XPT Derailment

 
  Factory_Fill Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne VIC
XPT seems to have derailed on new RRL line in Melbourne.

Can see two cars off from my office on La Trobe street.

Line only opened this morning.

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  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Doh!
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Not a great start for the RRL flyover....
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
No Injuries have been reported, which is a good thing

Kind Regards
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

The mop up of this will be interesting, especially given that this month there is (meant to be) the staged introduction of Ballarat and Bendigo trains on to the RRL....
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Is this the first ever run of a Train on the RRL in Victoria?

Kind Regards
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
In the best traditions of Government, nobody will be responsible.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Story via the ABC. The train was apparently heading to Sydney and has derailed over the new junction with the RRL lines on the Dynon side of the flyover. Not a great look on new tracks.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-11/train-derails-at-north-melbourne-en-route-to-sydney/5589540?&section=news
  dean65 Locomotive Driver

Location: Ballarat
Story via the ABC. The train was apparently heading to Sydney and has derailed over the new junction with the RRL lines on the Dynon side of the flyover. Not a great look on new tracks.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-11/train-derails-at-north-melbourne-en-route-to-sydney/5589540?&section=news
jdekorte

Train derails at North Melbourne en route to Sydney
Updated 1 hour 2 minutes ago
[color=#310099][img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5589562-3x2-700x467.jpg[/img][/color][color=#310099][b][color=#000000][size=2]PHOTO:[/size][/color][/b] Passengers from the Sydney-bound CountryLink service are being transferred onto buses.[color=#666666][size=2](774 ABC Melbourne: Mick James)[/size][/color][/color]
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An interstate passenger train has derailed in Melbourne.
[color=#310099][img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5589702-3x2-340x227.jpg[/img][/color][color=#310099][b][color=#000000][size=2]PHOTO:[/size][/color][/b] Passengers had to get off the derailed train on the tracks near North Melbourne station.[color=#666666][size=2](ABC News)[/size][/color][/color]

Two carriages of the Melbourne-to-Sydney CountryLink service came off the tracks between Southern Cross and North Melbourne stations, in the inner city.
There are no reports of any injuries.
Passengers are being transferred to buses.
V/Line said its Southern Cross to Albury rail service had been cancelled as a result and a coach would replace the service.
Melbourne's rail operator Metro said none of its services were affected.
Topics: [color=#619100]rail[/color], [color=#619100]rail-transport[/color],[color=#619100]north-melbourne-3051[/color], [color=#619100]sydney-2000[/color]
First posted 1 hour 45 minutes ago
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Is this the first ever run of a Train on the RRL in Victoria?

Kind Regards
lsrailfan

Not really. V/Line, as evident by this picture on VicSig, were doing driver training through that location the other day.

http://www.vicsig.net/photo/18414
  TedHanson Junior Train Controller

But first passenger service?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Reported elsewhere that the rear couple of cars tried to take the BG line off the viaduct, and (obviously) didn't get very far.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
But first passenger service?
TedHanson

Again not really as much of that track was installed late last year...?  The RRL lines branch off to the right after leaving the flyover - tracks over the flyover are dual gauge.  The XPT would have been on the standard gauge tracks.  The XPT & the Overland have been using those flyover tracks for months.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


At least two coaches off.  Could this be a rail issue or a bogie issue?
  Campaspe 2 Locomotive Driver

Does anyone know the numbers of the XP locos and carriages involved?

I think the trailing carriage is XAM 2176.

Regards

Campaspe
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Today was the first day of resumed XPT operation into Southern Cross so looks a bit sus . It appears that the  rear cars and locomotive came off at the Dynon side where the  dual gauge spits to the left towards Dynon and the bg takes off to the right towards  Spion Kop Junction .  At that point on the dg line nearest to Docklands there is a fixed gauge splitter that takes the Down sg line to the right into the sg single line towards  Sims St  Junction .  So strange that the leading loco and cars got through the gauge splitter OK but rear cars came off .
Would appear that track damage would be confined to the gauge splitter on one track,  and possibly the bg turnout from the Down dg line towards  Spion Kop  Junction RRL .

This could well and truly  stuff up the intended access from 15/07 by VLP  Geelong, Ballarat & Bendigo trains into Southern Cross using the dg Nth Melbourne flyover.  Up bg VLP should be OK to access Sthn Cross via Nth Melbourne flyover, but if there is damage to the bg turnout from the Down dg line towards Spion Kop Junction then Down bg via Nth Melbourne flyover may be delayed till those points are replaced.

One can see and appreciate why the RRL is fitted with virtually continuous check rails through  Dudley St and over the flyover and junctions towards Spion Kop .

The dual gauge junctions at  both the Dynon and  Dudley St ends of the Nth Melbourne flyover will become real service stoppers if and when derailments occur at these points in future .  Such derailments are total stoppers for sg and disruptive for bg which can still access Sthn Cross from the Through, Main and East Suburban lines at Franklin St .  BUT Metro would be most annoyed .
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

SG line over the flyover will be out of action all day tomorrow (Saturday) according to the Vline website:
http://www.vline.com.au/home/news/carousel/575368583/Article.aspx
  dean65 Locomotive Driver

Location: Ballarat
SG line over the flyover will be out of action all day tomorrow (Saturday) according to the Vline website:
http://www.vline.com.au/home/news/carousel/575368583/Article.aspx
Carnot

Disruption to Albury line servicesDue to the derailment of a Sydney-bound XPT train, the following Albury services will be altered to run as coaches:
Friday 11 July
From Albury

17:20 will operate as a train to Broadmeadows then a coach to Melbourne.

From Southern Cross Station

18:01 will operate as coach to Broadmeadows then a train to Albury

Saturday 12 July

From Albury

06:35 will operate as a train to Broadmeadows then a coach to Melbourne.
12:45 will operate as coach to Melbourne.
17:20 will operate as a train to Broadmeadows then a coach to Melbourne.


From Southern Cross Station

07:10 will operate as coach to Broadmeadows then a train to Albury.
12:00 will operate as a coach to Albury.
18:01 will operate as coach to Broadmeadows then a train to Albury.


Please allow an extra 60 minutes for your journey.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Today was the first day of resumed XPT operation into Southern Cross so looks a bit sus . It appears that the rear cars and locomotive came off at the Dynon side where the dual gauge spits to the left towards Dynon and the bg takes off to the right towards Spion Kop Junction .  
kuldalai

An XPT derailing on the point of gauge separation reminds me of 12/12/2010 when NT32 derailed towards platform 3 QR track at South Brisbane. This was the point of separation of standard gauge and 3ft6in southbound. In this case it was the lead locomotive and the first passenger carriage that derailed.
  blowfish Junior Train Controller

How do they facilitate services beginning at Broadmeadows? Is it push-pull? It's only single track there from what I understand.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
How do they facilitate services beginning at Broadmeadows? Is it push-pull? It's only single track there from what I understand.
blowfish

I think they run around at Essendon.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The word from NSWTrainLink

Regional services - CLK624 the 08:30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT service alteration.
At around 8.35am today, two carriages on the Melbourne to Sydney XPT service partially derailed 3km north of Southern Cross Station, Melbourne with all carriages upright. Replacement coach services departed Melbourne Southern Cross Station at 12:05 a delay of up to 200 minutes will be experienced. Customers from locations Benalla to Moss Vale will be placed on supplementary coaches service running close to time.

The following alteration to XPT services has been made.

Friday 11 July, Saturday 12 July and Sunday 13 July 2014

CLK623 the 07:32 Sydney to Melbourne and CLK621the 20:32 Sydney to Melbourne XPT services will terminate at Albury and replaced with a road coach service from Albury to Melbourne.

CLK622 the 19:50 Melbourne to Sydney XPT will be replaced with a road coach service from Melbourne to Albury. The XPT will commence from Albury and operate to Sydney.

Saturday 12 July, Sunday 13 July and Monday 14 July 2014

CLK624 the 08:30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT will be replaced with a road coach service from Melbourne to Albury. The XPT will commence from Albury and operate to Sydney.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
I think they run around at Essendon.
railblogger

No the Albury train is Standard Guage. Do they run the train around at Tottenham or Dynon?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
No the Albury train is Standard Guage. Do they run the train around at Tottenham or Dynon?
jdekorte


Craigieburn?
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
No the Albury train is Standard Guage. Do they run the train around at Tottenham or Dynon?
jdekorte

Whoops forgot about that.
  gomer Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Again not really as much of that track was installed late last year...? The RRL lines branch off to the right after leaving the flyover - tracks over the flyover are dual gauge. The XPT would have been on the standard gauge tracks. The XPT & the Overland have been using those flyover tracks for months.
jdekorte

Not true , XPT,Overland & Albury services have been using the now Up line only over the flyover as it was bi-directional. The 0710 Albury was the first Dn Pass to use the down dual gauge track with the XPT next although light engines have been running over it.

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