SDS Models web update mk2

 
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Oh, look, Speed-E-Gas tankers!

Who would have ever thought?

Paul

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  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
3 out of the last four wagons is going to send me broke Very Happy
Cheers
Rod
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
I know the kit from Evolution models is being done re the flour wagons so will interesting if it comes out in similar timing. Though the kits will be cheaper so that will be an advantage for them.
  M636C Minister for Railways

I’ve had some off-line discussions with Ian Dunn on EHO vans and plywood sheathing. Ian was kind enough to forward me three photographs of EHO vans, two of which were thought to have plywood sheathing. The other was the reasonably well known 1950s photo of a tongue in groove sheathed modified canopy end car with small lookout and two buff lines.



Ian advanced the theory that only EHO vans fitted with sliding doors had the tumblehome removed. This doesn’t appear to be correct, since EDH 320, a Silver City Comet van converted from what John Beckhaus and I call a “cove roof” EHO, via being an ETP, definitely had flat lower plywood sides and hinged doors, clearly shown in a “Coaching Stock” photo by David Cooke.



Ian provided a photo of a full canopy end van apparently on No 50 South up Moss Vale train, photographed in Sydney Terminal with the 38 coupled to the van to return the set to Macdonaldtown. He suggested that this car had plywood sides with tumblehome. However, the shadow of the FS car falling on the end of the EHO suggested that the lower side was flat, since there was no narrowing of the “gap” between the shadow and the side towards the bottom, as would be expected with the shadow of a flat sided car imposed on tumblehome.



The other photo was of another “cove roof” van photographed in 1963 by Howard Armstrong in Bomaderry. This photo appeared in AMRM some fifty years ago, and I remembered it. The scan provided was pretty good, but not up to the standard we get with digital cameras today. This was believed to show a plywood sheathed van. However, as I enlarged it, I noticed something I had seen before. The car had a quite prominent waist rail. In smaller views the shadow cast by the rail appeared to be the shadow of the hand rails but when enlarged, the waist rail itself was quite clear.



So while the SDS model shows the more common form of Masonite sheathing, with vertical panels the height of the body, this car had twp horizontal Masonite panels on each section of body, with the waist rail covering the join. On close inspection, the dog and coffin doors appeared to be recessed, suggesting the sheathing was applied over the existing (tongue in groove?) panels. There were what appeared to be stress cracks in the panels from the corners of the upper coffin doors, which are much more likely with Masonite than with plywood.  While the definition broke down with really small detail, it appeared that there were screws with washers securing the Masonite in the middle of the panels (as mentioned by NSWR Cars earlier).



While the above details might not be of great interest to others, it is worth pointing out that these photos date from the 1950s and 1960s.  The two canopy end EHO designs are essentially steam era vehicles. Those vans with the high roof and sliding doors were converted to SKB vans in 1975 or so, removing the guard’s compartment to avoid the cost of upgrading it to current standards.



A few EHO vans survived 1975 with the “double door” arrangement, where the original guard’s doors were sealed and new doors in a separate vestibule were installed. One or two of those may have been painted in the “Candy’ colour scheme.



But the cars as modelled by SDS effectively ended their service in Indian Red around 1975 and would not have appeared in “Candy” in the form modelled.

Given the amazing variation in EHO vans of all types, it would be good to check photos before renumbering one of the SDS vans, to ensure that the car selected actually looked like the model.



I’m pleased they are including the older large lookout. I have clear recollections of seeing such vans, probably on Sunday Afternoons as Mail trains were being made up in Central.



These vans will make a good addition to the mail vans, side door cars and ACX composite sleeping cars available from Austrains.
  ed31880 Train Controller

Not sure if it has already been mentioned in the thread or how long they have been available, there are new packs of the sold out versions FQX wagons available on the web site.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Not sure if it has already been mentioned in the thread or how long they have been available, there are new packs of the sold out versions FQX wagons available on the web site.
ed31880

Gosh
Another 4 packs to buy Sad However that will probably give me enough vehicles to carry all those containers I bought 5 years ago Very Happy
Cheers
Rod
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Speaking of containers, the LRC/SRC/QRC order form is at http://sdsmodels.com.au/lrcsrc.pdf
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Speaking of containers, the LRC/SRC/QRC order form is at http://sdsmodels.com.au/lrcsrc.pdf
Poath Junction


Already got a pack of LRC1 at Casula Hobbies last Thursday.

Very nice.

Paul
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

Wonder if these will have the 'legs' to make it to Liverpool or should we order up?
  ANDL36Y Train Controller

Not sure if it has already been mentioned in the thread or how long they have been available, there are new packs of the sold out versions FQX wagons available on the web site.
ed31880


SDS indicated to me that these would be the corrected models, so only the two chain/toolboxes for the SA wagons... yippee!

Where's my credit card....

Cheers!
  gy Junior Train Controller

I am trying to find information on the LPG tanks when they were on the NSWGR register. Basically I believe they were built at Comeng, Granville in 1965/7 and transferred to VR in 1974 and off their register by 1984.
Any information is a bonus regards loading points, unloading points and what happened to the tanks when they left Victoria.
There are web sites with the plans but now I need them I cannot find any outline drawings when under the care of the NSWGR. I do have access to the VR outline drawings.
Such is the case when you do not bookmark sites when you find them?
Regards PTE.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

Web update, various goodies including these samples
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
An unannounced model was found in the SDS display case at todays Caulfield exhibition - the NSW NRY wagon in HO rtr.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


The VR 38' tank wagons will come in lots of colours. Scanned from a flyer I picked up at Caulfield exhibition.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Other side of the flyer showing samples of the flour wagon liveries.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
NRY & Bitumen tank car order forms online - http://sdsmodels.com.au/xorder.htm
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Pre production sample of the JCW/NQJW 80' container flat wagon, ETA Feb. - https://www.facebook.com/SdsModels
  The railway dog Junior Train Controller

Is there any news about the SHG brakevan family  I've missed?
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Silver City Comet just announced on their Facebook page...

Paul
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

Silver City Comet just announced on their Facebook page...

Paul
FirstStopCentral

Hell Yeah!!!
This is a big surprise. I guess we won't be seeing this from Eureka!
I'm in - silver and candy!!!!
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

... also are they doing the 81 class after all their continual posting of 81 class images every month??
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Maybe they are going to release a colour picture book about the 81 Class...

Paul
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
Silver City Comet just announced on their Facebook page...

Paul
FirstStopCentral



Well that's then another thing Eureka does not have to worry about......

Regards

Catchpoint
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

I would not be surprised if we see maybe a 400 class rail motor or CP38!!
I imagine they share a similar wheel base to the Comets DP power cars.... Fingers crossed.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

I would not be surprised if we see maybe a 400 class rail motor or CP38!!
I imagine they share a similar wheel base to the Comets DP power cars.... Fingers crossed.
5711


They don't!

Different wheelbase and different spacing on bogie.

Paul

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