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      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    Over the weekend there was trackwork on the line through Essendon, so the Shepparton trains were sent via the Albion-Jacana line. The Seymour trains ran from Broadmeadows (?) while the "Albury" trains were buses the entire way.

    V/Line was nice enough to run a lot of red livered sets and locos: in a few months (years!?) when the Albury trains go to standard gauge it will just be the new livered Ns and SN sets going that way.

    At the moment the broad gauge track is only 20 km/h, the dual gauge section from Keilor Park Drive to near Broadmeadows is 80 km/h.

    Up train crossing the Maribyrnong River Viaduct
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/vline-melbourne/image/595/E106_3716.jpg[/img]

    N469 down the line at Albion Loop, still crawling along
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/vline-melbourne/image/595/E106_3722.jpg[/img]

    Down train crossing the viaduct, a standard gauge freight closes in
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/vline-melbourne/image/595/E106_3758.jpg[/img]

    G541, DL43 and G542 on MC2 overtake a diverted V/Line service
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/melbourne-standard-gauge/image/595/E106_3769.jpg[/img]

    The pass still dawdles along, now on the section of dual gauge "passing loop" which has yet to be signalled
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/vline-melbourne/image/595/E106_3780.jpg[/img]

    N471 departs Albion Loop on a down train
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/vline-melbourne/image/595/E106_3834.jpg[/img]

    N471 down the line at the remains of Tullamarine Loop
    [img]http://railgallery.wongm.com/vline-melbourne/image/595/E106_3846.jpg[/img]
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 09:51

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      NR77 Chief Commissioner

    Nice catch with the freight overtaking the pass.
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 18:05
      DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

    Makes you wonder why the full length of the broad gauge loop line hasn't been made dual gauge.
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 18:22
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    20 km/h Is very painfully slow, but then again the Ring Road can be no different.

    I think the Vic Government wants to use the broad gauge track from Albion to the start of the passing lane as part of their Airport Link, One day.

    But 20 km/h Is a joke for a Urban Melbourne line  Rolling Eyes
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 19:30
      MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

    Great photos! Why is the BG only 20kph?
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 19:38
      Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

    Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
    Great photos! Why is the BG only 20kph?
    "MelbourneCity"


    Perhaps so that the passengers can appreciate that on Victorian rails they take second place to freight?  

    20kph on that route - indeed any route used (even if only on a limited basis) for express passenger services - is woeful and would surely be enough to cause some passengers never to return.  Yes the ring road can be a crawl as well but not all the time!
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 21:16
      Ads Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne
    ^
    The concept of a freight overtaking a passenger train does bring a wry smile to ones face.

    Great photos which do speak volumes. Quite surprised they ran these services at all; where in the past the speed restrictions on the Albion-Jacana goods line have been reason enough for Vline to run buses when the Essendon line has been closed
    Posted: 11 Oct 2010 23:16
      crackheadjim Train Controller

    Location: Prison
    I remember on a SRHC trip that went via that line we got overtaken in about the same spot heading the same way, mind you the T's had been in 8th notch for 4 hours and only just scraping past 30km/h, on their way to the posted speed of 40.
    Posted: 12 Oct 2010 00:31
      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    Great photos! Why is the BG only 20kph?
    "MelbourneCity"

    I believe the restriction was put into place about 4 years ago due to track condition, I think the condition has improved since then but the restriction still stands. The dual gauge part around Tullamarine Loop was relaid by ARTC from scratch as part of their passing lanes project, so are allowed 80 km/h.
    Posted: 12 Oct 2010 17:25
      574M White Guru

    Location: Shepparton
    Well, I have always travelled on that track at full speed, but, its a long time since I went via Albion on service 8333, the 18:33 Shepparton.

    I suppose Rocket could one day share a video of the BG track, its full of broken sleepers and rotted sleepers. Nothing faster than 20 for the moment, I'd say.

    Shame, Victrack, Shame Exclamation
    Posted: 12 Oct 2010 22:40
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    ^
    The concept of a freight overtaking a passenger train does bring a wry smile to ones face.

    "Ads"


    One place you do get freight overtaking passenger trains Is on the Sandgate - Maitland line on the Hunter Valley.
    Hunter DMU travel up to about 130 km/h but stop at each station so a Coal train on the adjacent track running at a consistent 80 km/h ends up winning, but the DMU puts up a good fight.
    Posted: 13 Oct 2010 16:34
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    That the track could be allowed to deteriorate to such an extent on both the BG and SG is criminal on someone's part.

    Wait until something comes off the road due to a track condition fault and falls into the Moonee Ponds Creek or the Maribyrnong River taking the bridge with it. That will set light to someone's tail feathers. Sad
    Posted: 13 Oct 2010 16:39
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    Fairly symptomatic of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.
    Years ago, the track between Moama and Deniliquin was upgraded for rice trains. Double headed X classes with a couple of thousand tons of rice would thunder along at 80 km/h.
    We had a special with R707 going to Deni, and the S circular showed a maximum permissible 40 km/h; this for a 230 ton train and a loco which does not impart hammer blow to the rails.
    Despite this all being pointed out, there was an implacable resistance to any change.
    It's a well known phenomenon in Victorian rail administration; it's called Invincible Ignorance.
    Posted: 13 Oct 2010 16:48
      shoofly Locomotive Driver

    Sir Humphrey would be proud
    Posted: 14 Oct 2010 15:12
      NR77 Chief Commissioner

    The concept of a freight overtaking a passenger train does bring a wry smile to ones face.
    "Ads"

    Especially when you think of all the uneducated passengers grumbling as their pass is overtaken by a freight. "Grumble Grumble Grumble why aren't we on that track we're more important than a freight train." Laughing
    Posted: 14 Oct 2010 19:07
      hotdogpants1 Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Here.
    Great photo Marcus!
    The pass in the photos reminds me of this time when my mother was driving painfully slow down the Hume Highway in her old car, while interstate trucks were speeding past us at 110km/h... Laughing
    Posted: 23 Oct 2010 22:23

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