New locos at UGL

 
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
For those who haven't seen or heard, Aurizon (ex-QR National) once again ordered more C44aci's, this time known as ACC's.

Like we seen on Consolidated Rail Leasing's website, they are the next company to get C44aci's and name them after the company.

Every company just likes to have C44aci's, don't they now?

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  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
ACC class isn't named after the company....they're actually just more 6020 class with the WA bound locos getting the ACC class to fit in behind the AC, ACA and ACB class C43aci and C44ACi units already over there.

Reality, you have no idea of it.
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
ACC class isn't named after the company....they're actually just more 6020 class with the WA bound locos getting the ACC class to fit in behind the AC, ACA and ACB class C43aci and C44ACi units already over there.

"GT46C-ACe"


I only just saw these ACC's in the more recent West Australian Railscene E-Mags, and your saying that they are still in the 6020 class, just have the letter "ACC's" on them?

I thought it was a new class.

At least I can tell the difference with ACA's and 6000's, ACA's are the 6000's that go over to WA, while the plain 6000's just stay east of the Country.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
At least I can tell the difference with ACA's and 6000's, ACA's are the 6000's that go over to WA, while the plain 6000's just stay east of the Country.
"jt393"


Clearly you can't tell the difference, "plain 6000's" as you call them are regular visitors to WA.
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
...while the plain 6000's just stay east of the Country.
"jt393"


New Zealand doesn't have any 6000's, nor are there any at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean (or the Tasman Sea if you like).
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
Oops, I should've said non-ACA's.

It's hard to follow on these newcomers, especially where they are allocated to a specific state or area and what they are known as.

Older diesels are more easy to follow, but I still interested in what company got a class full of C44aci's, that's all I could understand.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
.... Older diesels are more easy to follow,
"jt393"

Because they are slower????  Laughing
.... but I still interested in what company got a class full of C44aci's, that's all I could understand.
"jt393"

Please define just how many locos constitute a "Class Full"
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
Please define just how many locos constitute a "Class Full"
"Pressman"


Half a dozen to a dozen. Or in Xstrata Rail's case, having 30 in the XRN class.

It depends if a company wanted more in a fleet, then the numbers would add up in that class.

e.g I thought they'll be only six in the 93 class however, two more are being constructed for that class (9307 & 9308).
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
You've also missed that bit of informatio that pointed out the 93s will replace the NRs over time so expect that class to become rather large.

No disrespect but either do more research and get up to speed or go back to dreamworld....
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Please define just how many locos constitute a "Class Full"
"Pressman"


Half a dozen to a dozen. Or in Xstrata Rail's case, having 30 in the XRN class.

It depends if a company wanted more in a fleet, then the numbers would add up in that class.

e.g I thought they'll be only six in the 93 class however, two more are being constructed for that class (9307 & 9308).
"jt393"


So six to twelve constitutes a "class full" then how do we describe the 119 strong NR class? or the 48 class or the 44 class or the 930 class {insert many other classes here}
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
So six to twelve constitutes a "class full" then how do we describe the 119 strong NR class?
"Pressman"


I was only talking about the C44aci's like CEY's, 93's, CF's etc. so far having 6 to 12 in their class. I didn't say that the NR's had the low fleet number because your right they are all going strong in their class.

Can we please move on with the subject about the constructions, orders, transfers, sightings etc.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Move on because you have no actual answers to the questions? sir you've got quite the shovel there!
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Would it be possible (for the benefit of those people silently reading the thread) to just discuss around such pointless comments and not indulge them with replies? Rather quickly results in a "page full" of dribble for no good reason. Just a friendly request for someone who doesn't visit as often as they'd like to, and to sift through all of the garbage generated by one user in particular is time better spent elsewhere. Thanks!

On the topic of conversation, the "ACC Class" are numbered in the same way the ACA class is - it is simply a prefix for the class to denote West Australian operation. I read elsewhere on this website that this is because locomotives in Western Australia have modifications that other locomotives do not carry. One would assume this is to prevent office staff told to "roster a pair of 6020 class on a freight" don't roster incorrect locomotives.

ACC 6032 was sighted outside UGL Broadmeadow on Sunday the 2.12, not yet painted.
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
I only thought that these C44aci's with the letters ACC are a new class but only a prefix for new ordered diesels to run in WA.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
What constitutes a "page full" Raichase?

IIRC the ACCs are 6031-6038 but I could be wrong....
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
What constitutes a "page full" Raichase?IIRC the ACCs are 6031-6038 but I could be wrong....
"GT46C-ACe"


The latest TOC waiver I have on my HDD details the "6020 Class" as 6021-6029 and 6033-6035. This leaves the "ACC Class" with the numbers 6030-6032. That said, the TOC waiver is dated from April of this year, and doesn't exclude the possibility ACC numbering beyond 6035.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
From what I've heard there are 20-22 6020s on order, 8 to go west as ACC class with the balance being for intermodal.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
From what I've heard there are 20-22 6020s on order, 8 to go west as ACC class with the balance being for intermodal.
"GT46C-ACe"


Certainly supports the notion that onwards from 6035 the rest will be prefixed with ACC. As I said, it's an old TOC waiver, so perhaps you're correct in the numbering. I guess we shall wait and see!
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Shame EDI / EMD isn't doing anything about it .
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Another 5 as ACCs fits the 8 total I've heard about would bring up the 20 figure. The waivers for them may not be available yet? Like you said, wait and see.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Another 5 as ACCs fits the 8 total I've heard about would bring up the 20 figure. The waivers for them may not be available yet? Like you said, wait and see.
"GT46C-ACe"


I'd suggest the waivers don't cover the ACC's as they're RailCorp waivers, and the ACC's would be hauled dead to WA?
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I would guess you are quite correct there. Did the ACBs get TOC waivers?
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I would guess you are quite correct there. Did the ACBs get TOC waivers?
"GT46C-ACe"


I don't recall, although they did light engine testing on the RailCorp network between Chullora and St Marys, while the "ACC Class" will not.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
M636C might have that answer...
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
A shot of ACC 6032 outside UGL for those interested. There was just no shooting past the damned tree. XRN's 030, 029, 027 and 006 were also present.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/raichase/8243983436/in/photostream



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