Toolamba - Echuca line reopening

 
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Just came through Tatura and noticed a couple of highrails trundling off towards Kyabram. Looks like they doing some cleanup work after the storms here, but they're leaving "Railway Reopened" signs on all the LX's.

Maybe another route to get freight out of Deni if Rochester goes under again?

Cheers

Rick

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Just came through Tatura and noticed a couple of highrails trundling off towards Kyabram. Looks like they doing some cleanup work after the storms here, but they're leaving "Railway Reopened" signs on all the LX's.

Maybe another route to get freight out of Deni if Rochester goes under again?
"RustyRick"


Freight ran to Deni via Seymour and Kyabram on a regular basis when PN was running freight in Victoria.

Perhaps this is to continue?

--Bill
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
I understand this section is to be used when the rice train comes back online later on this year.
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

The line will also be utilised when shutdown occurs in coming months due to bridge repairs and replacement at Murchison East. I would envisage freight trains running to Toolamba ex Echuca and reversing to head to Tocumwal, there are also plans to place concrete sleepers on the main line as well.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

The line will also be utilised when shutdown occurs in coming months due to bridge repairs and replacement at Murchison East. I would envisage freight trains running to Toolamba ex Echuca and reversing to head to Tocumwal, there are also plans to place concrete sleepers on the main line as well.
"SN7"


Where's the bridge that will be worked on at Murchison East, as far as I can recall (could be blind though) there are only two large bridges on the line. The first just south of Toolamba the second just East of Mooroopna both taking the line over the Goulburn river.

Then of course there is the bridge over the Murray at Tocumwal which REALLY is past its "use by" date.
  Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic
The line will also be utilised when shutdown occurs in coming months due to bridge repairs and replacement at Murchison East.
"SN7"


And for DERM trips!!!   Laughing
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
The line will also be utilised when shutdown occurs in coming months due to bridge repairs and replacement at Murchison East. I would envisage freight trains running to Toolamba ex Echuca and reversing to head to Tocumwal, there are also plans to place concrete sleepers on the main line as well.
"SN7"


Where's the bridge that will be worked on at Murchison East, as far as I can recall (could be blind though) there are only two large bridges on the line. The first just south of Toolamba the second just East of Mooroopna both taking the line over the Goulburn river.

Then of course there is the bridge over the Murray at Tocumwal which REALLY is past its "use by" date.
"woodford"


Speed limits have been in place on those bridges for a long time.

Shutdown might also facilitate the two new overpasses for the Nagambie Bypass.  Earthworks are progressing, daily.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Getting serious - Downer EDI are throwing in some new timber sleepers between Tatura and Byrneside.

Rick
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

Getting serious - Downer EDI are throwing in some new timber sleepers between Tatura and Byrneside.

Rick
"RustyRick"


Where do they get these sleepers from? I though all the red gum was now off limits.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic

Where do they get these sleepers from? I though all the red gum was now off limits.
"Duncs"


I'd say they're recycled from somewhere else - NE SG project? They're not new. Some of the ones EDI are pulling out are just falling to pieces.

Rick
  VRfan Moderator

Location: In front of my computer :-p
there are also plans to place concrete sleepers on the main line as well.
"SN7"


Interesting. Do you know if they are going to be BG only or gauge convertible? Considering that this line is an obvious candidate for conversion to SG, logically they should be gauge convertible.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Come, come, VRfan; what does logic have to do with railways in Victoria?
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
there are also plans to place concrete sleepers on the main line as well.
"SN7"


Interesting. Do you know if they are going to be BG only or gauge convertible? Considering that this line is an obvious candidate for conversion to SG, logically they should be gauge convertible.
"VRfan"


A lot of crossings between Mangalore and ... well, Shepparton, where there is asphalt have been dual gauged.  Can't vouch for the other side of Shep, although. LowndesJ515 might be able to.

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  tainted Missing Link

Location: Shepparton, Vic
The crossing north of Shepp that I know are DG are the ones at New Dookie Rd, and on Grahamvale Rd, I'm sure I've seen others but in the morning and evenings to and from work I'm on auto pilot.
  Apocalyptical Locomotive Fireman



A lot of crossings between Mangalore and ... well, Shepparton, where there is asphalt have been dual gauged.  Can't vouch for the other side of Shep, although. LowndesJ515 might be able to.
"574M"


Well (as a relatively new rail fan) you learn something new every day.

I've often wondered why a third rail exists at a sealed level crossing and it never dawned on me until now that it's for a possible conversion to standard gauge.

Thanks!
  tardis142000 Chief Train Controller

Location: Sandhurst, Victoria

A lot of crossings between Mangalore and ... well, Shepparton, where there is asphalt have been dual gauged.  Can't vouch for the other side of Shep, although. LowndesJ515 might be able to.

"574M"


And the only problem with that pitcure is that they will have to gouge out some of the roadway to put a channel next to the rail if they do convert it to SG
  woodford Chief Commissioner

In an earlier thread it was said the level crossings being dual gauged did not indicate any gauge conversion was planned. It is done as (it was said) because it is only little dearer and it MAY come in usefull one day.

A good percentage of the crossings in the town have been dual gauged but as yet I have not seen any done out of town. MInd you as was said you tend to be a bit on autopilot when driving well used paths.

Woodford
  toxation Chief Commissioner

Location: Cobram, Victoria
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A lot of crossings between Mangalore and ... well, Shepparton, where there is asphalt have been dual gauged.  Can't vouch for the other side of Shep, although. LowndesJ515 might be able to. ...
"574M"


Midland Highway (Benalla Road), Shepparton Bypass (Near the fuel sidings), Katamtite Road (Congupna), Nathalia Road (Numurkah), Numurkah Road (Starthmerton), Murray Valley Highway (Strathmerton), Mathoura Road (Tocumwal) have all been converted with the standard gauge rail on the eastern side.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
* The Bridge east of Mooroopna was to be done (along with the other tasks, Toolamba bridge with its sinkholes, and the two Nagambie bypass overpasses ...) with a total shutdown for one month between Seymour and Shepparton.

Pacific National don't want to be separated from their Tocumwal income, so we get to have a service with a wooden bridge that actually SWAYS when you hit it at any sort of speed over 20kph .. (Why don't PN just divert their customers to Echuca for a month?)


Do we now have a lifetime speed restriction on that bridge?  Why does PN get to decide this for all the other users of this line? Train service (and quality thereof) is definitely on the table at the Shep News.
  emmastreet Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
Perhaps Pacific National are just showing their committment to Victorian rail freight.
Um, Tocumwal, well er, perhaps it's their committment to NSW rail freight.

Local council must be spitting chips over work being done in Shepparton yard. Doesn't look like V/Line are moving out any time soon.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Perhaps Pacific National are just showing their committment to Victorian rail freight.
Um, Tocumwal, well er, perhaps it's their committment to NSW rail freight.

Local council must be spitting chips over work being done in Shepparton yard. Doesn't look like V/Line are moving out any time soon.
"emmastreet"


Shepparton yard, tell us more?

Regards
Brian
  emmastreet Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
All points in the yard are to be motorized, work in progress.
Colour light signals to be installed. I believe their will be 12 signals (includes signals for the freight centre which is yet to get off the ground). To be operated from Shepparton and Seymour or Melb.

On the downside No 3 road has been removed and no signalling planned for the Dookie line.
  Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina
A train order should be all the signalling the Dookie line should require.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
On the downside No 3 road has been removed and no signalling planned for the Dookie line.
"emmastreet"

A train order should be all the signalling the Dookie line should require.
"Rodo"

I'm reading the initial post as "the junction to the Dookie line with the mainline will be manually operated".

At present the junction is located out of the yard limits, with no signals, and a master key (?) securing the points for the main line.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


At present the junction is located out of the yard limits, with no signals, and a master key (?) securing the points for the main line.
"wongm"


Has this arrangement changed?  I recall the access was from the yard at Shepparton?  Could be wrong?

Regards
Brian

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