Impressive derailment shots too.
Hi, John - I enjoyed your site very much. The Garratt sounds are excellent!
Impressive derailment shots too.
as soon as I told him what I had in mind, he bucketed it, saying that some parts were of no interest & it would mean the book would not sell. It then turned around that because I wanted to do a go to woe thing, detailing each distinct aspect of my time on the job, grades, as well as locations & positions I held & what other areas I was involved in, which would blow some peoples previous held beliefs to shreds, he took to me over it.
Sorry, this guy you mentioned must have been an outright nut. Well maybe he was showing how high minded he was lording how clever he is and blew it big time. What you were offering would have been a chance of a lifetime, memories in "the raw" a very rare commodity.
I have had BFCYU's very earlier rail memories all with his permission on my website for quite some time now and for anyone who been with or interested in railways (traffic &/or loco) in any state would easily relate to his history that is stated as it is written and happened, warts and all, same with oldguy memories now. Personally this is far better than in a book like "As It Happened" now all memory histories. In my book they are a great read and as a now long retired railwayman myself and though I am/was in a different state railway, I well related to all of it in this thread as well. But my book IS my website of all my memories, nothing fancy, all done the old web way too, better than it all in book form and edited all neat and tidy. Also, it's free to read, by anybody world's wider audience.
I personally like these type memory postings Why! Because its as the posters have witnessed those days as they saw and experienced it. I think problem often in books you have stated quite rightly. What most MUST understand is each person (rail employees in this case) sees any same situation quite differently, even to the point two or three who actually did witness a situation can easily argue even between themselves what was correct, simply because everyone does see things differently. They are all correct, just seen and written from different perspectives.
Here we have 2 posters that are re-living their rail memories between each other with others adding their bits and joining in. Wow cannot get better than that, and not found in a book. This is far better than any book, with all the T's crossed and eyes dotted and with the grandma ( ) correct . Books have too be a sort of an expected exact science, its memories then become a nice clean cut well shaven book, great for libraries. Myself, I prefer this type of traffic railwaymen's format and is ideal for webpage too. Also is easier to do it bit by bit, (like tune for next episode) reason I said "on the drip". My memory book IS my website about my memories in the raw as one can take it, or leave it, that is fine, cost to the reader as I said, “nothing”, plus you not have to find a spot to put the book(s). Anything like me got the beggars everywhere piling up.After the smoke cleared, & with around 5 others what I found was that each had a set reason as they held to certain preconceptions about the railways & how they saw things, it came from the area of the gunzel, the modeller, historian ( as they wanted it) etc. What they were looking for was something that interested them, & forget the other readers, likewise or more emphatically was that they wanted me to write & confirm what they considered being correct, whether it was or not.
You beauty, you got it all in one. Nothing worse than writing, writing and rewriting just to please a so called few preconceived audience, also so you not have to wear a fire proof suit. Just said and written as it was, warts and all.
I could go on, but best we get back to the thread “Delec/Enfield memories”.
J. Abberfield (Johnny ?)
It is indeed John, he started at Enfield in 1964 and he is still on the job just not at Enfield anymore. I'm his son
Hi, Oldguy - your pencil roster sounds a lot like the one at BMD.
Keep 'em comin' oldguy.
A couple of other big main line diesels did arrive also at Delec from S.A.
but were went back because of some local (Enfield) AFULE agenda.
Breakfast Cereal It was said that if you shunted Kelloggs at Botany that you could usually score some boxes of free breakfast cereal. I recall seeing a Delec crew in the Sign On room, who were signing off, and they each had a huge sugar bag, each bulging with different boxes of breakfast cereals. I think they had one of every cereal that Kelloggs produced. I only shunted Kelloggs once, and my Driver was keen for some free cereal, but we got none. We asked and were turned down. So I never scored anything here
Biscuits. Arnotts was at North Strathfield and it was also said you could score packs of free biscuits if you asked. Finding someone to ask was the hard part, you'd be shunting and no Arnotts employees could be seen. One driver I was with went in and asked and was given one pack that was already open with several biscuits already missing. We had seen this packet sitting on a box, don't know how long it had been there and open. It wasn't much but they were chocolate mint, and went down well with a brew. Other than those few bikkies never scored anything else here.
Milk Dairy Farmers at Darling Harbour had a siding and loading dock on one side at the end closest to Central, on the side of the yard furthest from Paddy's Markets. One driver I was with reckoned you'd get free milk if you asked, including flavoured milk. He went in and was told to rack off. The only other place was Dairy Farmers at Pippita. The worker's there had a mealroom, and a Driver told me we were permitted to go in there and get some milk. The milk was in a large chromed or stainless steel urn, for the worker's tea and coffee. I went in and asked permission, got it, then half filled my billy with milk. Best milk I've ever tasted, the driver reckoned it was unpasteurised and untreated, as it came from the cow, except chilled.
the guard come up to our 48 class with a "billy" of fresh cream milk
straight from the milk pots. (wagon)
He invited us (driver & myself the fireman) for a drink of this milk.
My driver Vince didn't mine it, but i nearly threw up from the
thick warm creamy milk.
I'm picturing the same damn driver going into each place and asking. Knowing some of the cheapskates/garbage gutses it doesnt surprise me
Being at Delec I knew about the "fringe benefits". I never got anything from Kellogs, but did get a box of Tim Tams from Arnotts, regular cream milk from the tanks at Pipita, a bit of fruit from "the markets" and billies of rough wine from the dregs left in the "empty" tanks from McWilliams Wines near Rozelle