Flying Scotsman to Australia again ??

 
  jumboman44211 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Depot No. 20
Word around the traps is that a "mysterious rail museum" has requested the owners to bring Scotsman to Aus again......

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  oscar2 Locomotive Fireman

Saves me from going all the way over there to see it  8)
Missed it back in 88 but if this bit of news is true, to be honest I'd rather see the all new Tornado.  Hell, why not ask for both.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Word around the traps is that a "mysterious rail museum" has requested the owners to bring Scotsman to Aus again......
"jumboman44211"


Screw the Flying Dago, bring over the Peppercorn!

Would be awesome if it were true, but April 1 is still a couple weeks off!
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
So is 3801 going to be fixed in time to push it around the place again.
  CRGM Junior Train Controller

Location: Could be anywhere atm.
Last I heard about the Scotsman it was in a thousand pieces getting rebuilt back to new again due to a few bugs in it.
  Titfield Locomotive Fireman

http://www.heritagerailway.co.uk/Current-Issue/

It’s no joke. Scroll down, about half way to Headline News.
You will have to buy the magazine to get the whole article but it basically says that an Australia museum has asked for it to come back. An RTM person is named in the article and she has denied it is them.

It makes me wonder if was intended for Trainwrecks?
  savy3801 Banned

Location: Gold Coast - QLD
The scotsman had it's fun here, bring on the A4 Pacifics  Laughing  . Either Bittern, Sir Nigel Gresly or Union Of South Africa will do fine for me.

**jokes** but wow, That would be good if the Scotsman coms to Aus again, shame I didn't get to see it in 1988-1989 as I was only 1 or 2 years old **still in stinky diapers during that time of that event**

Love to see that come to fruition.

Smile
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
Both Flying Scotsman and the "Peppercorn" (new-build A1 60163 Tornado) are in bits.

"Scotsman" is out of ticket and will need to have the boiler reassembled and tested before going anywhere quite apart from a heavy general overhaul.

"Tornado" is currently in Germany (Meiningen Works) for major rectification to firebox problems and while that has so far not proved to be as expensive as feared she is out of traffic until further notice.
  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
*sigh*  Rolling Eyes

A foreign loco might visit, and a very beautiful one, and everyone ignores the offer and generously puts in a request for something else.

Flying Scotsman would be a magnificent and distinguished visitor. Anyone wanting a different loco to visit may make their own arrangements. No-one will be stopping you, we'd be overjoyed if you came good.

M
  Tuscan Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney, NSW
If this does happen (which I would very much hope so) it will defiantly be a couple of years atleast before it could be attempted. So don't hold your breath yet.
  steveo2004 Chief Commissioner

I remember her coming to Melbourne in 1988 such a wonderful loco, went to York 2 years ago and I was all most crying to see her in the state she was in Sad

What I would love to see (had the chance to see this loco while in York) is see the LMS Princess Coronation Class 6229 Duchess of Hamilton come to Austraila and not in that stream lining crap ether.

Think of it 3801 + R707 (vic loco) + the Duchess of Hamilton = one hell of a show down in speed, power and looks.  PosessedClapBounce
  steveo2004 Chief Commissioner

*sigh*  Rolling Eyes

A foreign loco might visit, and a very beautiful one, and everyone ignores the offer and generously puts in a request for something else.

Flying Scotsman would be a magnificent and distinguished visitor. Anyone wanting a different loco to visit may make their own arrangements. No-one will be stopping you, we'd be overjoyed if you came good.

M
"Grantham"


Nothing would give me so much joy to see her back in Australia let alone running again.. Even better how about another Aust Stream '88, stuffed if I know where Melbourne will house all the loco's as all our yards are gone but we will fine a place for them
  Duffy Chief Commissioner

Location: ACT
Feelers may have been put out, but I doubt NRM would be willing to let Scotsman out of the UK anytime soon for the simple reason that they'd look pretty dumb.  They 'saved the engine for the people', have put it through an extensive 56 year restoration during which they've copped an enormous amount of flak from the community over there.  Itd make little sense for them to be putting it on a boat out to Oz not long after the restoration was complete- The uproar would be enormous.

This is aside from the fact that I doubt any museum in Australia has the kind of dough it would take to get it (or any other working loco) shipped out here and pay the insurence premiums on it.  A lot has changed since 1988, despite what half the NSW preservation community pretends.
  grubjenkins Station Staff

Location: Bathurst
if your gonna bring a overseas loco get the challenger or sumthing from UP
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
A lot has changed since 1988, despite what half the NSW preservation community pretends.
"Duffy"


That is what it boils down to. Those reponsible for the 1988 visit had to contend with a lot of red tape then. Not to mention the transport costs (which ended up being $320,000 and was all recouped through the tours run).

It is one of those 'be nice to do' things, the reality is a bit different.
  4426 Chief Commissioner

Location: BUSY GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES
People should remember that the Flying Scotsman wasnt the first choice back then either.

I recall it was Mallard but it was required due to the anniversary of its record breaking run.
  jumboman44211 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Depot No. 20
if your gonna bring a overseas loco get the challenger or sumthing from UP
"grubjenkins"


A wee problem with loading gauge me thinks..
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The Gentleman who assisted to get the Scotesman to OZ once told me he did want to get a A4 out here, rebadged "Commonwealth of Australia" - but it was to be too costly and he didn't want to deal with all the red tape yet again.

He also hoped to see a R class on the SG for it to assist around the traps.

If it happens, well I'll be lineside, or on it !

Regards,
David Head
  Russell_Pangit Station Master

Blah - bring out a 37 instead
Very Happy
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I have a video with 4472 out here- The commentator says- she tackled the grades out here with flying colours

Kind Regards
  L-1172 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Working hard like a donkey at my wife's computer.
Hi all,

Here are a couple of my photos of 4472 Flying Scotsman in Australia in 1989:-


4472 is seen at platform 2, Spencer Street at 10:08am on Monday 17th July, 1989.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/50605836@N05/5514015223/

4472 is being serviced near the Albury turntable at 3:22pm on Sunday 30th July, 1989.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/50605836@N05/5514015217/

Regards,

Robert.
  5814 Chief Train Controller

Nice idea about the Challenger coming over but apart from the difficulty of unloading something that big I suspect that loading guage and track issues would mean us all having to take a trip to the Pilbara to see her??

Would be lovely to see the Scotsman here again - but meanwhile for 3 cylinder engines given how many of them survived there , how about a long term loan of one of the Bulleid pacifics? Or more !
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
There are plenty of Bulleid light Pacifics in preservation with a fair number at one one time "in ticket".  So perhaps not such a "big ask" as a unique survivor.

How well would the oil bath and chain drive cope with dusty Australian conditions?
  5814 Chief Train Controller

I was thinking one of the rebuilt ones Gwiwer but if one of the airsmoothed originals could come as well, even better. If Julia Gillard can be more popular in Washington than at home (according to todays news) then why not bring "Winston Churchill" to Sydney?!!

Think of it, a 4 track parallel run near Maitland with streamlined and unstreamlined 38s and original and rebuilt Bulleids.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
The air-smoothed Bulleid would win that one!  8)

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