Trainorama (BOBS HOBBIES) update

 
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

All of the noses on our EMD's were imported from Lagrange and by that time they would have F7/9, or E8/9 noses which were all the same. I have no idea what you mean by the front slope of the nose being laid back more?

What actually came from the USA were sets of pressed steel parts which formed the shape of the cab from just below the headlight up to the top of the cab roof and back to the cab doors. These were supplied in symmetrical halves joined in the centre. A construction jig was used both in the USA and in Granville, so the complete nose was put together separate from the locomotive frame.

The Clyde cabs were three inches (75 mm) narrower than the cabs built in the USA, So Clyde cut 1-1/2 inches from the inner edge of each side of the steel pressings. ( I have a copy of a note from Clyde Engineering's files stating that this trimming was to be performed.) The locomotives were six inches lower in height, but I'm not sure where that difference was distributed between the bogie centre height, the height of the frame and the height of the  nose itself. But I think the completed noses were a couple of inches lower than those in the USA .

The reduction in width of the nose is most easily seen in the width of the pillar between the two angled cab windows, which is 75mm narrower than that on USA locomotives.

The difference in S317, which should be clear when it is placed next to another S, B or GM, is that the front cab windows are angled backward at the top more than on a standard locomotive. This change occurred when the cab was reconstructed after a collision at Barnawartha (just west of Wodonga).

Peter
M636C
I know about the reduction in size to fit our loading gauge but the example repaired is not standard and you could hardly expect dies to be cut for a limited demand model.

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  M636C Minister for Railways

I know about the reduction in size to fit our loading gauge but the example repaired is not standard and you could hardly expect dies to be cut for a limited demand model.


In fact I posted that S317 should not be expected to be modelled on 7 February, back two pages or so.


I mentioned it because you asked about the window angle being different


While the parts used in the Clyde nose came from the USA you can't use a USA cab on an Australian model..


Peter
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Could I respectfully suggest.

If you wouldn't notice the difference in loco length of a 1st and 2nd series Y class scaled down to HO for the sake of SDS possibly running them with the new Y they're doing, then I ask who would give two rats about a slight nose angle that's only just notable when pointed out on the real S class??

When this is scaled down onto a HO scale model...Shocked - Seriously, splitting hairs me thinks??

Regards

ps. This means to say, that prospectively if Traino was to do S317 id buy it.

As far as dual marker S class are concerned, S301 and 317 are the closest match to each other. That is if you can ignore the slightly more angled front of the S317 rebuild.
Whats not, is the larger separation of the marker lights found on S307 and 313 making these locos different on a dual marker model.....

Just my views
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

GM22 & GM27 in SSR livery now available
https://www.bobshobbies.com.au/LATEST-RELEASE-TrainOrama-GM-Class-Loco-HO-Scale-SSR-GM22
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

Disappointing postage costs, but what choice do you have?

I wouldn't be keen on driving out to 7Hills even if I lived in Sydney - and that's assuming they have a storefront these days
  a6et Minister for Railways

Disappointing postage costs, but what choice do you have?

I wouldn't be keen on driving out to 7Hills even if I lived in Sydney - and that's assuming they have a storefront these days
gw0071
How much is the Postage cost?

The new 7 Hills location is their shop front. There are bus stops on both sides of the road outside the factory complex where their shop is.  Possibly a 15 minute walk from 7 Hills station.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Disappointing postage costs, but what choice do you have?



I did a dummy checkout and it said 1 loco would cost $20.20.  I went to AustPost and did the calc and it said $19.85. I'm sure the 35c difference can be accommodated & justified in packaging, bubble wrap, and petrol/time for Bob's staff to complete the posting activities.
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

Thanks guys - great work!
  SAR_enthusiast Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Hi,

Does anyone know where I could buy a Trainorama GM44 in Australian National livery with the grey roof?

They appear to be sold out where ever I look

Thanks
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
44 & 930 rerun details released. Details on the website.
  brissim Chief Train Controller

And somewhat predicatively it hasn't taken Auscision very long to respond - in sorts.

Tony
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
So no more broken muff gear clicking then?

No more ebay muff gear replacement sellers

No 47 or 49 class re-runs either?

Regards,

Catchpoint
  a6et Minister for Railways

So no more broken muff gear clicking then?

No more ebay muff gear replacement sellers

No 47 or 49 class re-runs either?

Regards,

Catchpoint
catchpoint
Big negative call Catchpoint, besides the ebay gear replacements have been on there for a long time ask the U.S modellers who had the same issue, and those here in Oz who kept purchasing the replacements from TOR for a long time to fix their U.S models.

No 47 or 49 rerun's?  How do you know that is the case, pretty sure that TOR has them in the next run as well.
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

Apart from the clicking gear issue and all my first run 44's are still OK, I can't see what people have against the TOR 44's.
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
No 47 or 49 rerun's?  How do you know that is the case, pretty sure that TOR has them in the next run as well.
a6et

I don't, its pure speculation on my part....that's the beauty of the internets

I would like to obtain additional 47 / 49 class locos, sure but will they be done by ToR now?

Although I do recall sometime in the past where Auscision indicated that they would / would like to produce an HO scale model (or O scale) of all the diesel locos that have worn the SSR livery as SSR like to provide them as promotional gifts to customers.

ToR announce 44 class re-run / Auscision (imply) announce 44 class - gazump

ToR announce 47/49 class re-run / ......

Regards,

Catchpoint
  a6et Minister for Railways

Apart from the clicking gear issue and all my first run 44's are still OK, I can't see what people have against the TOR 44's.
kingfisher
Interestingly, my one 44cl has never shown those signs. I have one fellow who has one that clicks when running #1 end but not when reversed, he's had it for years.

Its not just with the TOR models either, a modeller I know has it with Austrains models, a couple of Auscision ones as well.  Some others have purchased the replacement ones for holiday purposes, that is just in case it happens to their models.
  a6et Minister for Railways

No 47 or 49 rerun's?  How do you know that is the case, pretty sure that TOR has them in the next run as well.

I don't, its pure speculation on my part....that's the beauty of the internets

I would like to obtain additional 47 / 49 class locos, sure but will they be done by ToR now?

Although I do recall sometime in the past where Auscision indicated that they would / would like to produce an HO scale model (or O scale) of all the diesel locos that have worn the SSR livery as SSR like to provide them as promotional gifts to customers.

ToR announce 44 class re-run / Auscision (imply) announce 44 class - gazump

ToR announce 47/49 class re-run / ......

Regards,

Catchpoint
catchpoint
IIRC, a news item was put into the AMRM regarding the rerun models that TOR were to do. It included all the previously run diesels, this was early this year, consideration was also to be given in a rerun of the 32cl.

I do notice in the advertisement this time round that there are a batch of 44's that are advertised with single marker lights, which represent them as delivered, they being 4401 and 03, there are also a couple of Mk2 types as well. This will be interesting as to how far they will retro fit them as when early ones were delivered 01-10, they did not have wind deflectors on the staff exchange boxes, no rear vision mirrors, single 5 chime air horns on #1 end, and a bit later a twin horn on #2 end.  The MK2's came out with primarily a change in air horns, the single ones lights, rear vision mirrors, wind deflectors at the front of the staff exchanger.

Also at one exh a while back I asked Bob Cooke about the SSR livery and he said they had agreement with SSR to use their colours on models.
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

OK, I give up - anybody care to post a link to this re-run update?
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

OK, I give up - anybody care to post a link to this re-run update?
gw0071
Order form is on the Trainorama Facebook page.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Or for those that do not like or use farcebook try

https://mailchi.mp/d4cdbeeb25ec/trainorama-44-class-re-run-pre-order?fbclid=IwAR2kCTxxMxDMTXNwRRHQqFsFxa81fbAqbkp5I6jmnT1Z-TD-2_T8xVhA3Rw

A generous pre-delivery discount methinks!


Happy alcoing,

John

PS; Sorry, when I hit submit Railpage corrupts the link.  Hopefully this one works ………….
  Moses Wong Station Staff

So no more broken muff gear clicking then?

No more ebay muff gear replacement sellers

No 47 or 49 class re-runs either?

Regards,

Catchpoint
catchpoint
Ha, ha that's funny.

With early Austrains stuff also cracking they'll be selling gears forever.

Cheers
MJW
  Flatop Deputy Commissioner

Location: Some where in a Cab
No 47 or 49 rerun's?  How do you know that is the case, pretty sure that TOR has them in the next run as well.

I don't, its pure speculation on my part....that's the beauty of the internets

I would like to obtain additional 47 / 49 class locos, sure but will they be done by ToR now?

Although I do recall sometime in the past where Auscision indicated that they would / would like to produce an HO scale model (or O scale) of all the diesel locos that have worn the SSR livery as SSR like to provide them as promotional gifts to customers.

ToR announce 44 class re-run / Auscision (imply) announce 44 class - gazump

ToR announce 47/49 class re-run / ......

Regards,

Catchpoint





47 and 49 class will eventually be rerun . like anything be patient.
catchpoint
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner
  a6et Minister for Railways
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

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