GSR - The Overland Thread

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The Overland into Melbourne this evening had 12 vehicles!  This is quite a train compared to the previous months.

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Regards
Brian

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  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

I picked the outlaws off it at Ararat yesterday. It looked near to fully booked.

Arrival at Ararat right on time at just before 1530 despite being about 25 down at Bordertown. However departure from Ararat was a few minutes  late (1538) due to the clerks at Keswick tagging every case as going through to Melbourne. Hence the on train staff had to check through the van load of bags, etc to locate those for pax departing at Ararat. Also, about 10-12 pax joined at Ararat. The Motorail and power van were off the western end of the platform.
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

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Motorail looks popular.

--Bill
"freightgate"


I think there were 8 vehicles on yesterday's train, Bill.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Also confirmed by gheringhaploop website:

AM8 8702 U OVERLAND 1723 (1718) NR61(PN) INC, 1 X GHAN & 1 X IP CARS. 12V S/G

http://ghaploop.railpage.org.au/thweeks.html

Have not counted outbound numbers at bunbury street. Cannot find the video.

but according to ghaploop there were 12V on the outbound:

MA8 8701 D OVERLAND 0958 (0957) NR61(PN) INC, 1 X GHAN & 1 X IP CARS. 12V S/G

http://ghaploop.railpage.org.au/latest.html

--Bill
  stevfam Station Master

GSR have an arrangement with several car rental companies around Australia, any surplus space on the motor rail is bought by them and their cars are moved/returned by GSR.

In place on the Ghan and IP as well.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
I'd love to ride The Overland one day, would be much better than that overnight bus ride to Melbourne that I rode (Red Army bus for the soccer) on December 9-10. Arriving on The Overland at Southern Cross would be a great sight once I manage to get the chance to ride it. I had a look around SC station whilst there, as well as Flinders Street station, very good architecture for both stations. Got a myki as well.

It's a shame that a BL class locomotive doesen't pull the consist anymore, just the same old NR's.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
Only 12 on the Christmas Overdue?  Anyone remember the days it had to be split to fit in at Spencer Street and had two locos on the front?

I met a backpacking friend off the train around 8 years ago now on her way from Perth to Cairns over land and a day or so before Christmas.  If I recall correctly there were 23 vehicles on the train and definitely a pair of NRs up front.

And while that was much longer than the regular consist of the day and it is encouraging to see well-loaded trains and decent use being made of intermediate stops I still believe there is an argument for a daily service in both directions.  And with at least an hour trimmed from the somewhat pedestrian schedule as well.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Interesting situation with the overland in Melbourne this morning. NR67 was rostered to take the train west to Adelaide. It is older stood the locomotive was faulty with NR25 with 9317 arriving at Southern Cross. The 93 was placed onto the train with NR25 hauling NR67 back to the LPC.

NR67 came into the LPC from UGL Spotswood yesterday.

9317 with the overland through Gheringhap a short time ago at 10:04am.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
GSR have an arrangement with several car rental companies around Australia, any surplus space on the motor rail is bought by them and their cars are moved/returned by GSR.

In place on the Ghan and IP as well.
"stevfam"


GSR have always done "un-accompanied" motorail.
I had the work ute sent to Perth and back a few years ago, GSR's price was a third of what the trucking companies wanted for the same thing!
Was also cheaper than freighting the job materials over and hiring a car over there.
(Interesting note .... the trucking companies said that the vehicle had to be 'empty' whilst GSR said as long as the vehicle is not overloaded and they can see out the mirrors!)

AM8 8702 U OVERLAND 1723 (171 NR61(PN) INC, 1 X GHAN & 1 X IP CARS. 12V S/G
"freightgate"

For those who don't realise, Ghan and IP carriages come from the same pool, the side 'nameplates' are interchangable

Only 12 on the Christmas Overdue?  Anyone remember the days it had to be split to fit in at Spencer Street and had two locos on the front?
"gwiwer"

I can remember (as a youngling) the "Melbourne Express" having 2 divisions both extending past the Morphett St bridge at the old Adelaide Railway Station, with two 900's or two 930's at the noisy end
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Is this the first time 93s have been used on pass trains , can be a quirky think to drive and not sure how they'd go in pass service .
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Is this the first time 93s have been used on pass trains , can be a quirky think to drive and not sure how they'd go in pass service .
BDA


no. the 93 class ( i think this could be the forth) have previously run the overland.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I seem to remember hearing that a couple of them were over that way for crew training .
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Operation of Class 93's is now very common.  As recently as this week.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
At least they're using something a bit more recent Wink  The NRs are now middle-aged and about as reliable as the BLs were before them.  In other words quite good but not quite good enough.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
I bet they've not quite worked on the BM/MB services, so they've been tallied around a bit to services that they can be used on runs where they don't need to be refueled as often.
  CS2905 Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra, ACT
Does anyone know where I can find a seating plan for The Overland's "Red" (economy) carriages, which shows where the windows are relative to the seats?

Failing that, does anyone know which seats have a good view out the window, and which are the seats to avoid?
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
I'm not sure there is anything which shows where seats are relative to windows / pillars and as far as I recall when you book you're given the seat they sell you.  I've never been offered any choice and when I have asked for a specific seat I've been told curtly that they don't accept special seating requests.
  CS2905 Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra, ACT
In this case I only want to travel from Ararat to Southern Cross, so I'm intending to book it via the V/Line site. The V/Line site offers 60 seats to choose from (less any which have already been reserved), but the seat selection graphic doesn't show where the windows are.

I've scoured the web looking for clues, but got nowhere. The closest would be a few internal photos, but none of them show enough for me to be able to work it out. I'll call GSR tomorrow, and see if they'll tell me.

Failing any info, I might just pick a non-aisle seat in the middle somewhere, and if I've picked a dud, hope that the passenger numbers are low enough that I can move to a vacant seat with a view.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Don't bother with putting too much effort into seat selection - GSR will give you whatever number comes up next on their system without paying any attention to what you selected on the V/Line website. V/Line should really remove the seat selection from Overland bookings as it's misleading advertising, but my guess is their website has it just because it won't be able to process a reservation without it.
  CS2905 Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra, ACT
Ah, OK. Good to know, thanks. In that case, GSR probably makes sure that V/Line ticket holders get the non-viewing seats. Confused
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Ah, OK. Good to know, thanks. In that case, GSR probably makes sure that V/Line ticket holders get the non-viewing seats. Confused
"CS2905"
No, their booking system is not that advanced.

V/Line gets one whole coach which GSR's booking system simply treats as a third ticket class (i.e. lower than Red and Red Premium).
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
a third ticket class (i.e. lower than Red and Red Premium).

Meaning your sausage rolls and coffee are even colder than for normal steerage?
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Last time I used the Overland was in the middle of one summer when it was bloody hot on the day. I am disappointed grateful to say I brought my lunch with me rather than planning on GSR's specialty of a deliciously crispy bland and soggy sausage roll a la Panasonic, so I unfortunately thankfully can't report on what it was like in normal steerage.

Colder coffee would have been very welcome though. The ice coffee I got from a shop in Ararat (I was changing to head to Ballarat on V/Line) was terrible - not only warm but also that watery Big M crap - obviously Ararat is too deep into Mexican territory for a FUIC.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
One issue I've had with the Overland is that they have not had much of a meal selection available compared to Countrylink. The Overland has a whole Cafeteria car but not much of a food selection.

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