New Route: Princes Bridge/City Loop-Epping

 
Topic moved from MSTS General Discussions by bevans on 24 Jun 2014 10:13
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line



Thanks,  Still a long work in progress in between finishing off some trains, to be released eventually or hopefully this year, the route is sort of something to keep me occupied when I am really bored. I am very new to the route building side of things but I am somewhat getting the hang of it but mind you the Route Editor is very very annoying at times.

Cheers, Justin.
"justin"


looking great. when do you think that it will be released???


thanks

 
"matt2010"



It will be released when it's completed, as the developer it's very hard to predict when I will have it done, Route building takes a lot of stress and work, I am having a bit of trouble here and there so I cannot tell you a completion date. Just a word of advice; It's not nice to ask the developer when its going to be released until they post some kind of information specifying a estimated release date, it just irks me. Sorry if I sound rude, I myself was once like that when I started on here but I learned by people getting down my throat.

Thanks for the heads up there, patience is a virtue and time will tell.

Cheers, Justin.

Sponsored advertisement

  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Here's a little update, The track now goes to Lalor and it will be the mid 1980's.

Cheers, Justin.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
G'day everyone just some progress shots.




Hope you enjoy what's coming, slight bit of scenery lots more to come.

Cheers, Justin.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
G'day people, here's some more screenies if you're interested. Can anyone tell which location is in the pic bellow??

  woodford Chief Commissioner

Hmmmmmmmmmm I'll bite....................

There appear to be only two candidates, the ring road and the miller st tram over pass. Where the line runs under the ring road I think it has high st running next to it. The line in the vicinity of the tram over pass was duplicated in 1910 and electrified in 1929, even if the overpass was there then (it was,it appears to have been built somewhat after 1915). So it does not appear to be either of those......................

?????????
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Hmmmmmmmmmm I'll bite....................

There appear to be only two candidates, the ring road and the miller st tram over pass. Where the line runs under the ring road I think it has high st running next to it. The line in the vicinity of the tram over pass was duplicated in 1910 and electrified in 1929, even if the overpass was there then (it was,it appears to have been built somewhat after 1915). So it does not appear to be either of those......................

?????????
"woodford"


Not the Miller street overpass no, But..... It is the Western Ring Road Overpass near Thomastown where the line passes under and Epping Rd/High Street runs parallel.
I couldn't get the structure 100% identical but I used similar pieces and decorated it to make it look more realistic. Still a lot more vegetation and scenery to go. This is the late 1980's just before the renewal of the wooden overheads. The overpass wasn't there back in the day but I do believe under construction during that time, I like passing under it on the train so I thought to myself "Meh, It's my route, Doesn't have to be exact to date but decide to go semi modern and old school at the same time.

Cheers, Justin.
  Braddo Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narre Warren
Couldn't help noticing that mug has the Metropolitan Transit logo on it rather than The Met one...
  Taitset Chief Commissioner

Location: Eltham, (former) vintage safeworking capital of Melbourne
Couldn't help noticing that mug has the Metropolitan Transit logo on it rather than The Met one...
"Braddo"

For a brief period of time the Metropolitan Transit logo appeared with the 'The Met' lettering, one example being the 4D when it was delivered.
  Victoria-Bitter Junior Train Controller

Location: Banned
I couldn't get the structure 100% identical but I used similar pieces and decorated it to make it look more realistic. Still a lot more vegetation and scenery to go. This is the late 1980's just before the renewal of the wooden overheads. The overpass wasn't there back in the day but I do believe under construction during that time
"justin"

Construction of that section of the Western Ring Road didn't commence until the early-mid 1990s, therefore it is inaccurate and should not be there.

Initial construction of the WRR/MRR commenced in 1989 with the Jacana Tunnel, not that section.


I like passing under it on the train so I thought to myself "Meh, It's my route, Doesn't have to be exact to date but decide to go semi modern and old school at the same time.
"justin"

What on earth do you mean that you "like passing under it"? It's just a big concrete bridge, wow.

Your route is historically inaccurate and unless you take out that bridge and other inaccurate things it's a pointless route, it's meant to represent a period.

And how on earth could you spend so long making a bridge and putting in some inaccurate shopping centre sign without even adding the road that parallels the railway line?

Try harder next time.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
I couldn't get the structure 100% identical but I used similar pieces and decorated it to make it look more realistic. Still a lot more vegetation and scenery to go. This is the late 1980's just before the renewal of the wooden overheads. The overpass wasn't there back in the day but I do believe under construction during that time
"justin"

Construction of that section of the Western Ring Road didn't commence until the early-mid 1990s, therefore it is inaccurate and should not be there.

Initial construction of the WRR/MRR commenced in 1989 with the Jacana Tunnel, not that section.


I like passing under it on the train so I thought to myself "Meh, It's my route, Doesn't have to be exact to date but decide to go semi modern and old school at the same time.
"justin"

What on earth do you mean that you "like passing under it"? It's just a big concrete bridge, wow.

Your route is historically inaccurate and unless you take out that bridge and other inaccurate things it's a pointless route, it's meant to represent a period.

And how on earth could you spend so long making a bridge and putting in some inaccurate shopping centre sign without even adding the road that parallels the railway line?

Try harder next time.
"Victoria-Bitter"



Well you wouldn't know how hard route building is, You cannot say it for yourself and hence, it is only in very early stages so a lot more work to go.
Maybe keep that sort of criticism till when you actually drive the route for yourself i.e when It's complete.

Anyhow as the builder of "My" own route It's "My" very own and I shall do exactly what I like with it . Most of it is historically accurate but I can build what I want when I want where I want because the route is under construction by me so if you don't like it then i.e, leave this thread, make your own and go annoy other people.

Cheers, Justin.
  MattOatenVR Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne


Your route is historically inaccurate and unless you take out that bridge and other inaccurate things it's a pointless route, it's meant to represent a period.

And how on earth could you spend so long making a bridge and putting in some inaccurate shopping centre sign without even adding the road that parallels the railway line?

Try harder next time.
"Victoria-Bitter"


Not to be rude. If you don't like it, then MAKE YOUR OWN ROUTE. These developers put hours in to their route and do it in their own free time. They don't get paid or profit from it.

Now you can be polite and suggest your ideas, but to just openly criticize is just childish.
Let's see you make a route and let us criticize everything about it. Better, yet don't download this route.
Justin put it perfectly "Leave this thread, make your own and go annoy other people."
It's people like you who cause developers to either keep it for private use or worse, stop the project.

How about you "Try harder next time" and act like an adult.

Justin,
Your enthusiasm shows, and your quality content is an example of your dedication.
I look forward to watching the progress of this route.

Matt Oaten.
  JGS Moderator Well. We'll see about THAT!

Location: Junee NSW
G'day folks,

On reading this diatribe...

Construction...blah blah...therefore it is inaccurate and should not be there.

(sniiiiiiiip)

Your route is historically inaccurate...blah blah...it's a pointless route...blah blah...Try harder next time.
"Victoria-Bitter"



...I have to laugh. Justin, my response to this ill-considered outburst is "You don't like it? Build your own!"

The beauty of MSTS route and model creation is that one can do whatever takes their fancy. Metro Comeng running with 1936 Tait? No worries. 1950s Southern Mainline route with 2012 Junee Roundhouse diesel servicing facilities? Yup! Doubleheaded R753 and 3822? Melbourne tram depot in 1930s downtown Indianapolis on my interurban route? Too easy.

Victoria Bitter, unless you're a member of the Ruling Council of MSTS Accuracy, please don't presume to tell others how to do it.

Justin, you're going well. Keep at it, mate.

Anyhow as the builder of "My" own route It's "My" very own and I shall do exactly what I like with it
"Justin"


Well said. That's what I like to hear!

Cheers,
Matt
  PhilChorusch Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Construction of that section of the Western Ring Road didn't commence until the early-mid 1990s, therefore it is inaccurate and should not be there.

Initial construction of the WRR/MRR commenced in 1989 with the Jacana Tunnel, not that section.

What on earth do you mean that you "like passing under it"? It's just a big concrete bridge, wow.

Your route is historically inaccurate and unless you take out that bridge and other inaccurate things it's a pointless route, it's meant to represent a period.

And how on earth could you spend so long making a bridge and putting in some inaccurate shopping centre sign without even adding the road that parallels the railway line?

Try harder next time.
"Victoria-Bitter"


What the hell do you mean Try Harder Next Time? How dare you say that you scum, Justin is already trying hard getting his terrific route built and there's no need to pick on him for this I am glad to see Justin's route looking good and coming along nicely and I am also glad that he is well ahead of me with my routes that I have put aside to complete a few 3d models

If an author quotes that he/she likes going under a bridge it's because they feel good about themselves of achiving something that's going to be worth while once their routes are released a route doesn't need to be accurate to a set date, authors can change these at anytime whenever he/she may please as it is their route(s)

Your post makes me wonder how many other routes you intend to criticize, if you have that sort of attitude then leave this thread alone and move on or better still if you have nothing to say that is possitive and encouraging to any author then don't say nothing at all

All route builders try their hardest to get their routes out into the MSTS community even the ones who are or have just started route building, I would truely love to see you build a route mate because I will not be there for you and I'm sure no one here will be there for you either but you see we're not like this because we help others at this forum as well as on other forums for whenever we can and however we can the door swings both ways

The old saying just for you.... Never judge a book by it's cover, in MSTS terms never judge routes or models by it's looks

Keep up the terrific work Justin, I am honestly happy to see your hard work coming along mate
Kind Regards, Phil
PS. VB if you really want to criticize a route, then visit my North Coast or Molong to Broken Hill threads and I will show you more then inaccurate
  JGS Moderator Well. We'll see about THAT!

Location: Junee NSW
Now now, Phil,

What the hell do you mean Try Harder Next Time? How dare you say that you scum, Justin is already trying hard getting his terrific route built and there's no need to pick on him for this
"PhilChorusch"


There's no need to call him 'scum'. It's fair to evauate what he said, but attacks on the person rather than the words aren't really helpful.

I don't know Victoria Bitter, and he could be a top bloke. My response was to his comments, not him as a person. I think he spoke rubbish and was out of line. I don't think he 'is' anything in particular. Wink

Cheers,
Matt
  PhilChorusch Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Thanks Matt, for your post it has put me into my place

I wish to apologise to Victoria Bitter, for the name calling I honestly got angry because I know that Justin is doing his very best getting his terrific route done and yes I do owe you an apology for calling you a scum as it wasn't worth it and I am really sorry mate

If you are still interested in criticizing any routes feel free to pick on mine, as I will show you about inaccuracy but I don't think I will need to show you mate as it's all there if the screenshots are still there

But anyway, feel free to post your judgements in my North Coast and Molong to Broken Hill threads
Kind Regards, Phil
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Hi guys, here's some more progress.











Enjoy!!!

Cheers, Justin.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Great work Justin!
  billybaxter Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Excellent work Justin.  Very Happy
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Thanks Guys!!

Cheers, Justin.
  Lance-Fieldline Train Controller

Location: Stalybridge Station Buffet
Hi there

Excellent work Justin

When you get a few moments could you also do it for Railworks 3  LaughingShocked

Cheers
Lance
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Hi there Excellent work Justin When you get a few moments could you also do it for Railworks 3 LaughingShocked Cheers Lance
"Lance-Fieldline"


If I have time to maybe so and once I start learning how to use the route tools then maybe that could be possible.

Cheers, Justin.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Hiya guys,

Here are some new screens taken of Keon Park-Epping rebuild to make sure gradients and curves were more realistic. We've even included the Epping Depot and sidings.
Thanks to the help of Melbournesparks for making this part of the accuracy rebuild successful. Still a lot of work to be done on the whole entire route.

Here's some more recent pics of the progress.












Cheers, Justin.



  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
There are pics as above in earlier posts.

Cheers, Justin.
  Victoria-Bitter Junior Train Controller

Location: Banned
That "station" looks like nothing at all on the Epping line, past or present. Try again.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
That "station" looks like nothing at all on the Epping line, past or present. Try again.
"Victoria-Bitter"


Okay then REMOVED BY MODERATOR, would you like to go through the effort of using a 3D building software called TSM and build us a 1989 Epping Station Building and texture it for us??
 
We are about to do that. I myself, Matt Austin and Melbournesparks have had a word to you before, clearly it's not sinking in your brain.

You're not a member of the MSTS Community. So go on "On ya bike boy and get!!"


[edit]Please do not quote users personal details, to protect their privacy. Instead if there is an issue report it to us! Thanks[/edit]

Sponsored advertisement

Display from:   

Quick Reply

We've disabled Quick Reply for this thread as it was last updated more than six months ago.