewhere. Williams Landing is east of Hoppers Crossing station, closer to Aircraft in fact.

What disappoints me about this station is the location of it in what is effectively open land. It's a pity all the development has occurred on the other side of the freeway, it will really limit the opportunity for walk-up passengers to use the new station
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:

no correct me if I'm wrong but isn't William's Landing going to be the point where the new outer loop to Deer Park leaves the Werribee line?
"S_class"


The RRL will leave the Geelong line west of Werribee.

Earlier this year I proposed a route that went through the Williams Landing estate and followed Melbournes' original sewer route (or the Federation bicycle trail) joining the Ballarat line near Tottenham.

It would have made a shorter route than via Newport. Sad
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

West Werribee Junction will be on the existing Geelong line near the big Council Incinerator just at the Dn end of  the sg Manor Loop.
  llinc57 Station Master

Williams Landing... East Werribee, nomatter what you call it.. still sounds like a ferral's dwelling. Other side of the freeway is much better living conditions, so hopefully the new estate may pick the area up a bit. God knows, it needs it.
"Mickelaar"

so where did you say you where from?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
A NEW railway station and road extension near Point Cook will cost $110 million, a price a public transport group has described as ''over the top''.


Must be the understatement of the year!

The Williams Landing railway station, on the Werribee line, will cost $86 million, with an accompanying access road another $24 million.

Transport Minister Terry Mulder yesterday awarded the contract for the station to builders Abigroup.


Did the road changes come out of the Rail budget?

Stations built under the previous government, such as Laverton, did not have pedestrian ramps - leaving disabled passengers stranded when lifts broke down. Williams Landing station will have pedestrian ramps, stairs and lifts.


This is usually more convenient anyhow.

The new railway station will be staffed full-time, and also have a bus terminal and taxi rank, parking for about 500 cars, a footbridge across the railway line and freeway and facilities for cyclists.


Were the costs of the bridges over the road taken up by the rail budget or the road budget?  Which one SHOULD it be?

Does the DOI deliberately make the cost of doing anything on rail in this state large and hard to swallow?

Public Transport Users Association president Daniel Bowen said that every new station, no matter who was in government, seemed to cost more and more.

''It's great the station is being built, but this cost does seem over the top,'' Mr Bowen said. ''More areas around Melbourne need access to the rail network but if the costs are prohibitively high it won't happen,'' he said.


He is not wrong!

In last November's state election, a fight broke out between Labor government transport minister Martin Pakula and Mr Mulder about the cost of building new stations.

One station that both Labor and the Coalition promised to build - at Southland shopping centre - varied wildly in price: Labor promised it for $45 million, while the Coalition said it would cost just $13 million.


Have we seen the cost of this new station and when will be it built?

During the election campaign Premier Ted Baillieu pledged a long-promised Public Transport Development Authority to, among other tasks, look at the costs of building new railway lines and stations.

That authority has still not been established.

Mr Mulder defended the cost of the station, saying it would ''provide good value for taxpayer dollars''.

He said the government had been forced to add $9 million to the project because of the added pedestrian ramps and an extra lane on the access road.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/rail-station-cost-over-the-top-20110815-1iut7.html#ixzz1V8Swugko


--Bill
  Kerpal Deputy Commissioner

Actual cost of the station design and build contract is $64m.
  AclassGunzel Deputy Commissioner

Hard to believe we are going to pay for something so ungainly. It looks like a prison!!
  steveo2004 Chief Commissioner

The only problem I see with building a new station is this, people will be driving to the station and that means parking will be pushed even more then what it is, Point Cook station will prob be in Zone 2 so every one will still be driving to Laverton.

What needs to happen is this:

A) Put a bus route in and around the new estates going in (alot of them do not have them ie: Saltwater Estate) have that bus go from the 2 or 3 estates with in that zone and then drop people off at Laverton and Aircraft.

B) Build multi-story lavel parking and think about making aircraft and point cook station in zone 1 or get rid of Zone 2 on that line all together.

C) Stop bloody building new estates because the roads and rail can not deal with it.

Any way thats my 2c worth
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Actual cost of the station design and build contract is $64m.
"Kerpal"


We have lost all touch with reality!

--Bill
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The worst part of these costs is that we never see a detailed breakdown showing where the $64 milion was spent, i.e how much for concrete, roofing material, platform facings, labour etc, etc.
These figures must exist because any estimator quoting a job has to have them.
For $64 million I could build a mansion in Toorak.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
You could build a suburb for that amount!

--Bill
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
How much of this bill is the developer going to pay?  You would not need the railway station if it was not for the development!

--Bill

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