New Car Set FN3 and other V/Line fleet changes

 
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

The BZN conversions are now on hold which now means BCZ 257 will return to Southern Cross from Newport next week (probably Tuesday waiting driver availability) and re-enter revenue traffic.
"vlocity160"


Your source for this?
"hansonator"
A very reliable one. I have posted info that this source has provided me with and it was correct.

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  hansonator Chief Commissioner

Location: Strathmore, Victoria
The BZN conversions are now on hold which now means BCZ 257 will return to Southern Cross from Newport next week (probably Tuesday waiting driver availability) and re-enter revenue traffic.
"vlocity160"


Your source for this?
"hansonator"
A very reliable one. I have posted info that this source has provided me with and it was correct.
"vlocity160"


I still don't believe it till it's backed up
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

The BZN conversions are now on hold which now means BCZ 257 will return to Southern Cross from Newport next week (probably Tuesday waiting driver availability) and re-enter revenue traffic.
"vlocity160"


Your source for this?
"hansonator"
A very reliable one. I have posted info that this source has provided me with and it was correct.
"vlocity160"


I still don't believe it till it's backed up
"hansonator"
James I am sick and tired of you being aragant! Plus that is not even my source! So don't say anything if you don't know the facts!
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

I am wondering why V/line would shelve the Conversion of  the further BCZ cars to BZN. the contract was let with EDI some time ago, I don't think the Special Needs Customers who these cars are designed to accommodate will be too impressed.

There are 3 FN Sets running with the 4th Car as a BTN  -thus no special needs facility.

The further 3 cars 257/259/262 would have replaced these, thus adding to the DDA requirements for long distance trains.

Set SN7 and the remaining 3 x 3 car sets N 4/13/ & N 16 also do not offer a special needs area.

Although I belive at some stage V/line where considering placing a special needs area including modified toilet in the BRN cars.

Footnote - car BCZ 257 does have a special needs area and toilet. Done when it was at WCR - funded by the state.
  stinky Station Master

I am wondering why V/line would shelve the Conversion of  the further BCZ cars to BZN. the contract was let with EDI some time ago, I don't think the Special Needs Customers who these cars are designed to accommodate will be too impressed.
"SN7"


SN7 I don't know where you got the idea of the conversions being shelved. If you read Vlocity160's post it states that they are on hold. I believe this to be correct and the conversions should then continue in a couple of months time. This should help appease the special needs customers.

stinky
  fullofrubbish Assistant Commissioner

Location: Brunswick
I for one certainly won't be complaining if the conversions of the remaining BCZ's are put on hold for a while. Got a ride in BCZ259 just this weekend gone on the 0913 down Shep. For me, it doesn't get much better than reserving an economy class ticket, than rocking up to find a BCZ, getting first class comfort, no bogans (they are sitting reserved in cars B&C) at economy prices!

However, I am still keen to check out the internal refurbs first hand so I won't complaining either if I rock up and find BZN252 on the back.

Now that's not asking for too much is it?  Twisted Evil
  dmgrail Junior Train Controller

Location: Wangaratta Vic. 3677
BCZ movements on Albury line 28/10/2007:

8310 (06:45 ex Albury):

N 473 - ACN 18 - BRN 38 - BN 17 - BZN 265 - BCZ 262H (FN6)

8315/8334 (12:33 ex Southern Cross, returning 16:55 ex Albury):

N 455 - BCZ 259H - BN16 - BRN 37 - ACN 39 (N13)


DMG
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

A couple of those sightings of BCZ 259 attached to N 13 are on runs that are rostered for a single 3 car N set,.

As BCZ 259 has been attached to N 13 for a while I guess it made sense to leave it on there for a few gallops.

The 1213 Albury Sundays being rostered for a three car N set appears a bit of an oversight, but I guess there aren't enough 4 car sets to go around.

I would say the 0913 Shep on Saturday is a rare event to see the BCZ car attached to, but I would think passenger loading on the Albury would see it attached whenever possible.

- however as there are three remaining 3 car N sets, N 4/13/16 of which N 16 has power doors, the operation of the 4th car will not happen on this service all the time.

Car set FN 6 with BCZ 262 has been operating in tandem  for a while as car set VN 12 is at Newport.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

BCZ 257 will be transferred back to Southern Cross at 1450 tomorrow. The conversions have been put on hold by the DOI.
  fullofrubbish Assistant Commissioner

Location: Brunswick
I guess we can assume BCZ257 will be attatched to N4, re: power door issues and creating the extra flexibility of another FN set to help out on the obviously oversight of N sets on weekend Albury services.

Matt J, looks like you'll have to change your flashy signature thingo and welcome back BCZ257!
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

It is unknown for how long BCZ257 will remain in traffic for. So if you want get some final glimpses of the BCZ now is the time to do it!
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
BCZ257 was attached to a FN set this morning with a D van. I noticed that the conductors window on it is different to that on BCZ262 - 257 has a standard ACZ square window, while 262 has the bigger rounded edge window like a N car.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

BCZ 257 is being transferred back to Southern Cross around about now. It will be coupled to an N Set tonight (N4 I think) and run on the 0747 down Warrnambool tomorrow morning which then returns to Southern Cross and forms the 1553 Geelong.  Smile
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

BZN 252 has been red carded by EDI because it's air conditioning has been wired wrongly when it was refurbished at Newport. It is expect it to be out of service for a few days at least.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
BCZ262 was sitting alone in the pass yard this afternoon at 3pm.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
FN3 was docked to Platform 4C at about 18.10pm to form the 1833 Shepparton.

FN 3 was abandoned at 18.48 and left in Platform 4C tonight as BRN 47 was red carded no brakes.

Had to take another set (didn't get numbers, too busy assisting other passengers) and arrived at Shepparton at 21.43pm, after following another SEY (18.48?) and waiting line at Broadford.

tsk, tsk.  

Here is BRN 47 some minutes before being red carded...

  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
BZN 252 on its lonesome at Southern Cross:
[img]http://images.fotopic.net/yqkepp.jpg[/img]

The internal hatch for the aircon unit was open.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

I think I might have seen you at Southern Cross today Marcus. Wink

Here are my photos from platform 1 BZN252.



  SN7 Chief Commissioner

BZN252 is out of service -awaiting aircon repairs & parts - car sets have been again modified to cover the shortfall.

Set FN10 is running with BCZ259 in place of VN 12.

Set N 4 is running with BCZ 257  as the 4th car, and set N13 will gallop around with BCZ 262 to replace both FN 5 & FN 14.  

FN 5 is in traffic as three cars, and set VN 15 has PCO 2 attached for a few trips.

The Next refurbished BZN car 267 will have an internal PEAS alarm of sorts installed in the 'Special Needs Area" - similar to vlocitys.

Also car set VN 17 went to Warrnambool last night  -as 4 Cars  - missing BTN 263
  dmgrail Junior Train Controller

Location: Wangaratta Vic. 3677
Albury line update 01/11 & 04/11/2007

On 01/11/2007, 8331 (18:13) Southern Cross - Albury consist:

N 465 - BCZ 262H - BZN 276 - BN 28 - BRN 29 - ACN 30 (FN10).

Set returned to Southern Cross as 8310 on 02/11/2007.

04/11/2007:

8310 (06:45) Albury - Southern Cross:

N461 - ACN 45 - BRN 43 - BN 10 - BZN 256 - BTN 264 - PCO 2 (VN15)

8331 (18:13) Southern Cross - Albury:

N 472 - BTN 263H - BZN 274H - BN 4H - BRN 49H - ACN 51H (VN17H)


DMG
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

BZN 252 should re appear as part of FN 5 on Monday Morning.
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

BZN 252 has hit the rails again and in other news car BZN 267 is due to appear later this week - possibly thursday, it will be added to N 16 for initial tests  (power doors) then will be a Spare car.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
There is a set floating about with a power door BTN as the fourth car, a former ACZ. Set N3 perhaps, it should have a cheap and nasty 'F' added to the set number.

I saved the number on my phone and wiped it when I replied to a message from a mate - just wiped the message mind you - they didn't get a message "BTN2xx geelong power door FNx" Laughing
  dalts 1985 Banned

Location: Banned
257 BCZ was parked in the bank sidings next to PCO 2 on Mon. arvo (Mon. 12/11)
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

BZN 267 all going to plans should appear tomorrow -with N 16 ex Newport Shop- at around 1500 ish

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