The whereabouts of the AN class locos

 
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
No , that's the intent but can't see the enthusiasm of having one on the front if an NR is available . ANs do have a bit more room in the cab than some engines of the era but an NR is head and shoulders above anything that came out of SA - or any State or Territory in their era . The vast majority of crews reckon superior cab conditions are more important than exterior splendour and many here reckon an AN is anything but pretty .
Think inside the tent looking out vs outside looking in , most crews couldn't care less about photographers conditions .

What will show up is that the ANS etc won't drag what the current ACs can so more engines will be needed more often and engine failures will more often become train failures . We'll find out what that does to service quality .

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  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
No , that's the intent but can't see the enthusiasm of having one on the front if an NR is available . ANs do have a bit more room in the cab than some engines of the era but an NR is head and shoulders above anything that came out of SA - or any State or Territory in their era . The vast majority of crews reckon superior cab conditions are more important than exterior splendour and many here reckon an AN is anything but pretty .
Think inside the tent looking out vs outside looking in , most crews couldn't care less about photographers conditions .

What will show up is that the ANS etc won't drag what the current ACs can so more engines will be needed more often and engine failures will more often become train failures . We'll find out what that does to service quality .
"BDA"


Very well then.

Guess I won't be needing to use my camcorder/camera.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Very well then.

Guess I won't be needing to use my camcorder/camera.
greasyrhys

This could be crazy, but if the other bazllion trains out there don't attract your attention, then maybe invest your time photographing other things :Shocked:
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
I'll still do train spotting when I have the time, but I'll basically ignore anything with a GE loco up front (besides an EL).
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Send all the operators to the burns unit .
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Send all the operators to the burns unit .
BDA

That's exactly what I was thinking. I hardly think we need to announce our preferences for locomotives on these forums in otherwise interesting discussion threads. Mostly because, and I can't stress this enough, nobody cares!
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Sorry for asking, thought the AN's had roomy cabs. But are some still being upgraded to allow them to lead intermodals, or was this just another rumour?
greasyrhys


That was the initial intention, whether it happens in light of recent announcements is yet to be seen I think. Chances are they probably wont. The cabs are roomy enough and the upgrades are pretty well done apart from the tiny bar fridge, but still a long way short of anything an NR has to offer. The desktop controls are probably the main drawback.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Desk top was always a PITA , small radius controls are awkward and difficult to operate with any finesse . You always feel slumped over the desk and leaning on your arms is really nowhere . I really don't know why the Americans thought that this idea was an upgrade over the AAR control stand . It may have given "cab visitors" a feeling of modern lines but to natural inhabitants - POS ...
Generally ANs are good units and you can't deny they look and sound the part , all let down by desk crap .
Result , good slave unit .
  trainlover Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide.
Yet anther AN has turned up at Islington South Australia this morning arrived in on 6MA5 is AN5 frpm Melbourne.
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Definitely interesting that some AN's are starting to return to SA. Sadly neither AN6 or AN11 have led into SA since returning, given they have the same power as those annoying nr's, the AN's deserve to be treated the same regardless of crew comfort!
greasyrhys

If your so obsessed with your precious AN's leading trains, Start your own train operating company, start/take over a hook and pull contract, hire rolling stock, hire a AN/DL/What ever the hell isn't a NR or NR descendent, find appropriate crews then stand track side (try not to have the urge to void your self) while watching your precious AN's leading a twain.
Either that or just be happy that a AN is on a train at all and that PN hasn't sold/scrapped them.

..... End rant
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Also your realise that the oh so naughty PN are running AN's/DL's as lead units on the east coast?
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
I dont mind him asking, the fact of the matter is though on PN services in SA you wont get anything other than an NR leading. Although there's some interesting news regarding that Bemax train so keep a look out for that in the coming months (if it happens of course).
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
I do realise they're used as lead locos over the border, can't afford to go there ($$$) for now.
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Then shutup and be happy AN's are running into Adelaide at all
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I dont mind him asking, the fact of the matter is though on PN services in SA you wont get anything other than an NR leading. Although there's some interesting news regarding that Bemax train so keep a look out for that in the coming months (if it happens of course).
Typhon

I don't mind him asking about AN's the point which pisses me off is he continually bitches about how NR's make trains boring and how badly a AN feels because it gets shafted. It's not only here but on Facebook too...
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
I dont mind him asking, the fact of the matter is though on PN services in SA you wont get anything other than an NR leading. Although there's some interesting news regarding that Bemax train so keep a look out for that in the coming months (if it happens of course).
"Typhon"


I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

And for the record, my favourite type of loco are the BL's, as they were built in SA, plus I love the Leslie Supertyfon's they have (best sounding horns IMO).
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Bad luck then cause the best Type Hoon wissles were on C Classes .
  Kafoopsy Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
If your so obsessed with your precious AN's leading trains, Start your own train operating company, start/take over a hook and pull contract, hire rolling stock, hire a AN/DL/What ever the hell isn't a NR or NR descendent, find appropriate crews then stand track side (try not to have the urge to void your self) while watching your precious AN's leading a twain.
Either that or just be happy that a AN is on a train at all and that PN hasn't sold/scrapped them.

..... End rant
ARK95

Pardon me for putting up a counter-rant.  When anyone in this forum says 'should be done' or similar, they are always starting their own wishful opinion. I do the same thing.  I think the ANs and DLs should return to WA and be leading because they look and sound better than the NRs.  I realise why that is never likely to happen, but that is my wishful opinion and like other people's opinions, it is usually expressed as a 'should be done' type statement.

BDA
Bad luck then cause the best Type Hoon wissles were on C Classes .

They all used the same Leslie S5 horn.  I love the sound of those.  AN, DL, some Gs, BL, and C classes had them. Some of the Victorian A and B classes had them, the N class have them.  The CLP and CLF classes have them, but they sound muted as they are behind the cow catcher, I think.  It would be so good if the NRs had them!
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Pardon me for putting up a counter-rant. When anyone in this forum says 'should be done' or similar, they are always starting their own wishful opinion. I do the same thing. I think the ANs and DLs should return to WA and be leading because they look and sound better than the NRs. I realise why that is never likely to happen, but that is my wishful opinion and like other people's opinions, it is usually expressed as a 'should be done' type statement.
Kafoopsy

The difference is, you (and other mature, sensible members) will express such a desire as an obvious wish, and not as a statement made repeatedly over multiple threads, at the same time contributing nothing of note to that thread. It's one thing to express an enthusiasts desire to see/photograph certain locomotives, but to constantly prattle on about it in various threads whilst adding nothing to the discussion, it wears thin.

The user who has generated the "harsh" replies needs to read them, because he's a repeat offender. Constantly mumbling about this loco and that loco should be returned "home" for no other reason than he wants to photograph them. We get it, but we don't care.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

I love AN and EL class, but I also think NR is awesome. The AN and EL locos will continue to work the lines for some considerable time because there are locos out there in use that are ancient and should have been scrapped decades ago.
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner



BDA
They all used the same Leslie S5 horn. I love the sound of those. AN, DL, some Gs, BL, and C classes had them. Some of the Victorian A and B classes had them, the N class have them. The CLP and CLF classes have them, but they sound muted as they are behind the cow catcher, I think. It would be so good if the NRs had them!
Kafoopsy

The Leslie five chime horns fitted to the C class have have what is designated as "S" type power chambers (where the diaphragms are housed). These horns are designated S-5T. Later horns have a different power chamber, the "RS" type, which give the horns a considerably different sound. These horns are designated RS-5T. You can find more details on these differences at: http://locomotivehorns.info/leslie/supertyfon.shtml

BW
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
After a period of about 2 weeks without any AN's visiting SA, on Tuesday AN8 was second loco on WX2.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
AN3 is officially in PN stare livery, still at the Port Augusta workshops.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
AN3 is officially in PN stare livery, still at the Port Augusta workshops.
greasyrhys


So no more long vacant looks at The Ghan livery then.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Yep. Although I'm not upset that AN3 was repainted. After all, it's very likely the 3 nr 's (74, 75, 109) will one day follow suit...

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