Griffin Coal Exports

 
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
the email below was sent to griffincoal questioning their approach to transport of their coal to port. the email was sent to r.scott@griffincoal.com.au


i read with some interest on Railpage http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1888306.htm#1888306 of your plans to export coal. the article on the railway website suggests you are intending on moving vast amounts of coal to port by way of road transport. as you would be aware road transport using heavy vehicles for the movement of coal is not good for the environment.

i notice there is no mention of your method of transport on your website or even at http://www.griffincoal.com.au/environmentresponsibility.html

Would you please advise if you are intending using the more environmentally friendly rail options or is the article on Railpage referenced above is actually correct.

--James


awaiting a reply. feel free to also send an email to the above address

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  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Good on you.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
the response

David Trench

Jan 23 at 3:01 PM

Dear James
Thank you for your email and interest.

We do not offer comment against blog pages and in general do not speculate over suggestions from the open web. Our own web page is relatively generic and only provides a high level insight in to our operations.

With this in consideration it is important to note that we are investigating options for improved production and improved access to our markets, as such our first option is to the lowest cost most affordable solution, you would be correct in thinking this be a rail solution. Supporting this mode of thinking is also the most environmental reduced footprint as practical.

We currently exit site by road and rail, albeit road is a small portion, if we do utilise road as an option it would only be for short tasks with smaller payloads.

At the forefront of our business thinking is to achieve the most minimal impact on both resources and environment, and to that outcome we will ensure we achieve the most practical solution in consideration of all parameters.


With Warmest Regards,
David L. Trench
Executive General Manager
Project Development & Corporate Relations

Lanco Resources Australia/Griffin Coal
1st Floor, 677 Murray Street, West Perth, Western Australia 6005
PO Box 568, West Perth Western Australia 6872
T +61 8 6188 2277 F +61 8 6188 2201 M +61 417 900 156 M +61 499 991 488
E [color=purple][color=blue]d.trench@griffincoal.com.au
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  Bahnfrend Station Master

Location: Perth, WA
I think that answer means "we're intending to use rail".
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I think that answer means "we're intending to use rail".
Bahnfrend


this is something we should all closely monitor over the next period confirming what we have been told is fact and not spin from this company.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
this is something we should all closely monitor over the next period confirming what we have been told is fact and not spin from this company.
JimYarin

I found it difficult to read which is a warning sign for me.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
his response is confusing like a commitment without actually making a commitment.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
his response is confusing like a commitment without actually making a commitment.
JimYarin

That way when trucks start rolling its too late for people to be outraged.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
In this thread here there is talk of a new container handling crane being built at Bunbury Port. I have not noted it, but will keep an eye out for it, as there is something I suspect was it, that I saw.

http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11376197.htm

No sight of trains yet however.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
some good positive news out of griffin coal today. i received the following email a short time ago.


Hi Jim

We restart rail operations to Kwinana next week and at this stage we are planning to commence transporting to Bunbury around October, the target is rail first, however will qualify this getting Rolling Stock is not easy!!

With Warmest Regards,
David L. Trench
Executive General Manager
Project Development & Corporate Relations
  Bahnfrend Station Master

Location: Perth, WA
Yes, that's the answer I was expecting.

Last time I took a passenger train through Avon Yard (just before Christmas), there were lots of empty ex-WAGR grain wagons there waiting for something to do. Maybe someone should let Mr Trench in on the secret.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Yes, that's the answer I was expecting.

Last time I took a passenger train through Avon Yard just before Christmas, there were lots of empty ex-WAGR grain wagons there waiting for something to do. Maybe someone should let Mr Trench in on the secret.
Bahnfrend


who now owns these wagons?
  JNSymes Junior Train Controller

^^^^aurizon?? Like the rakes at Forrestfield
  darsamalx Locomotive Fireman

There's still the coal wagons for the Kwinana export trains. The Bunbury trains will be containerised according to various sources so would require flats. Is this what is being referred to? Don't expect QUBE to be running them as they near enough walked away from running their own trains in WA.
  waynes Junior Train Controller

Location: Victoria
Who is likely to run the trains?  Can you find this out Jim?

From the email post it looks like they are ordering wagons?
  waynes Junior Train Controller

Location: Victoria
It was actually good of Griffin Coal to provide you with the details Jim. I wish them all the very best in their venture and I hope they will continue to update you on developments.

Let's hope they are successful and rail works for them.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Yes great news
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Yes great news
Trainplanner


i am in contact with david and will be sure to post more when information becomes available.
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
On my recall of Griffin company is that they have given invaluable support to Hotham Valley Railway since its early steam operations commenced c 40 years ago
motto :HVTRT powered by Griffin Coal
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

From the ABC News website 26/6/2014

"The WA Environment Minister has given the green light for a $500 million coal export facility at Bunbury Port.

Lanco Resources wants to export up to 12 million tonnes of coal each year from Griffin Coal's Collie Basin operations.

The facility will require dredging up to 1.9 million cubic metres at the port and blasting 20,000 cubic metres of rock.

Environment Minister Albert Jacob approved Lanco's proposal on a number of conditions, including a requirement to monitor dolphin populations and not conduct blasting activities during dolphin calving periods from October to May each year.

Lanco's executive general manager David Trench says the company is happy to comply with all environmental conditions.

"We helped author some of those conditions on the basis that's the way we saw it needed to be done, so it was in consultation with the [Environmental Protection Authority]," he said.

"We are avoiding blasting at all possible opportunities."

He says the coal will travel to the port from Collie via train.

"The rail infrastructure is existing state-based rail which is managed under licence by Brookfield Rail," he said.

"It's a 74 kilometre train line from our mine site to Ewington and Muja South down through the coastal strip down into Bunbury Port."

Mr Trench says Lanco plans to use up to 12 million tonnes of the facility's planned 15 million tonne capacity.

"It's under part of our remits from the Bunbury Port Authority and State Government to build a multi-user facility so that others may enjoy the capacity that we have," he said.

Construction is expected to start in mid-2015, with the first exports planned for 2017."
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
great they have choosen rail as david told me they would.

Ewington 1 & 2 Mines
A leading player in the commercial/industrial domestic coal market.
Location: 10 kilometres east of Collie, Western Australia
Mine size: 100 metres deep
Ewington 2 - Year mining commenced: 1996
Ewington 1 - Year mining commenced: 2009
Type of mining: Open cut
Type of coal: Primarily thermal coal however several coal faces are available at different depths providing flexibility for blended coal. This can be delivered direct to clients by rail or truck.
Primary use of Ewington Coal: Ewington specialises in thermal coal but also has products suited to metallurgical purposes. Ewington Coal is available for purchase.
Mine summary:
The Ewington mine lies within the Premier Coal Measures, 10 kilometres east of Collie and is gradually advancing down dip to the east.

There are three main seams (1.5 metres to three metres thick) and four associated seam splits of one metre or less being mined within a 25 metre vertical section. These seams are generally smaller than Muja but production levels are similar. Deepening of the mine is underway to develop a further three seams.

The seams are gently dipping but are subject to structural faults and the occasional "washout." Faults and washouts are managed within the normal course of operations. The mine is along a two kilometre strip parallel to the seam subcrop.

The same mining methods and equipment from Muja mine are used at Ewington, for reasons of flexibility in equipment deployment.

Click Here to find out about Griffin Coal’s Muja Mine.

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Click Here to find out about Griffin Coal’s mining processes.


the website says their coal is for the domestic marketplace.  why the transport to the port?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

A change in business direction perhaps? The news story does mention the coal is for export.

That 12-million tonne haul will need approximately four 75 wagon sets or five 60 wagon sets with ten to thirteen GT42CU-ACe equivalents.

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