Geoff Shaw

 
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
How does the Prime Minister's handbag do the same thing yet no charges were even considered, much less brought?

Oh yes, the Prime Minister bought her way out of it, now I remember.....
TheBlacksmith

did guillard to the same thing?

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  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
How does the Prime Minister's handbag do the same thing yet no charges were even considered, much less brought?
TheBlacksmith
When it was discovered she was allowed to pay back the calculated cost in exactly the same manner that all the MP's recently discovered with private travel at taxpayer expense were allowed to (for example, WA Liberal MP Don Randall inspecting his investment property in Cairns at taxpayer expense).

Our current Prime Minister has also made some questionable decisions when he was Opposition Leader in relation to the use of travel allowance to attend things like sporting matches and charity events but it was decided recently that these were legitimate expenses of office.

It does make you wonder why they decided to prosecute Peter Slipper over a few Cabcharges and what the actual criteria for 'misuse' is?  Do they have to prove that there was some kind of intent to defraud?  Geoff Shaw's use of his parliamentary work vehicle, apparently seconded to his private hardware business over many months of use, was seemingly all too hard for the DPP to pursue.  So what do you have to do to be convicted of fraud if you are a Member of Parliament?
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
So what do you have to do to be convicted of fraud if you are a Member of Parliament?
don_dunstan

My guess would be not knowing the right people and not holding the government to ransom
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
So what do you have to do to be convicted of fraud if you are a Member of Parliament?
don_dunstan
I reckon Craig Thomson is about to find out....
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I reckon Craig Thomson is about to find out....
TheBlacksmith
Correct! What he actually did differently was instead of submitting receipts for 'non work related wedding travel' Thomson submitted receipts for 'prostitutional services rendered over four hours' crossed out with 'entertainment' scrawled over the top. His fraud was in the deliberate act of ammending and/or concealing of expenses, instead claiming for something less 'nefarious'. That is to say that his fraud relates not to the 'claiming' as such, but the altering and concealment of the real expense behind the claim.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
On reading a bit more about the case today it's also apparent that the successful prosecution of Geoff Shaw was hampered by the wording of the legislation governing the behaviour of our Victorian MP's.  The precise wording (according to The Age) states that the parliamentary vehicles 'should not' be used for commercial purposes and the DPP was subsequently worried that they would be unable to mount a successful prosecution on the basis of that apparent weakness in the law.

So really it's an abject failure of the parliament to govern itself and the conduct of its own MP's.

Geoff Shaw himself has continued to ham it up blaming the magistrate hearing his case for not dismissing it sooner and also calling the Parliamentary Privileges Committee a series of unflattering names for referring the situation to police to begin with.  He's not responsible for this situation at all (according to him), it's everyone else's fault.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
He's not responsible for this situation at all (according to him), it's everyone else's fault.
don_dunstan
Sadly, a common situation these days.

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