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  linton78 Train Controller

Location: South Coast NSW
48 class? Now that would be an upset.

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  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

90 Class to go with the NHRH Coal Hoppers
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Loco samples guess-a-thon...
Announced but no samples seen = VR L electric and CFCLA GL's
Sort of announced but no samples seen = v/line & PN P class, modern livery flat top T's
Not announced but sample seen = rebuilt 422's (FL, HL, 22's, etc)
Unseen & unannounced =  tricky as the answer could be simpler than some are thinking. eg we've seen the 45 class sample, yet all is hush-hush about the similar SAR 600 class, or rebuilt 45's such as BHP103. There are other planned or previously released models from Auscision that are also capable of having 'variations in a theme' done.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Thought the 45 looked nice Roachie for old buggers like us.  Hoping for a 43 would be too much to expect.  Although it is almost Christmas.  Nah they will be some of these box things that all look the same to me.  Anything from 422 onwards until the NR brought in some variation.  Has anyone done a Cedric for the Vics?  Probably have but I don't take much notice of stuff newer than 1967 or further south than Albury.

Perhaps a 41?  Even if they were a lemon still needed for models of Sydney metropolitan area of the 50s and 60s.  Hmmm, not so many of those layouts about.  Put the 41 on hold.

Best regards,
John
John_Bushell

In a way the problem for me with all of this is that its almost reached a name it & claim it scenario, whereby a constant stream of announcements of ""FUTURE" models almost as if there is a fear that some other company may be contemplating doing those models, & by announcing them, the opposition might fall off.

With few exceptions, there really is not a lot of locomotive types to produce that may be popular enough to produce in order to give reasonable returns, especially amongst those that are found across the country.  The WA Kclass was found in NSW, likewise the L class, which was on another companies list, in NSW for diesels there is the 41, 421cl, 423, & 43, 90, which are the likely candidates as reasonable sellers, of course the new loco's being built in Victoria from one of the shops down there could well be a surprise as its part of the SSR consortium.

For me, I would get a 43 but that's it, although looking at the samples of the 45cl it does appear as a very nice model indeed.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
There are still plenty of small locos begging to be done - NSW X100 & X200, 70 class. VR W & F class. And of course the Westrail J class, which only small in number has carried many liveries including SSR (and we know Auscision love SSR liveries).
  a6et Minister for Railways

There are still plenty of small locos begging to be done - NSW X100 & X200, 70 class. VR W & F class. And of course the Westrail J class, which only small in number has carried many liveries including SSR (and we know Auscision love SSR liveries).
Poath Junction

I think the problem we face in several areas, & that is not just for loco's either, is the cost viability of them especially with models such as you mention, how many of them would really be large enough sellers for the big players.  The one aspect with the X100 & 200 is that they would be able to use a common chassis & drive system, with the bodies being separate.

Taking it a step further is the small & original NSW pay bus, again though how many would sell for a viable product?
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
There are still plenty of small locos begging to be done - NSW X100 & X200, 70 class. VR W & F class. And of course the Westrail J class, which only small in number has carried many liveries including SSR (and we know Auscision love SSR liveries).
Poath Junction
Bloody hell..... if they couldn't do the 73 class with enough room for a sound decoder (or even a non-sound for that matter), what hope is there that something like a pay bus, X100, X200 or 70 class would be suitable for a DCC layout?? And for those that might suggest it....sorry, but I could not bring myself to mounting a decoder in a permanently attached wagon; although having said that, it "may" be possible to have a shunter's truck permanently attached to an X class, but whether that would be capable of "hiding" a decoder is debatable too.

Also, those small locos with their inherent limited weight, short wheelbases and only 4 or 6 wheels, would benefit from a "Keep Alive" too, but technology will have to move a few more steps forward before the decoder + KA will be small enough.

Roachie
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

There was a rumour about 18 months ago about another 44 class coming on the market in HO . My guess is a 48 as it has similar but not the same body shape , similar power train also and with the 45 almost done a lot of similar non visual parts . I hope it's a 43 though
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

X100 and the two versions of the X200 all have slightly different wheel diameters and wheelbases. Not as easy as it looks.

Paul
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

Many folks would love to see the NSWGR fleet rounded off.
A 43 and accurate 421 would be winners. I offloaded my Austrains 421's due to their ungainly appearance - surely a refresher model is needed. Already the 422,48,44 and 45 have had refreshers.

A 90 would also be interesting - albeit limited to hunter layouts and Batwing hoppers. It would make sense seeing that the Batwing hoppers need a hauler. I'd get one just to have one of those beasts on the layout.

I'd take a guess the 41 is non-contender for a release, anytime soon that is.
An L class would be another contender.

Away from locomotives...
Seeing they have delivered a scoop with the much loved V Set, I'd like them to study to feasability of a series including S/R/K sets also.

We are almost covered with NSW rollingstock - and loving it.
  Tom66 Assistant Commissioner

I'm crossing my fingers that they will do a decent NR!!
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Bloody hell..... if they couldn't do the 73 class with enough room for a sound decoder (or even a non-sound for that matter), what hope is there that something like a pay bus, X100, X200 or 70 class would be suitable for a DCC layout?? And for those that might suggest it....sorry, but I could not bring myself to mounting a decoder in a permanently attached wagon; although having said that, it "may" be possible to have a shunter's truck permanently attached to an X class, but whether that would be capable of "hiding" a decoder is debatable too.

Also, those small locos with their inherent limited weight, short wheelbases and only 4 or 6 wheels, would benefit from a "Keep Alive" too, but technology will have to move a few more steps forward before the decoder + KA will be small enough.

Roachie
Roachie
Ye have little faith. I have HO scale BLI trackmobiles & Hi-rails, fully DCC (factory fitted decoders), that operate beautifully. No unsightly decoder in the cab, no need for the decoder in a separate wagon. An X200 would not be a problem. Plenty of vids on youtube showing these little guys have no problems with pointwork, etc.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
I think the problem we face in several areas, & that is not just for loco's either, is the cost viability of them especially with models such as you mention, how many of them would really be large enough sellers for the big players.  The one aspect with the X100 & 200 is that they would be able to use a common chassis & drive system, with the bodies being separate.

Taking it a step further is the small & original NSW pay bus, again though how many would sell for a viable product?
a6et
SDS has shown, through their 'multi-media' products such as the OAK milk tankers, that there are ways to make smaller run items far more viable. Auscision aren't afraid to tackle such hurdles, after all they're doing limited run (100 units) of O scale locos.
  a6et Minister for Railways

SDS has shown, through their 'multi-media' products such as the OAK milk tankers, that there are ways to make smaller run items far more viable. Auscision aren't afraid to tackle such hurdles, after all they're doing limited run (100 units) of O scale locos.
Poath Junction

Both valid points, & yes the new type of 3d image/printing could be a perfect scenario for the smaller vehicles, & make the project viable.

I doubt that the O scale models from Auscision come into that category though. Sure only a hundred units, but they would be certain to regain the initial costs in that many units, & if they prove to be popular, then a rerun provides some degree of cream, which is shown by the announcement of the Bendigo T class, & I think the 44cl would be a likely candidate in the not too distant future.

The real issue that I see though is care needs to be taken with the flood of models coming out from Auscision as well as the others.
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

A 43 would be great, and much preferable to a eureka offering.
Geekboy

Because?
  a6et Minister for Railways

Because?
Dazz

Possibly a couple of reasons.
1: It may arrive a bit sooner, emphasise on MAY.
2: There has been comments on an earlier Eureka thread indicating that Eureka has canned the 43, if true then makes reason 1 more certain if Auscision decides to do the 43.
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

I think an Auscision 43 would be a little more predictable. The other offerings by Eureka have been rolled all the way past 2015 onwards - these are your DEB/D57's/Comets etc.. Many others have been announced since their 43 announcement and I would assume that a 43 is miles away if not at all planned due to other commitments.

An Auscision release would fit nicely between the 422 and 45 releases . I'd be a little worried about the variations you can do on the 43's....maybe one of each road number, silver pilots, tuscan vs indian red and maybe a restored version. Thats about it I would imagine.

Bit the same for the 90...only really two distinct versions plus the PN version.

Thinking about it - the X100/200 versions would be interesting. Plenty of variations there.

Personally I'd love to see a 70 class but thats wishful thinking.
IDM castings are doing the 85 which is another off the list....I could be wrong.

I would expect it will be a interstate model - either the L or something like that.
Or maybe an NJ class!!!! That would be cool.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Ye have little faith. I have HO scale BLI trackmobiles & Hi-rails, fully DCC (factory fitted decoders), that operate beautifully. No unsightly decoder in the cab, no need for the decoder in a separate wagon. An X200 would not be a problem. Plenty of vids on youtube showing these little guys have no problems with pointwork, etc.
Poath Junction
Hey Poath.....could you post a link for me please? I've just been searching Youtube for any sign of a X200 video (either prototype or HO scale) and haven't been able to find the right things to type into the address box to come up with ANYTHING regarding those little units.

Thanks in advance.

Roachie
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Hey Poath.....could you post a link for me please? I've just been searching Youtube for any sign of a X200 video (either prototype or HO scale) and haven't been able to find the right things to type into the address box to come up with ANYTHING regarding those little units.

Thanks in advance.

Roachie
Roachie
My bad, was referring to vids of the BLI models in operation.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
My bad, was referring to vids of the BLI models in operation.
Poath Junction
thanks mate....interesting little buggars!!! I reckon the same technology could be employed in a X100 or X200 shunter.

Roachie
  ANDL36Y Train Controller

Some more samples have appeared on their Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Auscision-Models/136260326407914

VR modellers in particular, start your foaming....







http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/L%20Class%20Locomotive.htm

Cheers Smile
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Wow.

Update to their blog today...

eLetric goodness, for those that are fans of VR eLectrics... SmileLaughing

EDIT: We must've been composing posts at the same time! Smile

Wolfpac
  ANDL36Y Train Controller

Ha ha! Snap! Smile
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Ha ha! Snap! Smile
ANDL36Y
Laughing

Funny how it works, too. You said about their Facebook and I noticed their Blog update. Fingers on the pulse... Laughing

Wolfpac
  Piston Train Controller

On the Auscision Facebook site back in July this year there are photos of an Auscision shop full of models just waiting customers.

Does anyone know if this shop has opened yet or when will it be? I presume it is at Castle Hill.

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