El Zorro demise?

 
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
So who will be operating the trains out to Oaklands from now on???
Steve82
depending on who you talk to either PN, SSR, or yet to be determined. The latter is possibly the best option until we see who actually starts doing it.

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  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
rumour is PN have most of the work and will be announced shortly. I think the contracts are not completely finalised
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Looks like the VL has picked up the SG loco's from Oaklands?

http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/9014758480

Regards
Brian
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Looks like the VL has picked up the SG loco's from Oaklands?

http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/9014758480

Regards
Brian
bevans
Brian,

My understanding was that a VL and G Class rescued the two EL Class from Oaklands, crewed by and running under SSR accreditation on behalf of CFCL Australia. I recall reading that 8026 (Greentrains) and the hoppers (AWB) have remained at Oaklands, for now.
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller

Brian,

My understanding was that a VL and G Class rescued the two EL Class from Oaklands, crewed by and running under SSR accreditation on behalf of CFCL Australia. I recall reading that 8026 (Greentrains) and the hoppers (AWB) have remained at Oaklands, for now.
Raichase

From what I have read the movement was on behalf of Cargill. The 80 class is not leased by Cargill.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
At least the locomotives are being returned to SRHC in good condition.....Rolling Eyes

http://srhcblog.blogspot.com.au/    Shocked
  bayside1 Station Master

If Aurizon was interested in the some of the grain haulage or other services, what locomotives and rolling stock would they use.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
If Aurizon was interested in the some of the grain haulage or other services, what locomotives and rolling stock would they use.
bayside1
They appear to have a lot of surplus hoppers stored in Goulburn, whilst they have a fleet of CLF/CLP/421 class in Ettamogah (sp?) that could be overhauled...
  Jajb94 Deputy Commissioner

Location: In a BAM
I am led to believe that Aurizon has the southern wheat trains parked up at Goulburn whilst there is not enough grain to haul. They are not surplus to the requirements, but just not needed for a few weeks.
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

If Aurizon was interested in the some of the grain haulage or other services, what locomotives and rolling stock would they use.
bayside1
They have several hundred grain wagons stored in W.A. since CBH/ Watco took over the W.A. grain haulage, similar to those already in use in NSW
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I am led to believe that Aurizon has the southern wheat trains parked up at Goulburn whilst there is not enough grain to haul. They are not surplus to the requirements, but just not needed for a few weeks.
Jajb94
Sorry, I mean "in addition to" their regular Glencore rake. As in, they have one rake of wagons with locos parked at the workshops, and a whole road and a half worth in the yard proper.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
T386 and S302 into Dynon from Benalla I believe.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aQmN2hbpmo

Image from Bunbury Street

http://www.flickr.com/photos/Railpage/9028004775/

Regards
Brian
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
These locomotives have been working plant trains north of Benalla this week.  Seen on the down side of Benalla yesterday on a rather long ballast train.

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=666926516654419
  Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner

Location: Shh, I'm hiding
The Aurizon grain train is comprised of 40 to 43 AGWF and AHGXs. It is still running though not as frequently as it was due to a short term lack of demand. The other 30something AGWFs were on hire to El Zorro, but were returned last year.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
G532 and G521 (BG) went to Tottenham Yard this afternoon behind BL32. Can we take it as read PN have the grain contract for Victoria?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiLiRSsyCcU

and

http://www.flickr.com/photos/Railpage/9037776129/

It is understood the locomotives will pick up some wagons there and head to Sea Lake as train train 9129 tonight.

Regards
Brian
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
So this train is going via Ballan or Geelong?
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Those locomotives just came back into Melbourne light engine

http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/9041065532
  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
the mineral sands went through Gheringhap last night headed where?

http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/gheringhaploop/photo/9042399762

  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
G532 and G521 (BG) went to Tottenham Yard this afternoon behind BL32. Can we take it as read PN have the grain contract for Victoria?

Brian
bevans
The rake was shunted at Tottenham, reports of 13 wagons were shunted out with red cards.....
  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
so who will need to fix these wagons?  are they still owned by awb?

pn could have some spare wagons on bg or have they been transferred to sg now?
  Spion_Kop Station Master

Thank you Stuart and PN for coming to the rescue of the abandoned El Zorro drivers. This solves the problem of the driver shortage where PN can easily take on qualified drivers rather than advertise for trainees. Very nice gesture from a competitor rail operator.
ChrisSun
Why should P.N, QUBE or any other rail company take on the El Zorro crews when there are young people trying to get in to the rail industry. El Zorro drivers were told for the last several months that company was going down the tube, yet they stayed on to be loyal to Ray Evans. These crews showed loyalty to El Zorro and what did they get in return. They got sweet F@#$ all. Well in my eyes they deserve what they get. They should apply for jobs with rail companies through the normal channels just like anyone else has to. Fair is fair in love and war and getting a rail job in the rail industry.
Yes I am pissed of because I have applied through the normal channels and now I am going to get pushed down the list so these crews from El Zorro can get a job.
  C4 Junior Train Controller

I and I'm sure many others think that PN have done a good thing by employing the redundant El Zorro drivers. I'm sure that many families have been saved from financial uncertainty too. When you applied for those PN jobs PN did not have the ElZ work ergo you may find that you have not been pushed so far down the list you merely haven't jumped in over already qualified competent crew that have done nothing wrong other then work for a company that went belly up.

Keep in mind that if you do become a driver, and I wish you well, that someday you might find yourself in the same position as the former el Zorro crew and you may well depend on another company doing the exact same thing.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
It is obvious there were joint benefits to PN having hired those drivers.  The El Zorro drivers know the contract and were I assume already in place at the locations.  PN do not need to retrain anyone on the route for example and could commence operations immediately.  If PN were to employ trainee drivers qualified drivers would still have been required.
  mudgeeman Locomotive Fireman

Why should P.N, QUBE or any other rail company take on the El Zorro crews when there are young people trying to get in to the rail industry. El Zorro drivers were told for the last several months that company was going down the tube, yet they stayed on to be loyal to Ray Evans. These crews showed loyalty to El Zorro and what did they get in return. They got sweet F@#$ all. Well in my eyes they deserve what they get. They should apply for jobs with rail companies through the normal channels just like anyone else has to. Fair is fair in love and war and getting a rail job in the rail industry.
Yes I am pissed of because I have applied through the normal channels and now I am going to get pushed down the list so these crews from El Zorro can get a job.
Spion_Kop
Spion_Kop, you sound like nothing but a gunzel pratt. I was one of those impacted in N.S.W., but luckily have an active business to keep me going. I am an employer in my field at the moment, the rail industry, and whilst fresh blood is required always, a fully qualified driver with potentially decades of experience (personally I've been on the footplate since 1985) is going to give better and immediate value for money as compared to yourself. If you're stupid enough to give vent to your feelings as above, I would confine it to Facebook lest one of those that "deserve what they get" decide to offer an opinion back......with a fist most likely. You my friend are an idiot, and I hope you NEVER are fortunate enough to join the enginemans ranks. Foam on.......
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Why should P.N, QUBE or any other rail company take on the El Zorro crews when there are young people trying to get in to the rail industry. El Zorro drivers were told for the last several months that company was going down the tube, yet they stayed on to be loyal to Ray Evans. These crews showed loyalty to El Zorro and what did they get in return. They got sweet F@#$ all. Well in my eyes they deserve what they get. They should apply for jobs with rail companies through the normal channels just like anyone else has to. Fair is fair in love and war and getting a rail job in the rail industry.
Yes I am pissed of because I have applied through the normal channels and now I am going to get pushed down the list so these crews from El Zorro can get a job.
Spion_Kop
I'm sure many of the crews involved would be really happy to discuss your opinion in person. Perhaps they'd like to show you pictures of the children that their job helps to feed. I'm sure that their family will understand why they have to be evicted because you're upset that you can't drive the big trains.

You didn't stop for a minute to consider that if they "applied for jobs through normal channels" based on merit and attitude that they would STILL get the job over you. They're not being taken on as charity cases - they have industry experience, they have experience working on various routes and locomotives, which is important to a company taking on a new contract on a new line. They've worked with the wagons used by AWB, something which many PN crews might not. They've showed loyalty to their employer, sticking it out and doing the right thing rather than jumping ship and heading for greener pastures.

Your post is a disgrace, both as a candidate for employment and as a human being.

Don't worry, as your own rationale dictates, "fair is fair in getting a job in the rail industry" - dedicated, loyal and experienced workers beats out self entitlement every time. But you said it yourself, fair is fair. Enjoy the waiting list. I think Woolies is hiring?

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