Austrains site updated

 
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

For those looking to order one of the headlight models, Casula Hobbies expect to have them in stock this coming week.

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  a6et Minister for Railways

A quick google reveals 3112 as preserved & operating in 1990 had the grated bunker, at some point after that the bunker got solid extensions added above the grated extensions. The model represents the earlier preserved bunker appearance.
Thanks PJ.

Yes you are right.  I did a google search too and was astounded (only because I had not had a good look at it previously) when I had a detailed look at the most recent contraption adorning 3112's bunker.

A bit off topic of course .....

It appears that when 3112 first entered heritage service it was fitted with a standard grated bunker, but this may have been extended with vertical plating fitted underneath the grating.  Sometime later (definitely after 1988) it had another extension added on top of the grating which took the top of the bunker to align with the roof profile.  This has been further compounded by the practice of piling additional coal on top of the cab roof.

See
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/102519107727013001716/album/AF1QipO9fQljiuyQDJR63kxji5QQQvo9CL3beAD38RAI/AF1QipMMLduF6VjCTs_yj_LeEtkGe7Nlx2q_bQ4eRn86?source=pwa#6115204955021358242

and
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=3112+steam+locomotive&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCsOz5lZPbAhWLErwKHavlCrcQ_AUICygC&biw=1920&bih=963#imgrc=gJ6LtYPO-QJw5M:&spf=1526780868881

This would make an interesting kitbashing exercise to modify the Austrains model to match the later heritage profile.

Further off topic the rebuilt 3112 is approaching the end of an extensive overhaul at CFCLA's Goulburn Workshop.  Hopefully when completed and returned to traffic the bunker will be a bit more aesthetic in appearance.

Happy bunkering,

John
c3526blue
John

The bunker issue with the 30tankers is quite wide and versions since they entered service along with mods over the years mainly as a result of where they were allocated and ran to.  By that consider that some depots had to have extended bunkers owing to the distance the loco's ran before they could get back to a depot for recoiling.

Initially they all had a short bunker that came approximately half way up the fixed window on both sides, The first lot of extensions were to approximately the to the top of the same window.  That bunker size was the most common later in steam days and through the 60's, and very much suitable for jobs like shunting in Sydney Yard, Alexandria yards, also running out to Richmond where they stayed for a week and were coaled at each Blacktown return. Liverpool - Campbeltown was the same.

At Enfield they supplied 30's for Richmond and Cambelltown, also a midnight horror service LE Enfield - Clyde, Last Pax to Carlingford, Pick up service back to Clyde, Down Pick up back to Carlo and first Pax back to Clyde then LE back to Enfield.

At Broadmeadow, they had more extended bunker 30Cl than non extended as the running to Toronto, generally taxed them for coal, running LE BMD - Ncle - Toronto (all stations) & ret, then LE back to Loco, they had little in reserve, thus the extended bunkers were needed. Likewise when working return services to Cessnock.  The Illawarra areas were the same as the tankers ran from Thirroul - Waterfall & return, and again was hard on the coal They also would work trains to PTK and return if a big bunker was on them they could do Coal Cliff then back to Thirroul for engine change.  Not forgetting the Moss Vale passenger from Wgn.

Many had the extensions that flared outwards on the 3 sides. but were solid, some had the 3 bar set ups, and still others had the 3 bars plus a large flat piece of steel welded onto the inside of the top bar.

I have photo's of 3042 with what appears to be a full outward tapered bunker, 3067 with no extension, 3076, bars, 3093 with all steel extended bunker flared top, 3096 with barred extension with solid plate above the bars. 3135 bars, 3138 bars. 3007 with short bunker but flared steel tops, 3025 the same, both Enfield engines working Cambeltown yo yos
Finally 3025 with short original steel bunker with a flared bunker to half windscreen height then bars to top of the windscreen.

Its a real doggy breakfast working them out over the years.
  TedFreeman Junior Train Controller

Location: Toowoomba, Queensland
Another coaling feature with the 30 class on the Richmond line was an attempt to make it easier on the Loco refueler at Richmond (Colin Gray if I remember).

Boards would be wedged in the cab handrails and the whole floor area filled with coal up to the base of the firebox and tapering back up towards the bunker.

Although a bit difficult at first, this practice saved us calling into Richmond loco for refueling after just one round trip, a practice that took a lot of pressure off Colin (an all round nice guy that did a lot of photography.

The 30 class was a well riding, well performing locomotive either Smoke box or bunker first.

If I have any facts incorrect, my apologies, its all from memories.

Ted (Teditor) Freeman
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria

Further off topic the rebuilt 3112 is approaching the end of an extensive overhaul at CFCLA's Goulburn Workshop.  Hopefully when completed and returned to traffic the bunker will be a bit more aesthetic in appearance.

Happy bunkering,

John
c3526blue
The rear bunker is vertically solid and new..
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
A quick google reveals 3112 as preserved & operating in 1990 had the grated bunker, at some point after that the bunker got solid extensions added above the grated extensions. The model represents the earlier preserved bunker appearance.
Thanks PJ.

Yes you are right.  I did a google search too and was astounded (only because I had not had a good look at it previously) when I had a detailed look at the most recent contraption adorning 3112's bunker.

A bit off topic of course .....

It appears that when 3112 first entered heritage service it was fitted with a standard grated bunker, but this may have been extended with vertical plating fitted underneath the grating.  Sometime later (definitely after 1988) it had another extension added on top of the grating which took the top of the bunker to align with the roof profile.  This has been further compounded by the practice of piling additional coal on top of the cab roof.

See
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/102519107727013001716/album/AF1QipO9fQljiuyQDJR63kxji5QQQvo9CL3beAD38RAI/AF1QipMMLduF6VjCTs_yj_LeEtkGe7Nlx2q_bQ4eRn86?source=pwa#6115204955021358242

and
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=3112+steam+locomotive&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCsOz5lZPbAhWLErwKHavlCrcQ_AUICygC&biw=1920&bih=963#imgrc=gJ6LtYPO-QJw5M:&spf=1526780868881

This would make an interesting kitbashing exercise to modify the Austrains model to match the later heritage profile.

Further off topic the rebuilt 3112 is approaching the end of an extensive overhaul at CFCLA's Goulburn Workshop.  Hopefully when completed and returned to traffic the bunker will be a bit more aesthetic in appearance.

Happy bunkering,

John
c3526blue
And Ray Pilgrim would know if the bunker could be printed for those of us who aren't that great with our minds and hands these days Very Happy Ray has modified domes and stacks for the 32 Class ? Seems to enjoy that stuff Ha Ha.

Cheers
Rod
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
John

The bunker issue with the 30tankers is quite wide and versions since they entered service along with mods over the years mainly as a result of where they were allocated and ran to.  By that consider that some depots had to have extended bunkers owing to the distance the loco's ran before they could get back to a depot for recoiling.

Initially they all had a short bunker that came approximately half way up the fixed window on both sides, The first lot of extensions were to approximately the to the top of the same window.  That bunker size was the most common later in steam days and through the 60's, and very much suitable for jobs like shunting in Sydney Yard, Alexandria yards, also running out to Richmond where they stayed for a week and were coaled at each Blacktown return. Liverpool - Campbeltown was the same.

At Enfield they supplied 30's for Richmond and Cambelltown, also a midnight horror service LE Enfield - Clyde, Last Pax to Carlingford, Pick up service back to Clyde, Down Pick up back to Carlo and first Pax back to Clyde then LE back to Enfield.

At Broadmeadow, they had more extended bunker 30Cl than non extended as the running to Toronto, generally taxed them for coal, running LE BMD - Ncle - Toronto (all stations) & ret, then LE back to Loco, they had little in reserve, thus the extended bunkers were needed. Likewise when working return services to Cessnock.  The Illawarra areas were the same as the tankers ran from Thirroul - Waterfall & return, and again was hard on the coal They also would work trains to PTK and return if a big bunker was on them they could do Coal Cliff then back to Thirroul for engine change.  Not forgetting the Moss Vale passenger from Wgn.

Many had the extensions that flared outwards on the 3 sides. but were solid, some had the 3 bar set ups, and still others had the 3 bars plus a large flat piece of steel welded onto the inside of the top bar.

I have photo's of 3042 with what appears to be a full outward tapered bunker, 3067 with no extension, 3076, bars, 3093 with all steel extended bunker flared top, 3096 with barred extension with solid plate above the bars. 3135 bars, 3138 bars. 3007 with short bunker but flared steel tops, 3025 the same, both Enfield engines working Cambeltown yo yos
Finally 3025 with short original steel bunker with a flared bunker to half windscreen height then bars to top of the windscreen.

Its a real doggy breakfast working them out over the years.
a6et
Thankyou a6et,

Yes this is typical of the NSWGR, all built to a standard design, but in service all became individuals (but retaining the general class characteristics).  Depots and crews modified their allocated locomotives to meet their particular needs, and even an officially approved modification had locally applied variations.  One can only accurately model a particular locomotive at a particular point in time by checking any photographic sources that give a good detail of the particular detail in question.  A general 3/4 view of a loco on a train lacks many details.  At least today the internet provides a good source of visual information as long as the actual date can be ascertained.

Happy prototyping,

John
  a6et Minister for Railways

John

The bunker issue with the 30tankers is quite wide and versions since they entered service along with mods over the years mainly as a result of where they were allocated and ran to.  By that consider that some depots had to have extended bunkers owing to the distance the loco's ran before they could get back to a depot for recoiling.

Initially they all had a short bunker that came approximately half way up the fixed window on both sides, The first lot of extensions were to approximately the to the top of the same window.  That bunker size was the most common later in steam days and through the 60's, and very much suitable for jobs like shunting in Sydney Yard, Alexandria yards, also running out to Richmond where they stayed for a week and were coaled at each Blacktown return. Liverpool - Campbeltown was the same.

At Enfield they supplied 30's for Richmond and Cambelltown, also a midnight horror service LE Enfield - Clyde, Last Pax to Carlingford, Pick up service back to Clyde, Down Pick up back to Carlo and first Pax back to Clyde then LE back to Enfield.

At Broadmeadow, they had more extended bunker 30Cl than non extended as the running to Toronto, generally taxed them for coal, running LE BMD - Ncle - Toronto (all stations) & ret, then LE back to Loco, they had little in reserve, thus the extended bunkers were needed. Likewise when working return services to Cessnock.  The Illawarra areas were the same as the tankers ran from Thirroul - Waterfall & return, and again was hard on the coal They also would work trains to PTK and return if a big bunker was on them they could do Coal Cliff then back to Thirroul for engine change.  Not forgetting the Moss Vale passenger from Wgn.

Many had the extensions that flared outwards on the 3 sides. but were solid, some had the 3 bar set ups, and still others had the 3 bars plus a large flat piece of steel welded onto the inside of the top bar.

I have photo's of 3042 with what appears to be a full outward tapered bunker, 3067 with no extension, 3076, bars, 3093 with all steel extended bunker flared top, 3096 with barred extension with solid plate above the bars. 3135 bars, 3138 bars. 3007 with short bunker but flared steel tops, 3025 the same, both Enfield engines working Cambeltown yo yos
Finally 3025 with short original steel bunker with a flared bunker to half windscreen height then bars to top of the windscreen.

Its a real doggy breakfast working them out over the years.
Thankyou a6et,

Yes this is typical of the NSWGR, all built to a standard design, but in service all became individuals (but retaining the general class characteristics).  Depots and crews modified their allocated locomotives to meet their particular needs, and even an officially approved modification had locally applied variations.  One can only accurately model a particular locomotive at a particular point in time by checking any photographic sources that give a good detail of the particular detail in question.  A general 3/4 view of a loco on a train lacks many details.  At least today the internet provides a good source of visual information as long as the actual date can be ascertained.

Happy prototyping,

John
c3526blue
John

What has to be considered is that many of the modifications were done for local conditions.  The photo link that was sent shows 3112 and it has what is basically 3 modifications and each very much typical of how things operated not just as the result of a directive from the Green house or even the old Room 24 where much design work was carried out.

Using  one loco number that I mentioned 3096 and this could be applied to 3112 as both have the same bunker arrangement, my allotment list book by Peter Neve is still packed as we are between houses. As I mentioned the range of operations was fairly tight in some districts, especially for a tank engine with limited water and coal supplies, more especially for the MV pax  and the working to Waterfall and return commuter shuttles, likewise the working to Cessnock as also mentioned.

Few engines ever whistled out of loco with a totally full coal load, as they were coaled on arrival in a depot, and did not get topped up on the way out, exceptions occurred such as at Eveliegh where a loader was located on the dives departure road, those engines on the WO list the fuelman would have, would get topped up, but not normally the Sydney Yard shunters that usually only went out for two shifts before returning to the depot.

As such say using 3096 being rostered to work to Cessnock from Newcastle and return, IIRC those trains were often 8 car cowboy sets. Ex loco the coal would be sitting just below the top of the bunker, it would have been mounded on top after the coal stage visit but coal was needed when waiting for its next roster which could be hours, meaning coal was used to keep the fire going and steam up.  Take water, LE to NCLE, top up water prior to departure from NCLE, water at Maitland and then to Cessnock, water again, check the coal as to how much was in the bunker.  Depart and run to NCLE but water again at Maitland. Check coal levels again, and if it looked down notify the SM or station attendant prior to departure, on arrival at NCLE take water and you may well have barely enough coal to run LE to BMD, at which a panic could be in the offings as other engines were in front on the arrival roads.

If the tanker had the original bunker then it would not have been wise to roster it on such a working had it had the short first extra plates put on, theoretically it should just be able to make it if the engine was in good order, most were but at BMD one never knew for certain.  The risk of running out of water was bad enough but to run out of coal was a step worse.  The DLE as a result would be informed that 3096 maybe a problem with coal useage and to take it to Cardiff to get a seal of stamped approval from workshops was a dumb idea as the DLE's had authority to make adjustments to cover such issues.  

Lets say that even though 96 had the bar extensions it needed more capacity, that mean the DLE could simply direct the boilermakers to weld new steel plates onto each of the three sides either on top of the bars or replace the bars with solid steel plates all round, the urgency of when its next rostered working would take place.

All your major depots worked under those tolerances so what took place really was sound and saved a lot of paperwork and other needless issues.
  NSWRcars Assistant Commissioner

Can anyone provide a list of the Austrains C30 locos and their variations? Unhelpfully, the Austrains web site (which was out of date, anyway) has been missing for weeks, and on top of that, these Railpage forums have been inaccessible due to bugs recently.

Apparently some of the locos on offer include:

3013, 3025, 3046, 3067, 3085, 3112, 3146. Also an SMR 15 class, I think.

A complete list showing whether lit or unlit, and bunker variation would be most helpful.



Thanks in anticipation!
  Phantom47 Locomotive Driver

Location: In The Shire
Can anyone provide a list of the Austrains C30 locos and their variations? Unhelpfully, the Austrains web site (which was out of date, anyway) has been missing for weeks, and on top of that, these Railpage forums have been inaccessible due to bugs recently.

Apparently some of the locos on offer include:

3013, 3025, 3046, 3067, 3085, 3112, 3146. Also an SMR 15 class, I think.

A complete list showing whether lit or unlit, and bunker variation would be most helpful.



Thanks in anticipation!
NSWRcars
The list I have from an early Austrains order form lists:
3024 Extended Steel Bunker
3025 Original
3034 Original
3042 Extended Steel Bunker
3046 Extended Steel Bunker
3048 Grated Bunker
3067 Grated Bunker
3085 Grated Bunker
3112 Grated Bunker
3130 Original
3136 Extended Steel Bunker
3141 Extended Steel Bunker
3013 As modified for SMR
#15 lettered and as built for SMR

Hope this helps. The actual deliveries may have differed though.

Regards.
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

Can anyone provide a list of the Austrains C30 locos and their variations? Unhelpfully, the Austrains web site (which was out of date, anyway) has been missing for weeks, and on top of that, these Railpage forums have been inaccessible due to bugs recently.

Apparently some of the locos on offer include:

3013, 3025, 3046, 3067, 3085, 3112, 3146. Also an SMR 15 class, I think.

A complete list showing whether lit or unlit, and bunker variation would be most helpful.



Thanks in anticipation!
The list I have from an early Austrains order form lists:
3024 Extended Steel Bunker
3025 Original
3034 Original
3042 Extended Steel Bunker
3046 Extended Steel Bunker
3048 Grated Bunker
3067 Grated Bunker
3085 Grated Bunker
3112 Grated Bunker
3130 Original
3136 Extended Steel Bunker
3141 Extended Steel Bunker
3013 As modified for SMR
#15 lettered and as built for SMR

Hope this helps. The actual deliveries may have differed though.

Regards.
Phantom47
The headlight versions were added to the Casula Hobbies website today and are now available to purchase.
  NSWRcars Assistant Commissioner

The list I have from an early Austrains order form lists:
3024 Extended Steel Bunker
3025 Original
3034 Original
3042 Extended Steel Bunker
3046 Extended Steel Bunker
3048 Grated Bunker
3067 Grated Bunker
3085 Grated Bunker
3112 Grated Bunker
3130 Original
3136 Extended Steel Bunker
3141 Extended Steel Bunker
3013 As modified for SMR
#15 lettered and as built for SMR

Hope this helps. The actual deliveries may have differed though.

Regards.
The headlight versions were added to the Casula Hobbies website today and are now available to purchase.
kingfisher
Thank you all for the replies. Casula’s shop now confirms availability of all locos from the pre-order list except SMR 15, and they list 3146 (no such loco) which I suspect is a typo for 3046.
  scotty85 Beginner

Location: Hornsby
I ordered two 30 class from austrains 3046 and 3112. They took money from my account for one. Has anyone yet recieved either of these 30 class direct from austrains?
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
I ordered two 30 class from austrains 3046 and 3112. They took money from my account for one. Has anyone yet recieved either of these 30 class direct from austrains?
scotty85
Scotty
A nice polite inquiry has always generated a quick response for me.
In fact the last reply I got about 6 weeks ago included
" Evie and I are currently at sea rounding the cape of Good Hope on Queen Elizabeth. We should be home in May. The 30 Class shipment has left China and will be waiting for us on our return"

At the same time I heard some complaining that emails went unanswered ??

I really would be surprised if your courteous inquiry went unanswered, due to my experiences
Cheers
Rod
  scotty85 Beginner

Location: Hornsby
I ordered two 30 class from austrains 3046 and 3112. They took money from my account for one. Has anyone yet recieved either of these 30 class direct from austrains?
Scotty
A nice polite inquiry has always generated a quick response for me.
In fact the last reply I got about 6 weeks ago included
" Evie and I are currently at sea rounding the cape of Good Hope on Queen Elizabeth. We should be home in May. The 30 Class shipment has left China and will be waiting for us on our return"

At the same time I heard some complaining that emails went unanswered ??

I really would be surprised if your courteous inquiry went unanswered, due to my experiences
Cheers
Rod
comtrain
Thanks Rod. I have sent Austrains an email kindly asking how my pre-order is going last Friday. Hopefully hear something soon. Ive heard from alot of people that Casula Hobbies has the models now in stock so hopefully the pre-orders are coming soon.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
I ordered two 30 class from austrains 3046 and 3112. They took money from my account for one. Has anyone yet recieved either of these 30 class direct from austrains?
Scotty
A nice polite inquiry has always generated a quick response for me.
In fact the last reply I got about 6 weeks ago included
" Evie and I are currently at sea rounding the cape of Good Hope on Queen Elizabeth. We should be home in May. The 30 Class shipment has left China and will be waiting for us on our return"

At the same time I heard some complaining that emails went unanswered ??

I really would be surprised if your courteous inquiry went unanswered, due to my experiences
Cheers
Rod
Thanks Rod. I have sent Austrains an email kindly asking how my pre-order is going last Friday. Hopefully hear something soon. Ive heard from alot of people that Casula Hobbies has the models now in stock so hopefully the pre-orders are coming soon.
scotty85

Yeah I think the problem is that they are semi retired working Exhibitions and taking long way home after them. I bet he is out bush and heading home Ha Ha But he will be at next weeks Exhibition, so should be home now,
  qldchook Locomotive Driver

Is anyone who pre ordered a 30 class direct from Austrains still waiting for it?
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Undelivered Austrains C30 Tank Engines

I note that there are still some people querying the non-delivery of their pre-ordered C30 Tank Engines from Austrains.

When (politely) asked about this matter at Rosehill (EMRE) John Eassie advised that there appeared to have been a paperwork glitch with some pages of the order deliverys going missing.  My delivery of 3112 was caught up in this issue and a respectful email on Monday 11/06/18 elicited a quick response and my model turned up at the end of the week.

It is suggested that anyone who is still waiting for a C30 delivery to contact Austrains directly by email/fax/snail mail (no phone number listed) as soon as possible to explain the non-delivery of their models.  JE has a full list of the pre-orders and he will be able to check your order details.

This should get some action underway.

Happy tanking,

John
  Captainchoochoo61 Locomotive Fireman

TWO COMMENTS

1 If you need to spek to the organ grinder it is no good speaking to the monkey.

2 Simple and polite requests are more likely to achieve a good result then a loose wrongly delivered response/ request.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Austrains C30 Models

Clarification of Availability/Headlights/Lining

Despite a lack of updates from Austrains the following information is available.  Thanks to Casula Hobbies and Australian Modeller for information from their websites.  AM have photos showing details of all available models (except SMR15).

Listing as per Austrains Order Form
  • 3024  EB  H/L  R/L
  • 3025  OB  No   R/L
  • 3034  OB  H/L  R/L
  • 3042  EB  H/L  R/L
  • 3046  EB  No   R/L
  • 3048  GB  No   R/L
  • 3067  GB  No   R/L
  • 3085  GB  No   R/L
  • 3112  GB  H/L  RS/L    (Not on Casula Website)
  • 3130  OB  No   R/L
  • 3136  EB  H/L  R/L
  • 3141  GB  No   R/L
  • 3013  OB  No   R/L      (Not as per Hebburn Colliery usage)
  • SMR15 - Not Available - No Details

Key to Details:-
     OB - Original Bunker
     GB - Grated Bunker
     EB - Extended Bunker
     No - No Headlight/Lights
     H/L - Headlight Fitted
     R/L - Red Lining
     RS/L - Red and Straw Lining, also Brass painted details.

Happy thirtying,

John
  NSWRcars Assistant Commissioner

Austrains Order Forms and Casula online shop lists 3141 with Extended Bunker, but the models I saw at Rosehill and the photo on Australian Modeller have a Grated Bunker. Check photos on Australian Modeller carefully, the bunker listed for 3034 doesn't match the photo, nor does the headlight. I think 3034 boxes are incorrectly labelled.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Austrains C30 Models

Clarification of Availability/Headlights/Lining

Despite a lack of updates from Austrains the following information is available.  Thanks to Casula Hobbies and Australian Modeller for information from their websites.  AM have photos showing details of all available models (except SMR15).

Listing as per Austrains Order Form
  • 3024  EB  H/L  R/L
  • 3025  OB  No   R/L
  • 3034  OB  H/L  R/L
  • 3042  EB  H/L  R/L
  • 3046  EB  No   R/L
  • 3048  GB  No   R/L
  • 3067  GB  No   R/L
  • 3085  GB  No   R/L
  • 3112  GB  H/L  RS/L    (Not on Casula Website)
  • 3130  OB  No   R/L
  • 3136  EB  H/L  R/L
  • 3141  EB  No   R/L
  • 3013  OB  No   R/L      (Not as per Hebburn Colliery usage)
  • SMR15 - Not Available - No Details

Key to Details:-
     OB - Original Bunker
     GB - Grated Bunker
     EB - Extended Bunker
     No - No Headlight/Lights
     H/L - Headlight Fitted
     R/L - Red Lining
     RS/L - Red and Straw Lining, also Brass painted details.

Happy thirtying,

John
Austrains Order Forms and Casula online shop lists 3141 with Extended Bunker, but the models I saw at Rosehill and the photo on Australian Modeller have a Grated Bunker. Check photos on Australian Modeller carefully, the bunker listed for 3034 doesn't match the photo, nor does the headlight. I think 3034 boxes are incorrectly labelled.
NSWRcars
Thanks for that, well picked up.  Would not be the first time that the pre-order list does not relate well to the actual delivered models.

3141 details corrected to match photo on AM.  AM description of 3034 does not match their photo, no change to listing necessary.

I will wait a few days for any other errors to be picked up and review my listing.

Happy checking,

John
  glhiley Beginner

I have just brought Austrains 30 tank with out lights, i have 2 others with lights.
I am using ESU micro decoder non sound and have put the same in all locos.
My problem is the 30 tank w/Out lights over the week end has been getting slower and slower. Tried factory reset no change.
Has enough trouble pulling itself, put a set of FO's on forgetit, however it runs slightly better in reverse
My other 2 are sports cars compared to this one.
Has any one else had this issue??
regards
Greg Hiley
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
I have just brought Austrains 30 tank with out lights, i have 2 others with lights.
I am using ESU micro decoder non sound and have put the same in all locos.
My problem is the 30 tank w/Out lights over the week end has been getting slower and slower. Tried factory reset no change.
Has enough trouble pulling itself, put a set of FO's on forgetit, however it runs slightly better in reverse
My other 2 are sports cars compared to this one.
Has any one else had this issue??
regards
Greg Hiley
glhiley
glhiley,

Have you tried running it on DC without the decoder fitted?  This will tell you whether it is a loco/motor problem or a DCC problem.  It is not unknown for Chinese products to have serious motor problems.  Quality control is a foreign language to most  Chinese factories.

Happy detecting,

John
  glhiley Beginner

John and All
A quick update, I did run on dc, swapped dcc decoders nodifference.
Took locomotive back to Australian modeler this morning, we had to go through 4 locomotives to find one that worked.
one was just plain dead,one ran great in reverse but kangarooed going forward,the third one again great going in reverse but  going forward crawled so slow on full throttle not worth the effert.
The 4th one great.
BTW if you have a faulty one get in touch with John Essie and he will replace.
Regards
Greg Hiley
  glhiley Beginner

Has any one has a slow issue running forwards with the Austrains 30 tank.
Have had both of mine for about 6 weeks now one of them is running at half the speed going forwards than when going reverse.
I have checked in DC mode and DCC mode same issue.
regards
Greg Hiley

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