Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Can anybody please tell me where these strange looking CFCLA loco's came from and what specs they are thanks? regards JB.

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  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
The VicSig website will help you there JB;
http://www.vicsig.net/
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

The VicSig website will help you there JB;
http://www.vicsig.net/
alcoworldseries
Basically built from some imported SD40s. It is obviously a lot of the mechanical parts were used but does anybody know if a new frame was utilised? There was a picture on this site of bits of SD40 car bodies from the donor locomotives.
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
To the best of my knowledge new frames
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Thanks all, 12 built in 2006, not the prettiest thing about but still packs an EMD 16-645 for 3300hp
  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere
Not to dissimilar to the VR C class.

http://www.railpage.org/f-t11322891-0-asc-s0.htm
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Vastly different to C class, closer to an X with a C class engine fitted, cooling modules and dynamic brake nearly identical to the XR's (X class rebuilds) C class have 3 radiator fans, X/XR/VL all only have 2 radiator fans, the control system far advanced on the original C class package, VL's at least 10 tonnes lighter than a C class.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
There was a few VL's hiding on the Darwin line, Hired by originally by Freightlink for their Ore trains up there.
They have since been 'displaced' as Freightlink's successor, GWA have purchased their new GWU and GWA class locos.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Didn't the mob that built these (Avteq?) get sued by Pacific National because some aspects of its design were pretty much identical to the XR class which PN own the copyright to?
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Interesting legal question vlocity, from my understanding those that designed the XR's had been "pensioned off" by Freight Australia and where in fact working as private companies "contracting" to FAL in this manner they registered the design to their own company and thus onto Avteq.
PN are never wrong..............are they.....
The same question could also be asked regarding the new BRM's
  TheLoneGunMan Assistant Commissioner

Location: At NF88.7 taking pictures
Interesting legal question vlocity, from my understanding those that designed the XR's had been "pensioned off" by Freight Australia and where in fact working as private companies "contracting" to FAL in this manner they registered the design to their own company and thus onto Avteq.
PN are never wrong..............are they.....
The same question could also be asked regarding the new BRM's
alcoworldseries
Hi All,

I don't think so some how because there were major talks between SSR & PN about the body that the BRM's were going to receive & SSR/CRL got a green light from PN to build them. That's the difference between SSR/CRL & Avteq!

TLGM
  DounutCereal Chief Train Controller

Location: Who knows.
Hi All,

I don't think so some how because there were major talks between SSR & PN about the body that the BRM's were going to receive & SSR/CRL got a green light from PN to build them. That's the difference between SSR/CRL & Avteq!

TLGM
TheLoneGunMan
I'm pretty sure that Bendigo Rollingstock Manufacturing purchased a build license from PN to base the BRM design on. The design is owned by PN but SSR tweaked it after they were given the green light to use the XR as a base design.

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