All Australian Tracks Courtesy of Hairyleg

 
  MOM Chief Commissioner

Location: here, there, everywhere....
Anyone having problems downloading this link?

I keep getting the following:

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Suggestions:
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Reloading re-directs me to another redirection page which brings me back to the above...

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  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

Anyone having problems downloading this link?

I keep getting the following:

Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to zen.omni.com.au
Suggestions:
Try reloading: ftp:­/­/­zen.­omni.­com.­au/­alltracks/­aus-­tracks-­2010-­06-­03.­kmz

Reloading re-directs me to another redirection page which brings me back to the above...
"MOM"



Yes, you're not the Lone Ranger on this one, I also have a similar problem and have (all too easily I suppose) given up!
  MOM Chief Commissioner

Location: here, there, everywhere....
Calling Hairylegs....need a fix to your link......
  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
The older version still works guys, so until HairyLegs uploads a new edition just use that one...

http://www.railpage.com.au/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=335
  MOM Chief Commissioner

Location: here, there, everywhere....
Thanks for that...
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
All I do is send my file to Railpage (and that has been difficult enough). I don't host anything or organise the link.
All I can do is "report a broken link".
  DesL Station Master

The current version is available for download on this page:
http://tinyurl.com/494zyx8

Its a blog page for ABC 1233 Radio in Newcastle. Look down the list of items on this page and you should find it.

Des
  Draffa Chief Commissioner

HairyLeg, this is a spectacular piece of work!
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Thanks for the compliment.

I find this project cathartic (which might mean that it "purges the bowels", which could be correct in this case).

I originally posted this here because I had run out of places to look for new (old) tracks, and I hoped that the fine amateur archeologists on-site might be able to guide me, so I am quite pleased that others have been able to benefit from my pastime.
  marhleet Train Controller

The current version is available for download on this page:
http://tinyurl.com/494zyx8

Its a blog page for ABC 1233 Radio in Newcastle. Look down the list of items on this page and you should find it.

Des
"DesL"

excellent, that worked for me!

seeing as Clyburn and Central is layed out in detail
want more for bits north ?

Glen Innes and Tenterfield have detailed yards
Wallan-Garra has the nsw/qld rails on the wrong side of the platforms plus needs more yard work

Maldon - Dombarton is started and finished but not traced along
Dalveen Qld needs tidying and it has a tunnel
Temangum is off the line
cherry gully is missing and has a tunnel
just quick notes ...

and May's ARHS shows construction rail around Long Island at Brooklyn

for knowledgables, should Jennings yard be shown south of Wallan-Garra ?
must ask Rolfe too
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Thanks for the input
I try to update my Master Copy with any/all suggestions from inmates, but it depends on my resources

Glen Innes and Tenterfield are both a bit unclear in Google Earth and I have no more detailed maps or air photos.
There are, of course, dozens (hundreds?) of locations around the country with yards that are still to be detailed. I will get around to them one day.

Maldon/Dombarton: I have a separate (unpublished) layer with "Proposed Lines" which includes this one.

Dalveen: This is great. I have some sort of "Freudian attraction" towards tunnels. I have a collection of tunnel portal photos covering all of NSW. I would love to get every tunnel in the country.

Temangum: Fixed (in my Master Copy).

Cherry Gully: Added, including tunnel (see above).


I welcome any further input.
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

Hairylegs, I've finally downloaded your overlays, and, unfrigginbelievable! 2 big thumbs up. Good thing I don't have internet at work any more!

Question / observation, both in the great state of Victoria:
The Webb Dock line sits isolated with no apparent connection to the rest of the network. (Yes, built in the 80's, closed in the 90's. Victoria, on the move)
No connection / line from Graham to Princes Pier

Anyone with any info as to what the pink line is running from the Yarra, approx opposite Victoria Dock to the bay with fork in it?

I have seen a picture of the foreshore at Port Melbourne, looking towards St Kilda and on the St Kilda side of Station Pier with what are quite obviously rails in the road. (Beach Street at this point). Any clues, anyone with any info?
  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
Hi everyone,

HairyLeg has now released an update of his fantastic 'All Australian Tracks' overlay.

Due to the problems discussed in this thread, I've offered to host it on my webspace. The latest version can now be found at the following link:
http://www.ozroads.com.au/rail/hairyleg_aus_tracks_rev01_2011_11_21.kmz

Enjoy!
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Thanks very much for that drwaddles
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Any chance of a quick list of the updates when you get time, please?

Thanks
Peter Cokley
  marhleet Train Controller

Wallangarra Qld, need extending, for triangle

Tenterfield, turntables, nice !!
Glen Innes, turntable, it's further north, you can pick it's smudge under the grass, SW of the black square north end before the road
Armidale turntable, more SE guessing the circle again
Katoomba turntable, just north east of the current road roundabout, check the photo ?!!
Mt Victoria turntable, i saw a pic somewhere giving a hint it was NE in the yard somewhere

Canyon Colliery has a few collieries somewhere
Wallerawang, interesting zig zag line Wink
turntable, photo suggest SW

Mundoon, there is another rail line link between the old and new deviation just west of your Mundoon marker, can see it in google maps too

Brooklyn under the bridge, construction siding was extended off the old dead end around to the work bays

Gundagai turntable, it's WSW of the station just before the cutting, SW of the water tower, I have a pic there but it's not quite in the right spot

Corowa turntable is the other circle SW of your placement

that should keep you a tad busy, lovely work!!
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Hairyleg, if there is a new one next year, I offer via http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk478/petanoz/Holmview1977.jpg  the old pre 1980s route through Holmview QLD just north of Beenleigh. From my http://s311.photobucket.com/albums/kk478/petanoz/ Earthworks of the old route before the changes in the 1980s can be seem via the following Google Earth GPS co ordinates. Old Holmview route formation near the Logan river 27°41'59.52"S 153°10'47.35"E Holmview Station 1970s 27°42'12.81"S 153°10'57.67"E and the old route can be checked by looking for the property boundaries marked on Google MAPS around the former station site.
  marhleet Train Controller

Holbrook, stn marker should be west near the road triangle just east of the stn master building
the turntable is WNW of your name marker under the tree at the bent legged y road interchange, north of the silos
  Wrigleys Chief Train Controller

The Rock, the turntable was on the eastern side of the track, roughly at -35.272566 147.115705 or opposite the white car.
  Wrigleys Chief Train Controller

Culcairn, the turntable was further north -35.662925°  147.038495° near the big tree and slightly offset from brick faced mound.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Hairyleg,
if there is an update next year, I offer the QGR steam era Cleveland route that was closed in 1960.

In particular I offer the end bit, 1 mile 28 chains, that was not rebuilt when the new line was reopened in 1987. As seen by cross checking the 1960 street maps below with Google Earth, the present day electric railway station at Cleveland is the same site as the previous Raby Bay steam era station. The old milage was Raby Bay 21 miles 55 chains, Cleveland Central 22 miles 32 chains and Cleveland 23 miles 3 chains.  

Cheers
Peter C



  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
Evening all,
 

HairyLeg has released a new version of his 'All Australian Tracks' kmz file. It can be found here:
http://www.ozroads.com.au/rail/hairyleg_aus_tracks_rev01_2012_05_07.kmz


He tells me that there's some significant updates to WA timber tramways, as well as many of topics which have been talked about over the past few months. 


As always, errors and updates welcomed by HairyLeg in this thread. 

Cheers
drwaddles

  marhleet Train Controller

quick look at Kalgoorlie, awesome work there

I read the western line book, to Bathurst thingy shows Wallerawang turnout to Portland and
-33.410955,150.063275 i think is here

Big Zig Zag you now show the 1:42 bypass which is good.
I don't have my book but my read of the 'Conquering the Blue Mountains' said the corkscrew was the end of the new top points wing counter clockwise under the viaducts around to the 1:42 section but i can't find that book anywhere, very annoying.

and .... if you are showing the proposed, how about the richmond through the colo to mudgee ?

Epping to Chatswood shows as proposed though it's completed, cos it's on the epping to parramatta section
maldon dombarton shows as a line rather than proposed

where did you find info on thirlmere to nattai?

Wallangarra triangle needs more of the third side

guyra to dorrigo, there was also a llangothlin to somewhere on the coast which is fairly well traceable on the parish maps

should keep you busy Wink
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
quick look at Kalgoorlie, awesome work there

I read the western line book, to Bathurst thingy shows Wallerawang turnout to Portland and
-33.410955,150.063275 i think is here

Big Zig Zag you now show the 1:42 bypass which is good.
I don't have my book but my read of the 'Conquering the Blue Mountains' said the corkscrew was the end of the new top points wing counter clockwise under the viaducts around to the 1:42 section but i can't find that book anywhere, very annoying.

and .... if you are showing the proposed, how about the richmond through the colo to mudgee ?

Epping to Chatswood shows as proposed though it's completed, cos it's on the epping to parramatta section
maldon dombarton shows as a line rather than proposed

where did you find info on thirlmere to nattai?

Wallangarra triangle needs more of the third side

guyra to dorrigo, there was also a llangothlin to somewhere on the coast which is fairly well traceable on the parish maps

should keep you busy Wink
"marhleet"


Marhleet,

Some answers to your questions,

Re: Zig Zag,
I found this particular set of proposals summarised on a plan titled "Department of Railways NSW, Way and Works Branch, Main West, Working Plan, Showing Deviation Between Zig-Zag and Lithgow", number 108-43,473.

Re: Epping to Chatswood,
My mistake. In bringing the data in to my system, the "Existing" overwrote the "Proposed" and I didn't realise that I hadn't deleted the Epping to Chatswood section from the "Proposed" dataset. This is now corrected for next release.

Re: Maldon to Dombarton,
There is enough construction and evidence on the ground that I have included this line (my choice because I am interested in physical evidence). This is also topical enough to be included in the general set of data. Similarly for the Gulgong to Maryvale section, where there was enough construction to warrant inclusion.

Re: Thirlmere to Nattai,
I found a couple of plans, one called "Dept of Railways NSW, Proposed Railway - Thirlmere to Burragorang", dated 1951, and another with detailed setting out. It was unusual enough to include.

Re: Wallangarra Triangle,
I know that I'm missing some lines here, but I was deferring improvements until I found a plan with clear definition of Standard vs Narrow gauge (Narrow would go into the QLD data set, Standard into the NSW data set), and until some clearer air photos were available where I could trace the evidence.

Re: Guyra to Dorrigo, Richmond to Colo to Mudgee, Llangothlin to somewhere, etc,
I haven't released and Proposed lines until now because it is very hard to define my criteria for inclusion.
In the case of current or historic lines, my criteria is inclusive of ALL lines ever build (or with significant progress towards their building, see above).
In the case of PROPOSED lines, where do I draw the line? There have been too many proposals, there are more happening every day, and very few of them ever leave any mark in either the earth, on maps, tied up in land boundaries, or in the general consciousness.
I have limited my collection of proposed lines as follows;
1/ I happen to have stumbled upon them.
     AND
2/ they have left some trace in the earth (earthworks), on maps (for the public to see), in the cadastre (influencing future development), etc.
     OR
3/ I found them interesting/unusual/ridiculous etc, and I WANTED to include them.


I'm glad you appreciate this. I'm always open to suggestions for additions.

Hairyleg

  marhleet Train Controller

North side of the Woolwich Dock
from
-33.840668,151.171301
to
-33.840526,151.173574

old rails on sleepers which are cut into the rock, no ballast

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