General Cityrail Network Observations

 
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Found a diagram link http://www.asa.transport.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/asa/railcorp-legacy/disciplines/rollingstock/toc-track-diagrams.pdf
The original layout should stay, especially if the system is at overload in peak, the pioneers got it right.

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  Highrise Assistant Commissioner

Found a diagram link http://www.asa.transport.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/asa/railcorp-legacy/disciplines/rollingstock/toc-track-diagrams.pdf
The original layout should stay, especially if the system is at overload in peak, the pioneers got it right.
Junction box
It's not too much of an issue, only real issue is that there will not be dual up and down right hand crossovers between Lidcombe and Granville. They will have to make use of the single right hand crossovers intended for Lidcombe loop.

It's a good idea moving the points to the city end, it's rough as guts going through Auburn, and has been for quite a few years.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
I see what they are doing, giving ladder crossovers to Lidcombe panel, not much of a cost cut when there will be more points to look after.
I also notice Clyde down yard has been re signalled at the country end for entry to maintrain from the relief.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

The Lidcombe Ladder has never been used a great deal to take trains from the Down Suburban to the Down Main, or Up Main to Up Suburban, and I don't believe these movements will happen under this new track arrangement.  

The new points on the Sydney side of Auburn have been built more for the purpose of better access to and from AMF and MainTrain.  

I agree that flexibility is again been taken out of the equation.
A train on the Down Suburban will generally remain on that Line from Homebush to Granville and then onwards when it changes to the Down West Main.
A train on the Up Main will generally stay on that Line from Granville to Homebush.  


- Scott.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Liverpool Turnback will come into use from January 11.

Through trains to Glenfield and Campbelltown will therefore start using Platform 4 from that date.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I have a bit of a random question, why are K Sets targeted with such high numbers (K1-4 are notable exceptions)?
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Unusual move into Campbelltown is afternoon that I don't recall having happened before in my many years of commuting. Macarthur terminating train comes in to p2 of Campbelltown to drop passengers. This happens a lot when the train is terminating and going straight to the yards, but not to keep going through to Macarthur.  Didn' t see whether it continued on the normal up mains track in reverse or moved back to the down mains on the southern end of the station  only to cross back over at Macarthur.  The normal p3 drop off for macarthur trains was blocked by a silver set that had previously terminated and was sitting there with doors closed, no guard visible.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Unusual move into Campbelltown is afternoon that I don't recall having happened before in my many years of commuting. Macarthur terminating train comes in to p2 of Campbelltown to drop passengers. This happens a lot when the train is terminating and going straight to the yards, but not to keep going through to Macarthur. Didn' t see whether it continued on the normal up mains track in reverse or moved back to the down mains on the southern end of the station only to cross back over at Macarthur. The normal p3 drop off for macarthur trains was blocked by a silver set that had previously terminated and was sitting there with doors closed, no guard visible.
jcouch

From information I have, this train, if continuing to Macarthur, would have crossed back to the Down Main shortly after departing Platform 2 at Campbelltown.  

The Up Main is not signalled for a Down direction movement.  


- Scott.
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

I saw a K or S set at Flemington today, heading towards Strathfield, (sorry, I can't tell them apart from a distance) and it said Emu Plains on it's desto, then around 40-50 minute's later, on the way back home, I saw another one heading towards Strathfield in Homebush with 'Emu Plains' on it's desto. Is it just a coincidence that both desto's were wrong or what explains that?
  bjwh86 Chief Train Controller

Sydney trains silver sets regularly have either no desto shown or the wrong desto shown, went past Lidcombe this arvo and the C set doing the Olympic Park shuttle had Clyde on it.
  Blackadder Chief Commissioner

Location: Not the ECRL
A case of either a board that's frozen, or train crew having some fun, Often on the North Shore you will see a Silver Set headed to East Hills etc
  bjwh86 Chief Train Controller

That silver set is abit like that T set with Dapto, been running to East Hills for atleast 12 months
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Don't recall how I came across this link, but a nice little company self-promotion and video of some trackwork done near Harris Park in November.

http://anricdevelopments.com/project/switch-replacment/

What is interesting to me is that the points replacements I've seen done in the past built a complete new set on the side of the track and then they shifted the whole lot in to the new location. Here they are showing that they left the sleepers in place and only replaced the rails.  Which is the more common technique?
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

This may seem obvious, but anyway, if you go behind Aldi on George Street, North Strathfield, there are construction works for the Nth Strathfield Rail Underpass right at the back of the Aldi, what are they doing?
  smithagain Junior Train Controller

This may seem obvious, but anyway, if you go behind Aldi on George Street, North Strathfield, there are construction works for the Nth Strathfield Rail Underpass right at the back of the Aldi, what are they doing?
Silver S Set

That's where the tunnel emerges?

According to Transport for NSW site.
"Where is the tunnel located?
The tunnel starts south of North Strathfield Station, on the Queen Street (eastern) side of the tracks. It then crosses
diagonally under the tracks and finishes near the Arnott’s buildings on the western side of the tracks. The north and
south tunnel declines connect the tunnel to the above ground rail services".
  8603 Locomotive Driver

Location: Canberra
Channel 9 ran a story tonight about the project and showed the underpass. The story said tunneling will start very soon and would be finished by early or mid next year.
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Has anybody else noticed that the Tangara's are having their numbers replaced lower on the sides; and much of them are put on crooked. I know it's trivial but it bothers me that people changing the numbers can't put them on at least level with each other.
Also with the Tangaras, I've noticed some have now got full-width vestibule connections between carriages; Is this a trial or a replacement being roll-out across the fleet?

Cheers
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Has anybody else noticed that the Tangara's are having their numbers replaced lower on the sides; and much of them are put on crooked. I know it's trivial but it bothers me that people changing the numbers can't put them on at least level with each other.
Also with the Tangaras, I've noticed some have now got full-width vestibule connections between carriages; Is this a trial or a replacement being roll-out across the fleet?

Cheers
meh

The numbers had to be lowered on the driving/cab carriages to allow for the new Sydney trains logos to be put on. Also IIRC, T65 has an Oscar-style connection between carriages which could be what you're talking about and I believe it was/is a trial.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Has anybody else noticed that the Tangara's are having their numbers replaced lower on the sides; and much of them are put on crooked. I know it's trivial but it bothers me that people changing the numbers can't put them on at least level with each other.
Also with the Tangaras, I've noticed some have now got full-width vestibule connections between carriages; Is this a trial or a replacement being roll-out across the fleet?
"meh"

Definitely. Some vary in height from carriage to carriage in a set. There's even one or two that start straight but slant down at the end. God knows why they couldn't do it better.

I think it's the same set with the OSCAR inter-carriage connection.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
I think it's the same set with the OSCAR inter-carriage connection.
Aurora8

T65.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
If you are going past MIST in the next hour or so, get the camera out. One of the container lift tractors has over extended and toppled over forwards. I was on the other side of the train as we went past, but it looks like it was resting on one of the rail wagons too. Quite a few people and trucks around probably working out what to do. Crane is still attched to the container and the rear wheels are sevral metres in the air.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
An STN has been issued for removal of references in the WTT to "Guardian" services starting from this weekend. Have they shelved this initiative?

EDIT: Looks like it's true - replaced with "Operation Rolling Shield".

Operation Rolling Shield media release
Police patrols will be intelligence driven, meaning officers will be at locations identified as hotspots for either criminal activity or anti-social behaviour.

I don't see how that's any different to any other time of the day. Sounds like they're just saving face from disbanding the Guardian service initiative.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
For the past week, the city via Sydenham express services from Campbelltown have been using Sydenham P1 rather than the usual P3. I can't see any work happening on P3. Anyone know why this is the case? The trains do their normal thing coming through Wolli Creek and then just before Sydenham station do the slow cross over to the Bankstown tracks just before entering the platform.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Collection of notes from this morning's commute:

* K70 is fresh out of what looks like a major overhaul going in to campbelltown - fresh sparkly paint on everything, including what look like new bogies
* 6 car endeavour set parked on platform 1 at East Hills. Probably the casualty from last night's flooding at Bardwell Park. However that meant the usual two morning starters from there were not going to happen.
* Flooding left quite a lot of debris in and around the tracks along Bardwell Park area.
  honeybadger7 Beginner

Collection of notes from this morning's commute:

* K70 is fresh out of what looks like a major overhaul going in to campbelltown - fresh sparkly paint on everything, including what look like new bogies
* 6 car endeavour set parked on platform 1 at East Hills. Probably the casualty from last night's flooding at Bardwell Park. However that meant the usual two morning starters from there were not going to happen.
* Flooding left quite a lot of debris in and around the tracks along Bardwell Park area.
jcouch


Just to correct you there about your state at East Hills, I also saw that but it was an Explorer Set and not endeavour set. They may look the same but these Six Car has a middle carriage, Endeavour Sets do not have middle carriage.

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