The Newcastle Rail Line IS to be cut, announced 14 dec 2012

 
  cuthbert Train Controller

You "peasants" (the way you are treated by big business) have no idea! The corrupt people in charge will do what they consider is to be in the best interest of the Developers of the Urban Renewal project for Newcastle.

Nothing yous can do now - because yous voted "them in"!

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  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Cuthbert, you are forgetting one thing, and that is that despite what Tim Owen, Developer-Mayor, Paul Murphy/NCA/HBC/HDC say, that at both the state and council elections, that their was NO campaigning on getting rid of the Newcastle Rail Line at either election.
  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
Cuthbert is also clearly a moron as Labor were promising the exact same thing.
  mikado5910 Chief Train Controller

Location: Kurri Kurri NSW
Cuthbert is also clearly a moron as Labor were promising the exact same thing.
"drwaddles"


You are wrong drwaddles. The ALP policy position on the rail line has not changed since 2006. While it may not have been clearly enunciated, ALP policy was to retain the line. [Don't mistake the comments of individual MPs for party policy] This was reiterated by John Robertson in Newcastle last week, as a result of recent shadow cabinet discussions.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Jeff McCloy on 2SM now - and naturally that host gave praise for the developer mayor for a Wickham terminus
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney


The are no longer any turnouts/crossovers at Wickham, so how will the truncated services terminate ????
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

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And now we see that the host has mislead (I'd prefer to use the "L" word) his listeners. He falsely claims that when he spoke about this subject last year, that EVERYBODY that called, supported cutting the rail line. That is a lie, as callers also rang up in support of keeping the rail line.

A caller about 10 minutes ago, attempted (note attempted) to talk about the side of keeping the rail line. But he was quickly talked over. The host asked him where do you live, and the caller replied East Maitland, and the host said  it won't affect you.

Now isn't interesting, he mentioned the NBN poll. He claims that that phone poll (it's not a phone poll) that the votes can be tracked. Don't see what he is trying to get at there.

That poll has over 1,300 who took part, yet the survey poll by the property council of Australia, that was used as a decison to try and cut the rail line had only 600 who took part, and the PCA questions were loaded, for example their survey used but both Broadmeadow & Newcastle in the one question.

Not saying it was, but it almost sounded like the host was reading from a script.

While a host does have opinions, he or she should allow both sides of an issue (no matter what subject), instead of just talking over those that the host doesn't agree with.
  NotebookMan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wahroonga NSW

The are no longer any turnouts/crossovers at Wickham, so how will the truncated services terminate ????
"awsgc24"

Single line working on the up line between Wickham and the crossover at Hamilton Junction Box, which will be secured by FPL for up passenger movements. MU or top and tail only. Ordinary Train Staff safeworking, no tickets. That's how you make sure you don't have to sink any capital into the truncation. Operational complications? The technical people will sort them out; political imperatives take precedence.
  NotebookMan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wahroonga NSW

The are no longer any turnouts/crossovers at Wickham, so how will the truncated services terminate ????
"awsgc24"

Single line working on the up line between Wickham and the crossover at Hamilton Junction Box, which will be secured by FPL for up passenger movements. MU or top and tail only. Ordinary Train Staff safeworking, no tickets. That's how you make sure you don't have to sink any capital into the truncation. Operational complications? The technical people will sort them out; political imperatives take precedence.
"NotebookMan"

In response to innocent questions, yes, I was being sarcastic.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

The are no longer any turnouts/crossovers at Wickham, so how will the truncated services terminate ????
"awsgc24"


They are going to spend many millions implementing this which may include a 3rd platform, storage yard and other bits and pieces for bus interchange and fast bus network. A few cross overs is the least of their worries.
  Hughsey1998 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
A comic take on this issue. Seems Hitler is not pleased with the news of the Newcastle Line either!  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQO398guzPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQO398guzPU

Very HappyVery Happy
  Hughsey1998 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
**Apologies for the Double Up**
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQO398guzPU
"Hughsey1998"


That is hilarious.
  TomBTR Chief Train Controller

Location: near Sydney
It would be hilarious if it were not so true!
  thadocta Chief Commissioner

Location: Katoomba
**Apologies for the Double Up**
"Hughsey1998"


You *can* always go in and amend your post, you know.

Dave
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
You *can* always go in and amend your post, you know.
"thadocta"


It's a glitch where some YouTube videos get displayed twice despite the link being put in only once.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
A terminal station with four platforms and storage sidings next to a level crossing at Wickham will be something to see, looks like they wanna bulldoze the lot and start again, cost blowout?
You betcha.
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
A comic take on this issue. Seems Hitler is not pleased with the news of the Newcastle Line either!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQO398guzPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQO398guzPU

Very HappyVery Happy
"Hughsey1998"


Nice work Hughsey, Hitler definitely likes his trains Laughing
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Not sure if he will talk about the rail line or not, but acting lord mayor Brad Luke (a Lib.) is to be interviewed on 1233's ABC radio in a few moments. But he does support removing the rail line, so even though it's a state matter, it may be mentioned.
  lunchbox Locomotive Driver

"CUT-N-COVER"
Pardon me for coming in late, but I'd like to expand on the "lower the tracks" option mentioned on page 2 of this thread.
Yes, lowering the tracks would be expensive, but bear in mind that most of the buildings to be built between Wickham and Newcastle Terminal in the next hundred years are going to have underground car parks.
Surely it's not beyond the capacity of our urban planners and regulators to ensure that those underground car parks be aligned in such a way as to accommodate the lowered rail tracks !
It's called transport planning.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Their is to be a protest on Tuesday 19th February 2013 at 11am outside NSW Parliament House.
  244hseriesalco Chief Train Controller


So how many signatures were collected on Saturday. Whilst our RTM train was at the platform large numbers of people were signing them (me included), so just curious to see what the numbers were.

Also noted that every cityrail service in and out of Newcastle on Australia day was very well patronised, one wonders how interchanging all those people at Wickham will work on event days like the 26th. The cityrail staff did a good job to direct people to the correct train/platform and it worked quite well considering No1 platform was tied up by us for 4 or so hours.

I also dont see how such a station (Newcastle, which works well for operational flexibility) would be replicated at Wickham and provide the same level of flexibility, there does not seem to be enough room.

  Murasaki Chief Train Controller

Location: Going sideways... in carriage DET-9216 (>ω<)

But he could not provide any indication of how long it would take commuters to travel from Wickham to the CBD by bus, although he was adamant that it would be quicker.


Bullhonkey! Stopping the train, passengers getting out of the train, moving (walking, running, whatever) to the waiting bus, entering the waiting bus, and the bus travelling between the points (sharing the road with every Tomoko, Duchess and Harriet wot got their vehicle licences from smeggin' Corn Flakes boxes, mind) takes time.

It could never be quicker than the 6 minutes from Hamilton to Newcastle the train takes now.

The HBC, that I declare an affrontation of Darwinism, have failed science forever! (angry-face-emoticon)

  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Bit slow aren't you Boxy: http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11372905.htm!

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